BHO going after private citizens for

[Immanuel]

Supporting Romney
This bunch really scares me. Using the strength that comes with the office, something GWB would have NEVER done

Here's what happens when the president of the United States publicly targets a private citizen for the crime of supporting his opponent.

Frank VanderSloot is the CEO of Melaleuca Inc. The 63-year-old has run that wellness-products company for 26 years out of tiny Idaho Falls, Idaho. Last August, Mr. VanderSloot gave $1 million to Restore Our Future, the Super PAC that supports Mitt Romney.

Three weeks ago, an Obama campaign website, "Keeping GOP Honest," took the extraordinary step of publicly naming and assailing eight private citizens backing Mr. Romney. Titled "Behind the curtain: a brief history of Romney's donors," the post accused the eight of being "wealthy individuals with less-than-reputable records." Mr. VanderSloot was one of the eight, smeared particularly as being "litigious, combative and a bitter foe of the gay rights movement."

Libs why do you support this guy?
Strassel: Trolling for Dirt on the President's List - WSJ.com

With no job creation
Spending to much for the public to support and 2 years wasted when we needed economic focus and not the first step towards the govt taking over totally the health care system
And now attacking American citizens whose only crime is they disagree with him. That is not good

Should I get my violin out now, or should I wait a few? Poor baby, Mr. VanderSloot doesn't like being outed for his major contribution? Awe, now isn't that a shame?

If a small donation is made to a candidate, I have no issue with it, and I would hope that most people could expect to have their names kept private under such circumstances. But when you decide to donate hundreds of thousands or millions to a Super Pac in an effort to sway the outcome of an election you damn well better believe you're going to be outed. I don't care which side you're on, I hate these Super Pacs and those who contribute to them. At no time has it been more obvious that certain individuals are trying to buy an election than when they personally donate massive sums of money to a Super Pac.

So then presumably you have the same problem with Bill Maher, Jeffrey Katzenberg and the SEIU, all million dollar donors to Obama's Super Pac.

Look, the problem with the President's official campaign naming these donors and then going on to describe their "less than reputable records" is the fact that as a sitting president he does have the power to impact both their personal and business lives in a way that a challenger does not. I think it's fine that large donors are "outed", but the President should not put himself in the position that there is an appearance that his enemies will pay the price for their constitutionally-protected free speech rights.

Actually, the one issue I have with this is can the ad be considered slander.

I mean if you are going to make the statement that these people are all, "litigious, combative and a bitter foe of the gay rights movement", you damned well better be able to prove it, or you have, in fact, committed slander.

Does the fact that this is on the political campaign trail exempt him from slander laws? I don't think it does or at least it shouldn't.

Immie

 

[theDoctorisIn]

damn what do you think this damn thread is about?

This thread is about butthurt conservatives whining about Obama being mean to Romney donors, as far as I can tell.

Part of it is definitely an uninformed liberal hack.

Nothing says you're winning an argument than going for cheap personal attacks!

 

[saveliberty]

Prove that his administration has launched any investigations based on political views.

Already gave you an example and link a few posts back.

No, you linked to a blog that mentioned Americans for Prosperity was being investigated.

That's not "evidence" that Obama's administration has anything to do with it.

...and who does the FBI director report to?

Really, your just too easy.

 

[saveliberty]

This thread is about butthurt conservatives whining about Obama being mean to Romney donors, as far as I can tell.

Part of it is definitely an uninformed liberal hack.

Nothing says you're winning an argument than going for cheap personal attacks!

You have made at least three before I started.

 

[WillowTree]

He doesn't think calling people bitches is a personal attack.. that's libtardedness for ya.

 

[The T]

This thread is about butthurt conservatives whining about Obama being mean to Romney donors, as far as I can tell.

NO asswipe. It's about Obama the consummate politician going after private citizens for whom they support.

Sure. That, and you guys whining like bitches about it.

Pointing out the obvious is whining now? Are YOU one of those that is redefing words? Rewriting history?

Of course you are...

*Fuckwad*

 

[theDoctorisIn]

NO asswipe. It's about Obama the consummate politician going after private citizens for whom they support.

Sure. That, and you guys whining like bitches about it.

Pointing out the obvious is whining now? Are YOU one of those that is redefing words? Rewriting history?

Of course you are...

*Fuckwad*

"pointing out the obvious" can certainly be considered whining, particularly when it's such a habit of the right to demonize left wing donors.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Already gave you an example and link a few posts back.

No, you linked to a blog that mentioned Americans for Prosperity was being investigated.

That's not "evidence" that Obama's administration has anything to do with it.

...and who does the FBI director report to?

Really, your just too easy.

Do you think that everything the FBI investigates is on direct orders from the president?

 

[saveliberty]

Sure. That, and you guys whining like bitches about it.

Pointing out the obvious is whining now? Are YOU one of those that is redefing words? Rewriting history?

Of course you are...

*Fuckwad*

"pointing out the obvious" can certainly be considered whining, particularly when it's such a habit of the right to demonize left wing donors.

So you weren't trolling, you were whining. Got it.

 

[The T]

Pointing out the obvious is whining now? Are YOU one of those that is redefing words? Rewriting history?

Of course you are...

*Fuckwad*

"pointing out the obvious" can certainly be considered whining, particularly when it's such a habit of the right to demonize left wing donors.

So you weren't trolling, you were whining. Got it.

Precisely.

 

[saveliberty]

No, you linked to a blog that mentioned Americans for Prosperity was being investigated.

That's not "evidence" that Obama's administration has anything to do with it.

...and who does the FBI director report to?

Really, your just too easy.

Do you think that everything the FBI investigates is on direct orders from the president?

You're moving the goalposts. The FBI is part of the adminstration.

 

[The T]

Sure. That, and you guys whining like bitches about it.

Pointing out the obvious is whining now? Are YOU one of those that is redefing words? Rewriting history?

Of course you are...

*Fuckwad*

"pointing out the obvious" can certainly be considered whining, particularly when it's such a habit of the right to demonize left wing donors.

And when Romneys are demonizing for doing nothing other than donatining...Microscope up the poopchute by Obama and the LEFT...

Sorry...YOU remain a whiner.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Pointing out the obvious is whining now? Are YOU one of those that is redefing words? Rewriting history?

Of course you are...

*Fuckwad*

"pointing out the obvious" can certainly be considered whining, particularly when it's such a habit of the right to demonize left wing donors.

And when Romneys are demonizing for doing nothing other than donatining...Microscope up the poopchute by Obama and the LEFT...

Sorry...YOU remain a whiner.

Really? What you say that I'm "whining" about?

 

[The T]

"pointing out the obvious" can certainly be considered whining, particularly when it's such a habit of the right to demonize left wing donors.

And when Romneys are demonizing for doing nothing other than donatining...Microscope up the poopchute by Obama and the LEFT...

Sorry...YOU remain a whiner.

Really? What you say that I'm "whining" about?

And YOu are a Moderator? Really?

The staff needs to choose more carefully...

 

[theDoctorisIn]

...and who does the FBI director report to?

Really, your just too easy.

Do you think that everything the FBI investigates is on direct orders from the president?

You're moving the goalposts. The FBI is part of the adminstration.

Whether or not the FBI is part of "the administration" is a matter of semantics.

I'm still waiting for you prove that the FBI investigation is based on politics.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

And when Romneys are demonizing for doing nothing other than donatining...Microscope up the poopchute by Obama and the LEFT...

Sorry...YOU remain a whiner.

Really? What you say that I'm "whining" about?

And YOu are a Moderator? Really?

The staff needs to choose more carefully...

Jealous, Tommy?

 

[saveliberty]

"pointing out the obvious" can certainly be considered whining, particularly when it's such a habit of the right to demonize left wing donors.

And when Romneys are demonizing for doing nothing other than donatining...Microscope up the poopchute by Obama and the LEFT...

Sorry...YOU remain a whiner.

Really? What you say that I'm "whining" about?

Incomplete sentences makes it hard to reply. Looks like your best defense of the day though.

 

[Annie]

What "strength that comes with the office" did Obama abuse here?

Legally being Nixonian is not a plus.

Posting publicly available information to take shots at the other candidate on some campaign blog is "Nixonian"?

I was under the impression you were old enough that your lifetime overlapped with the Nixon presidency. But I can't imagine that's true of anyone who thinks Nixon's abuses of power involved or equated to blogging or tweeting public information.

Making lists certainly fits. Making it clear that donors were noticed, implied threat of use of powers. IRS immediately comes to mind.

 

[The T]

Legally being Nixonian is not a plus.

Posting publicly available information to take shots at the other candidate on some campaign blog is "Nixonian"?

I was under the impression you were old enough that your lifetime overlapped with the Nixon presidency. But I can't imagine that's true of anyone who thinks Nixon's abuses of power involved or equated to blogging or tweeting public information.

Making lists certainly fits. Making it clear that donors were noticed, implied threat of use of powers. IRS immediately comes to mind.

So do stereoscopes up the poochute as IRS M.O....a weapon as the IRS should be abolished so it can cease to be used as a political weapon.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

And when Romneys are demonizing for doing nothing other than donatining...Microscope up the poopchute by Obama and the LEFT...

Sorry...YOU remain a whiner.

Really? What you say that I'm "whining" about?

Inxomplete sentences makes it hard to reply. Looks like your best defense of the day though.

I'm posting from an iPhone. What's your excuse?