Biden and Buttigieg Say You Can Keep Your Health-Care Plan. They’re Lying — Just Like Obama

[007]

Health insurance costs at record highs, coverage erodes

Trump and the GOP have utterly failed to do anything to stop private insurance from going under.

Ever heard of the "RESISTANCE?"

There's your answer why NOTHING has gotten done. The democrats have been SEETHING with HATRED ever since election night, and instead of getting ANYTHING done, they have focused ALL their time and energy on GETTING RID OF TRUMP, IMPEACHMENT, the RESISTANCE.

THAT is why NOTHING has gotten done. It isn't Trump OR the GOP's fault. The president is TRYING to work on drug prices, trade, the border crisis, etc, but he runs into a BRICK WALL every time it comes to DEMOCRATS. ANYTHING that is GOOD for America, is BAD for DEMOCRATS. They WILL NOT give the president ANYTHING that he could consider a WIN, so, that means they ALSO, WON'T GIVE, the AMERICANS PEOPLE a WIN either!

That's hilarious!

The Republicans have had TEN YEARS to come up with a replacement for Obamacare.

It is positively fucking amazing you rubes have STILL not figured out you've been hoaxed.

You think the RESISTANCE is HILARIOUS? Well that speaks VOLUMES about you.

You poor little BRAIN DEAD dweeb.

Again, the Republican party has had TEN YEARS to come up with a replacement for Obamacare.

It is weird watching a tard not figure out he's been hoaxed all this time.

Really weird.

Again, you IGNORE the TEN TON ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM, the RESISTANCE.

I can only surmise you're doing so because you KNOW DAMN WELL I'M RIGHT.

So whatever... you just keep spewing your dumbass garbage and pretend your RADICAL DEMOCRAT RESISTANCE isn't playing ANY PART in NOTHING GETTING DONE.

You're just another GARDEN VARIETY, TWO FACED, HYPOCRITICAL DEMOCRAT HACK.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

You can either get a job that has healthcare or get on the ACA. Health ins was a disaster before the ACA.

It was exponentially better before obamacare screwed it up.

 

[g5000]

Health insurance costs at record highs, coverage erodes

Trump and the GOP have utterly failed to do anything to stop private insurance from going under.

Ever heard of the "RESISTANCE?"

There's your answer why NOTHING has gotten done. The democrats have been SEETHING with HATRED ever since election night, and instead of getting ANYTHING done, they have focused ALL their time and energy on GETTING RID OF TRUMP, IMPEACHMENT, the RESISTANCE.

THAT is why NOTHING has gotten done. It isn't Trump OR the GOP's fault. The president is TRYING to work on drug prices, trade, the border crisis, etc, but he runs into a BRICK WALL every time it comes to DEMOCRATS. ANYTHING that is GOOD for America, is BAD for DEMOCRATS. They WILL NOT give the president ANYTHING that he could consider a WIN, so, that means they ALSO, WON'T GIVE, the AMERICANS PEOPLE a WIN either!

That's hilarious!

The Republicans have had TEN YEARS to come up with a replacement for Obamacare.

It is positively fucking amazing you rubes have STILL not figured out you've been hoaxed.

You think the RESISTANCE is HILARIOUS? Well that speaks VOLUMES about you.

You poor little BRAIN DEAD dweeb.

Again, the Republican party has had TEN YEARS to come up with a replacement for Obamacare.

It is weird watching a tard not figure out he's been hoaxed all this time.

Really weird.

Again, you IGNORE the TEN TON ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM, the RESISTANCE.

I can only surmise you're doing so because you KNOW DAMN WELL I'M RIGHT.

So whatever... you just keep spewing your dumbass garbage and pretend your RADICAL DEMOCRAT RESISTANCE isn't playing ANY PART in NOTHING GETTING DONE.

You're just another GARDEN VARIETY, TWO FACED, HYPOCRITICAL DEMOCRAT HACK.

You are a stunning display of cuckholdery.

 

[g5000]

You can either get a job that has healthcare or get on the ACA. Health ins was a disaster before the ACA.

It was exponentially better before obamacare screwed it up.

You are seriously deluded.

 

[g5000]

007

NOVEMBER 2014:

Yea, here a list of bills left on Reid's desk ...54 House bills to repeal the Affordable Care Act, and 191 House bills to eviscerate environmental protection.

It is the GOP job bill...a glut of jobs for undertakers, radiation technicians , grave diggers and cemeteries.

Then the Republicans got total control of the House, the Senate, and the White House, and NOT ONE repeal was passed after that.

Yet the tards have STILL not figured out they have been hoaxed for TEN YEARS now.

What a profound display of cuckholdery!

 

[g5000]

The only real question is when single-payer will finally become the law of the land. Since the cucks are allowing it to happen, it is just a matter of time.

 

[22lcidw]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...l&utm_source=Newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

Just like Obama’s false promise 10 years ago, the Biden-Buttigieg promise that you can keep your plan is a lie. As Seema Verma, head of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, has explained, “the public option is a Trojan horse with single-payer hiding inside.” Verma points out that private insurance pays hospitals 75 percent more than Medicare for the same services. In 2017, for example, Medicare underpaid hospitals by $54 billion. They make up the lost revenue by charging private insurers more — which means private plans are essentially subsidizing Medicare for seniors.

But if tens of millions of Americans under 65 sign up for a public option, the population requiring subsidies will expand dramatically, while the source of private revenue will dry up. To stay afloat, doctors and hospitals will have to charge even higher prices to private insurers, which in turn will force insurers to raise prices and reduce services — making it harder for them to compete with the government for customers. A death spiral for private insurance will ensue. The higher private insurance premiums go, the more people will be pushed into the public option — until eventually the private option all but disappears.

In other words, the end result of Medicare-for-all and “Medicare for All Who Want It” is exactly the same: the elimination of private insurance.

A good article, read all of it.

Here's the thing, though. Private health insurance costs have been skyrocketing for decades and decades. Health insurance costs are at record highs.

So private health insurance is going to fail eventually, no matter what.

Private health insurance could be saved, but the Republican party has made it very clear they have no intention of doing so.

Thus the real issue is deciding just how quickly or how slowly to let private insurance die.

It's too bad the Republican party has sold us all down the river to the Democrats and their socialized medicine plan.

You are not paying attention. Whatever medical system we go to we are the sickest people in the world. We are the unhealthiest people in the world in a first world economy. The real costs one way or the other are going up big time every year. In a decade or so there will be near 100 million people on social security and medicare. That alone is going to break the bank. The younger people that goes to the hospital are not the healthiest either for many reasons. I am telling you. At some point we will have healthcare limits.

 

[g5000]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...l&utm_source=Newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

Just like Obama’s false promise 10 years ago, the Biden-Buttigieg promise that you can keep your plan is a lie. As Seema Verma, head of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, has explained, “the public option is a Trojan horse with single-payer hiding inside.” Verma points out that private insurance pays hospitals 75 percent more than Medicare for the same services. In 2017, for example, Medicare underpaid hospitals by $54 billion. They make up the lost revenue by charging private insurers more — which means private plans are essentially subsidizing Medicare for seniors.

But if tens of millions of Americans under 65 sign up for a public option, the population requiring subsidies will expand dramatically, while the source of private revenue will dry up. To stay afloat, doctors and hospitals will have to charge even higher prices to private insurers, which in turn will force insurers to raise prices and reduce services — making it harder for them to compete with the government for customers. A death spiral for private insurance will ensue. The higher private insurance premiums go, the more people will be pushed into the public option — until eventually the private option all but disappears.

In other words, the end result of Medicare-for-all and “Medicare for All Who Want It” is exactly the same: the elimination of private insurance.

A good article, read all of it.

Here's the thing, though. Private health insurance costs have been skyrocketing for decades and decades. Health insurance costs are at record highs.

So private health insurance is going to fail eventually, no matter what.

Private health insurance could be saved, but the Republican party has made it very clear they have no intention of doing so.

Thus the real issue is deciding just how quickly or how slowly to let private insurance die.

It's too bad the Republican party has sold us all down the river to the Democrats and their socialized medicine plan.

You are not paying attention. Whatever medical system we go to we are the sickest people in the world. We are the unhealthiest people in the world in a first world economy. The real costs one way or the other are going up big time every year. In a decade or so there will be near 100 million people on social security and medicare. That alone is going to break the bank. The younger people that goes to the hospital are not the healthiest either for many reasons. I am telling you. At some point we will have healthcare limits.

I've said before that we are victims of our own prosperity. We overeat, overwork, and under-exercise. Americans have become sedentary and complacent. Fat, dumb, and happy. Couch potatoes.

That's why America elected a fat, dumb, happy clown.

 

[NightFox]

You can either get a job that has healthcare or get on the ACA. Health ins was a disaster before the ACA.

It was exponentially better before obamacare screwed it up.

You are seriously deluded.

You're not going to "fix" health care spending by re-arranging the health insurance business, unless of course you can manage to create a system of insurance that includes a way to magically fix the American diet & exercise regime which are the primary drivers for CHRONIC DISEASE.

Excerpt:
An Empirical Study of Chronic Diseases in the United States: A Visual Analytics Approach to Public Health
"A chronic condition “is a physical or mental health condition that lasts more than one year and causes functional restrictions or requires ongoing monitoring or treatment” . Chronic diseases are among the most prevalent and costly health conditions in the United States. Nearly half (approximately 45%, or 133 million) of all Americans suffer from at least one chronic disease, and the number is growing.

Chronic diseases—including, cancer, diabetes, hypertension, stroke, heart disease, respiratory diseases, arthritis, obesity, and oral diseases—can lead to hospitalization, long-term disability, reduced quality of life, and death. In fact, persistent conditions are the nation’s leading cause of death and disability."

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"According to the Centers for Disease Control, in the U.S. alone, chronic diseases account for nearly 75 percent of aggregate healthcare spending, or an estimated $5300 per person annually. In terms of public insurance, treatment of chronic diseases comprises an even larger proportion of spending: 96 cents per dollar for Medicare and 83 cents per dollar for Medicaid. Thus, the understanding, management, and prevention of chronic diseases are important objectives if, as a society, we are to provide better quality healthcare to citizens and improve their overall quality of life."

Good old SUPPLY AND DEMAND at work.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

You can either get a job that has healthcare or get on the ACA. Health ins was a disaster before the ACA.

It was exponentially better before obamacare screwed it up.

You are seriously deluded.

Nope, it was exponentially better before Obamacare. You're delusional as usual.

 

[Lesh]

You can either get a job that has healthcare or get on the ACA. Health ins was a disaster before the ACA.

I kept my doctor. No one I know lost their doctor because of the ACA

 

[Terri4Trump]

Just like Obama’s false promise 10 years ago, the Biden-Buttigieg promise that you can keep your plan is a lie.........

Being a pathological liar is a prerequisite to being a Democrat

 

[Brain357]

Just like Obama’s false promise 10 years ago, the Biden-Buttigieg promise that you can keep your plan is a lie.........

Being a pathological liar is a prerequisite to being a Democrat

I think you mean politician.

 

[Brain357]

You can either get a job that has healthcare or get on the ACA. Health ins was a disaster before the ACA.

It was exponentially better before obamacare screwed it up.

You are seriously deluded.

Nope, it was exponentially better before Obamacare. You're delusional as usual.

Another republican denying reality. Shocking. We got Obamacare because the cost of healthcare was skyrocketing. Didn't fix the problem, but that's why we got it.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...l&utm_source=Newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

Just like Obama’s false promise 10 years ago, the Biden-Buttigieg promise that you can keep your plan is a lie. As Seema Verma, head of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, has explained, “the public option is a Trojan horse with single-payer hiding inside.” Verma points out that private insurance pays hospitals 75 percent more than Medicare for the same services. In 2017, for example, Medicare underpaid hospitals by $54 billion. They make up the lost revenue by charging private insurers more — which means private plans are essentially subsidizing Medicare for seniors.

But if tens of millions of Americans under 65 sign up for a public option, the population requiring subsidies will expand dramatically, while the source of private revenue will dry up. To stay afloat, doctors and hospitals will have to charge even higher prices to private insurers, which in turn will force insurers to raise prices and reduce services — making it harder for them to compete with the government for customers. A death spiral for private insurance will ensue. The higher private insurance premiums go, the more people will be pushed into the public option — until eventually the private option all but disappears.

In other words, the end result of Medicare-for-all and “Medicare for All Who Want It” is exactly the same: the elimination of private insurance.

A good article, read all of it.

Here's the thing, though. Private health insurance costs have been skyrocketing for decades and decades. Health insurance costs are at record highs.

So private health insurance is going to fail eventually, no matter what.

Private health insurance could be saved, but the Republican party has made it very clear they have no intention of doing so.

Thus the real issue is deciding just how quickly or how slowly to let private insurance die.

It's too bad the Republican party has sold us all down the river to the Democrats and their socialized medicine plan.

Amazing how expensive it is to provide free healthcare for 22,000,000 Illegals

 

[Seawytch]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...l&utm_source=Newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

Just like Obama’s false promise 10 years ago, the Biden-Buttigieg promise that you can keep your plan is a lie. As Seema Verma, head of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, has explained, “the public option is a Trojan horse with single-payer hiding inside.” Verma points out that private insurance pays hospitals 75 percent more than Medicare for the same services. In 2017, for example, Medicare underpaid hospitals by $54 billion. They make up the lost revenue by charging private insurers more — which means private plans are essentially subsidizing Medicare for seniors.

But if tens of millions of Americans under 65 sign up for a public option, the population requiring subsidies will expand dramatically, while the source of private revenue will dry up. To stay afloat, doctors and hospitals will have to charge even higher prices to private insurers, which in turn will force insurers to raise prices and reduce services — making it harder for them to compete with the government for customers. A death spiral for private insurance will ensue. The higher private insurance premiums go, the more people will be pushed into the public option — until eventually the private option all but disappears.

In other words, the end result of Medicare-for-all and “Medicare for All Who Want It” is exactly the same: the elimination of private insurance.

A good article, read all of it.

Here's the thing, though. Private health insurance costs have been skyrocketing for decades and decades. Health insurance costs are at record highs.

So private health insurance is going to fail eventually, no matter what.

Private health insurance could be saved, but the Republican party has made it very clear they have no intention of doing so.

Thus the real issue is deciding just how quickly or how slowly to let private insurance die.

It's too bad the Republican party has sold us all down the river to the Democrats and their socialized medicine plan.

I guess to that all I can say is "good". Some plans don't deserve to be sold. They rob people and don't cover diddly.

 

[Penelope]

Democrats can't be honest or they would never win an election....

So all you can remember one tiny misstatement from Obama, I bet you can't remember all the daily lies from Tramp!!

Never get attached to your doctor, they die, move, or change networks, even retire.

 

[LoneLaugher]

g5000, is your attachment to the for profit health care system that we have just ideological?

Have you spent any time investigating the single payer systems in other nations? Better yet, have you ever experienced one?

 

[Aldo Raine]

Health insurance costs at record highs, coverage erodes

Trump and the GOP have utterly failed to do anything to stop private insurance from going under.

It's just a matter of time before the country is forced into single-payer.

Healthcare was better before Obamacare. Obamacare took away healthcare and gave us $10,000 deductibles, so we pay premiums for nothing.
The "pre-existing conditions" requirement means that the super expensive care needs to be given.
Some things don't make sense, like the rising cost of insulin.

That's bullshit, I have no deductible and $15 copays. That is it, try lying some more.

 

[bullwinkle]

Just like Obama’s false promise 10 years ago, the Biden-Buttigieg promise that you can keep your plan is a lie.

I don't think Obama ever said you can keep your plan if you choose. He said you can keep your doc, not your plan. It was the docs who chose to opt out. The whole purpose of the ACA was to insure Americans with a plan better than the el cheapo plans that covered almost nothing and ACA also banned the practice of denying coverage if you get real sick with pre-existing illness.