Biden and Buttigieg Say You Can Keep Your Health-Care Plan. They’re Lying — Just Like Obama

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...l&utm_source=Newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

    Just like Obama’s false promise 10 years ago, the Biden-Buttigieg promise that you can keep your plan is a lie. As Seema Verma, head of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, has explained, “the public option is a Trojan horse with single-payer hiding inside.” Verma points out that private insurance pays hospitals 75 percent more than Medicare for the same services. In 2017, for example, Medicare underpaid hospitals by $54 billion. They make up the lost revenue by charging private insurers more — which means private plans are essentially subsidizing Medicare for seniors.

    But if tens of millions of Americans under 65 sign up for a public option, the population requiring subsidies will expand dramatically, while the source of private revenue will dry up. To stay afloat, doctors and hospitals will have to charge even higher prices to private insurers, which in turn will force insurers to raise prices and reduce services — making it harder for them to compete with the government for customers. A death spiral for private insurance will ensue. The higher private insurance premiums go, the more people will be pushed into the public option — until eventually the private option all but disappears.


    In other words, the end result of Medicare-for-all and “Medicare for All Who Want It” is exactly the same: the elimination of private insurance.

    A good article, read all of it.

    Here's the thing, though. Private health insurance costs have been skyrocketing for decades and decades. Health insurance costs are at record highs.

    So private health insurance is going to fail eventually, no matter what.

    Private health insurance could be saved, but the Republican party has made it very clear they have no intention of doing so.

    Thus the real issue is deciding just how quickly or how slowly to let private insurance die.

    It's too bad the Republican party has sold us all down the river to the Democrats and their socialized medicine plan.
     
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    Holy cow! g5000 comes thru with a good article showing how the democrats want to screw us over for healthcare. Thanks!

    So which democrat do you support, or do you hold your nose and vote for Trump?
     
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    Healthcare was better before Obamacare. Obamacare took away healthcare and gave us $10,000 deductibles, so we pay premiums for nothing.
    The "pre-existing conditions" requirement means that the super expensive care needs to be given.
    Some things don't make sense, like the rising cost of insulin.

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    You can either get a job that has healthcare or get on the ACA. Health ins was a disaster before the ACA.
     
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    I do agree, the Democrats should be more honest about keeping your doctor or not. A change in insurance can change that. However, you're never guaranteed a specific doctor regardless of what insurance you have. Providers are added and removed from insurance policies all the time. We have an awful system that is entrenched and there will be pain points to move forward.

    The system we have now, you're not guaranteed health insurance at all.
     
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    I have always opposed Obamacare and single-payer, dumbass.

    I will not be voting for any Democrat, including Trump.
     
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    The Republican party very much wants you to be hostage to your employer for your survival.
     
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    Private corporate health insurance for profit is illegal in advanced post-industrial civilized societies that invest in themselves as opposed to investing in their oligarchs. "Neither" of our donor class funded political parties is going to free the people from being cucked to an employer for access to american hellthcare.

    We the people will either force them to or we won't.
     
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    Single payer. Dems ain't showing me much either. Took Dick Gephardt less than 30 days to set up a lobbying firm against single payer once he'd left "public" life.
     
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