Beto keeps giving: Will pay for confiscating guns by attacking gun makers...let your fascist out ..

[BULLDOG]

I'm not giving up my guns.

Glad to hear it. Neither am I. Do you support the idea of confiscating semi-automatic AR type rifles? Once those are gone from civilian hands what is next, semi-auto pistols?

Not on a widespread basis, however, if some nutbag has already threatened others, or there is reason to believe they might twist off, you're damn right I want his guns taken. We both know that the AR is a military design and built to kill as many as possible as quickly as possible. It shouldn't be manufactured or sold to the public. There is more to an AR than just being a semi-auto, even if that is what the gun nuts claim.

No, the AR-15 is not a military design it is a simple, semi-automatic rifle, just like all the other semi-automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns that millions of Americans own.

You are either really stupid or lying.....

No. It was originally a military design, but slightly modified for civilian sales.

Wrong.....it is a civilian rifle, never used by the military.

AR15 is the semi-automatic version of the M16 dumb ass.

 

[2aguy]

Glad to hear it. Neither am I. Do you support the idea of confiscating semi-automatic AR type rifles? Once those are gone from civilian hands what is next, semi-auto pistols?

Not on a widespread basis, however, if some nutbag has already threatened others, or there is reason to believe they might twist off, you're damn right I want his guns taken. We both know that the AR is a military design and built to kill as many as possible as quickly as possible. It shouldn't be manufactured or sold to the public. There is more to an AR than just being a semi-auto, even if that is what the gun nuts claim.

No, the AR-15 is not a military design it is a simple, semi-automatic rifle, just like all the other semi-automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns that millions of Americans own.

You are either really stupid or lying.....

No. It was originally a military design, but slightly modified for civilian sales.

Wrong.....it is a civilian rifle, never used by the military.

AR15 is the semi-automatic version of the M16 dumb ass.

No, dumb ass.......and by stating what you stated you just proved that the AR-15 is not the same as the M16 or M4....you dumb shit.....the AR-15 is a civilian and police rifle...it has never been used in war, it has never been used by the military.

 

[BULLDOG]

Our current way has already killed millions.

Millions, Gracie?

Just an off the cuff guess. I could be wrong. Average over 100 per day for lots of years makes millions seem possible. If you've done the math, I don't have a problem accepting a different number.

Wrong.....the mass murder in Europe murdered more people than criminals with gun in America have killed......you simply want the government to murder people.....

You know that's bullshit, right? We kill more each day than Europe, unless you are goofy enough to count wars. We should be doing what they are doing.

Gun murders are the issue here, not all murder.....and Europe murdered 12 million people after they disarmed them.....they killed more people in that short period of time than all of our criminals since have killed.....your math is wrong......

12 million averaged out since 1939 makes 150,000 people a year......we have no where near that number of innocent people killed each year.

Of our 10,265 gun murders in 2018, 80% of the victims were criminals involved in the criminal life........leaving 2,053 innocent gun murder victims.....leaving aside the fact that the majority of those victims are friends and family of criminals caught between violent criminals shooting at each other.......during that same time? 164,240 innocent gun murder victims since 1939....and that is attributing the same violent gun murder number in years before the destruction of the family here in the U.S......so the number isn't even that high....

Most murder victims in big cities have criminal record - WND

A review of murder statistics across America shows that in many large cities, up to 90 percent of the victims have criminal records.
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The report concludes that “of the 2011 homicide victims, 77 percent (66) had a least one prior arrest and of the known 2011 homicide suspects 90 percent (74) had at least one prior arrest.”

Gang Killers In Chicago Used Christmas Gatherings To Target Their Victims

Gang killers, knowing their targets would be home for Christmas, launched a bloody weekend of shootings in Chicago that left 11 dead and another 37 wounded.

"We now know that the majority of these shootings and homicides were targeted attacks by gangs against potential rivals who were at holiday gatherings. This was followed by several acts of retaliatory gun violence," police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said in a statement Monday.

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The violence primarily occurred in areas with historical gang conflicts on the South and West Side of Chicago."


And this is what we keep telling you anti gunners and you refuse to believe it....

"Ninety percent of those fatally wounded had gang affiliations, criminal histories and were pre-identified by the department's strategic subject algorithm as being a potential suspect or victim of gun violence," Guglielmi said.
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2017 homicide data provide insight into Baltimore's gun wars, police say



About 86 percent of the victims and 85 percent of the 118 suspects identified by police had prior criminal records. And about 46 percent of victims and 44 percent of suspects had previously been arrested for gun crimes, the data show.

Roy Exum: How We Stop The Bullets

David Kennedy, a renowned criminal justice professor and co-chair of the National Network for Safe Communities, believes that places like the 1500 block of East 50th Street where Deontrey was killed, or Central Avenue where two other Chattanoogans were shot around the same time, aren’t necessarily bad areas. Good people live in those areas, just as the overwhelming numbers of those who live in our inner city are decent and law-abiding citizens.
No, our new focus isn’t on neighborhoods like Alton Park or East Chattanooga but instead on “hot” places” and “hot” people. In an article entitled, “The Story Behind the Nation’s Falling Body Count,” Kennedy writes, “Research on hot spots shows violence to be concentrated in ‘micro’ places, rather than ‘dangerous neighborhoods,’ as the popular idea goes. Blocks, corners, and buildings representing just five or six percent of an entire city will drive half of its serious crime.”
The same is true about people. “We now know that homicide and gun violence are overwhelmingly concentrated among serious offenders operating in groups: gangs, drug crews, and the like representing under half of one percent of a city's population who commit half to three-quarters of all murders.”
Read it once more: “ … under half of one percent … commit half to three-quarters of all murders.”
It is vitally important for us to realize the recent “worst of the worst” roundup had very little to do with race, yet to the uninformed it clearly appeared that only blacks were targeted.
Try to forget that all were black and focus instead on the far greater fact – there is ample evidence that each is alleged to be a serious criminal.
Kennedy writes, “We also know some reliable predictors of risk: individuals who have a history of violence or a close connection with prior victims are far more likely to be involved in violence themselves.
Hot groups and people are so hot that when their offending is statistically abstracted, their neighborhoods cease to be dangerous. Their communities aren't dangerous; (these criminals) are.”

So you are goofy enough to try counting wars into the discussion, and we're back to your massive cut and paste obsession. You are more predictable than the tides.

 

[2aguy]

Millions, Gracie?

Just an off the cuff guess. I could be wrong. Average over 100 per day for lots of years makes millions seem possible. If you've done the math, I don't have a problem accepting a different number.

Wrong.....the mass murder in Europe murdered more people than criminals with gun in America have killed......you simply want the government to murder people.....

You know that's bullshit, right? We kill more each day than Europe, unless you are goofy enough to count wars. We should be doing what they are doing.

Gun murders are the issue here, not all murder.....and Europe murdered 12 million people after they disarmed them.....they killed more people in that short period of time than all of our criminals since have killed.....your math is wrong......

12 million averaged out since 1939 makes 150,000 people a year......we have no where near that number of innocent people killed each year.

Of our 10,265 gun murders in 2018, 80% of the victims were criminals involved in the criminal life........leaving 2,053 innocent gun murder victims.....leaving aside the fact that the majority of those victims are friends and family of criminals caught between violent criminals shooting at each other.......during that same time? 164,240 innocent gun murder victims since 1939....and that is attributing the same violent gun murder number in years before the destruction of the family here in the U.S......so the number isn't even that high....

Most murder victims in big cities have criminal record - WND

A review of murder statistics across America shows that in many large cities, up to 90 percent of the victims have criminal records.
-------
The report concludes that “of the 2011 homicide victims, 77 percent (66) had a least one prior arrest and of the known 2011 homicide suspects 90 percent (74) had at least one prior arrest.”

Gang Killers In Chicago Used Christmas Gatherings To Target Their Victims

Gang killers, knowing their targets would be home for Christmas, launched a bloody weekend of shootings in Chicago that left 11 dead and another 37 wounded.

"We now know that the majority of these shootings and homicides were targeted attacks by gangs against potential rivals who were at holiday gatherings. This was followed by several acts of retaliatory gun violence," police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said in a statement Monday.

--------------

The violence primarily occurred in areas with historical gang conflicts on the South and West Side of Chicago."


And this is what we keep telling you anti gunners and you refuse to believe it....

"Ninety percent of those fatally wounded had gang affiliations, criminal histories and were pre-identified by the department's strategic subject algorithm as being a potential suspect or victim of gun violence," Guglielmi said.
=

2017 homicide data provide insight into Baltimore's gun wars, police say



About 86 percent of the victims and 85 percent of the 118 suspects identified by police had prior criminal records. And about 46 percent of victims and 44 percent of suspects had previously been arrested for gun crimes, the data show.

Roy Exum: How We Stop The Bullets

David Kennedy, a renowned criminal justice professor and co-chair of the National Network for Safe Communities, believes that places like the 1500 block of East 50th Street where Deontrey was killed, or Central Avenue where two other Chattanoogans were shot around the same time, aren’t necessarily bad areas. Good people live in those areas, just as the overwhelming numbers of those who live in our inner city are decent and law-abiding citizens.
No, our new focus isn’t on neighborhoods like Alton Park or East Chattanooga but instead on “hot” places” and “hot” people. In an article entitled, “The Story Behind the Nation’s Falling Body Count,” Kennedy writes, “Research on hot spots shows violence to be concentrated in ‘micro’ places, rather than ‘dangerous neighborhoods,’ as the popular idea goes. Blocks, corners, and buildings representing just five or six percent of an entire city will drive half of its serious crime.”
The same is true about people. “We now know that homicide and gun violence are overwhelmingly concentrated among serious offenders operating in groups: gangs, drug crews, and the like representing under half of one percent of a city's population who commit half to three-quarters of all murders.”
Read it once more: “ … under half of one percent … commit half to three-quarters of all murders.”
It is vitally important for us to realize the recent “worst of the worst” roundup had very little to do with race, yet to the uninformed it clearly appeared that only blacks were targeted.
Try to forget that all were black and focus instead on the far greater fact – there is ample evidence that each is alleged to be a serious criminal.
Kennedy writes, “We also know some reliable predictors of risk: individuals who have a history of violence or a close connection with prior victims are far more likely to be involved in violence themselves.
Hot groups and people are so hot that when their offending is statistically abstracted, their neighborhoods cease to be dangerous. Their communities aren't dangerous; (these criminals) are.”

So you are goofy enough to try counting wars into the discussion, and we're back to your massive cut and paste obsession. You are more predictable than the tides.

Murder is murder doofus, and your gun control path led to more murder than our criminals commit......

 

[BULLDOG]

Just an off the cuff guess. I could be wrong. Average over 100 per day for lots of years makes millions seem possible. If you've done the math, I don't have a problem accepting a different number.

Wrong.....the mass murder in Europe murdered more people than criminals with gun in America have killed......you simply want the government to murder people.....

You know that's bullshit, right? We kill more each day than Europe, unless you are goofy enough to count wars. We should be doing what they are doing.

Gun murders are the issue here, not all murder.....and Europe murdered 12 million people after they disarmed them.....they killed more people in that short period of time than all of our criminals since have killed.....your math is wrong......

12 million averaged out since 1939 makes 150,000 people a year......we have no where near that number of innocent people killed each year.

Of our 10,265 gun murders in 2018, 80% of the victims were criminals involved in the criminal life........leaving 2,053 innocent gun murder victims.....leaving aside the fact that the majority of those victims are friends and family of criminals caught between violent criminals shooting at each other.......during that same time? 164,240 innocent gun murder victims since 1939....and that is attributing the same violent gun murder number in years before the destruction of the family here in the U.S......so the number isn't even that high....

Most murder victims in big cities have criminal record - WND

A review of murder statistics across America shows that in many large cities, up to 90 percent of the victims have criminal records.
-------
The report concludes that “of the 2011 homicide victims, 77 percent (66) had a least one prior arrest and of the known 2011 homicide suspects 90 percent (74) had at least one prior arrest.”

Gang Killers In Chicago Used Christmas Gatherings To Target Their Victims

Gang killers, knowing their targets would be home for Christmas, launched a bloody weekend of shootings in Chicago that left 11 dead and another 37 wounded.

"We now know that the majority of these shootings and homicides were targeted attacks by gangs against potential rivals who were at holiday gatherings. This was followed by several acts of retaliatory gun violence," police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said in a statement Monday.

--------------

The violence primarily occurred in areas with historical gang conflicts on the South and West Side of Chicago."


And this is what we keep telling you anti gunners and you refuse to believe it....

"Ninety percent of those fatally wounded had gang affiliations, criminal histories and were pre-identified by the department's strategic subject algorithm as being a potential suspect or victim of gun violence," Guglielmi said.
=

2017 homicide data provide insight into Baltimore's gun wars, police say



About 86 percent of the victims and 85 percent of the 118 suspects identified by police had prior criminal records. And about 46 percent of victims and 44 percent of suspects had previously been arrested for gun crimes, the data show.

Roy Exum: How We Stop The Bullets

David Kennedy, a renowned criminal justice professor and co-chair of the National Network for Safe Communities, believes that places like the 1500 block of East 50th Street where Deontrey was killed, or Central Avenue where two other Chattanoogans were shot around the same time, aren’t necessarily bad areas. Good people live in those areas, just as the overwhelming numbers of those who live in our inner city are decent and law-abiding citizens.
No, our new focus isn’t on neighborhoods like Alton Park or East Chattanooga but instead on “hot” places” and “hot” people. In an article entitled, “The Story Behind the Nation’s Falling Body Count,” Kennedy writes, “Research on hot spots shows violence to be concentrated in ‘micro’ places, rather than ‘dangerous neighborhoods,’ as the popular idea goes. Blocks, corners, and buildings representing just five or six percent of an entire city will drive half of its serious crime.”
The same is true about people. “We now know that homicide and gun violence are overwhelmingly concentrated among serious offenders operating in groups: gangs, drug crews, and the like representing under half of one percent of a city's population who commit half to three-quarters of all murders.”
Read it once more: “ … under half of one percent … commit half to three-quarters of all murders.”
It is vitally important for us to realize the recent “worst of the worst” roundup had very little to do with race, yet to the uninformed it clearly appeared that only blacks were targeted.
Try to forget that all were black and focus instead on the far greater fact – there is ample evidence that each is alleged to be a serious criminal.
Kennedy writes, “We also know some reliable predictors of risk: individuals who have a history of violence or a close connection with prior victims are far more likely to be involved in violence themselves.
Hot groups and people are so hot that when their offending is statistically abstracted, their neighborhoods cease to be dangerous. Their communities aren't dangerous; (these criminals) are.”

So you are goofy enough to try counting wars into the discussion, and we're back to your massive cut and paste obsession. You are more predictable than the tides.

Murder is murder doofus, and your gun control path led to more murder than our criminals commit......

I'm beginning to understand your massive cut and paste efforts. When you post a short concise answer, your stupidity has nothing to hide behind.

 

[AquaAthena]

Beto understands that killing a few is better than killing a lot. We should be doing what others are doing.

Betos way leads to killing millions. Thats the fascist way

That's true, westwall, for I watched as he was interviewed recently and little Bobby Francis O'Rourke stated he would confiscate those guns he wants to be turned in if owners would not comply. Whoa!

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Beto understands that killing a few is better than killing a lot. We should be doing what others are doing.

Betos way leads to killing millions. Thats the fascist way

That's true, westwall, for I watched as he was interviewed recently and little Bobby Francis O'Rourke stated he would confiscate those guns he wants to be turned in if owners would not comply. Whoa!

I hope Beto personally shows up to grab ours.

Bad move, Beto

 

[whitehall]

Beto doesn't know when to quit does he? Is there anybody on the democrat side that doesn't cringe when they hear him speak? He makes Biden look like a genius and that's hard to do.

 

[BULLDOG]

Beto doesn't know when to quit does he? Is there anybody on the democrat side that doesn't cringe when they hear him speak? He makes Biden look like a genius and that's hard to do.

Yet you seem to think Beto's remarks somehow bind the entire Democratic party as far as policies and goals. There is a wide range of projected policies and goals represented by the candidates for the Democratic party. Only an idiot would pick out just 1 remark by 1 candidate and claim the entire party supports that.

 

[satrebil]

Beto doesn't know when to quit does he? Is there anybody on the democrat side that doesn't cringe when they hear him speak? He makes Biden look like a genius and that's hard to do.

Yet you seem to think Beto's remarks somehow bind the entire Democratic party as far as policies and goals. There is a wide range of projected policies and goals represented by the candidates for the Democratic party. Only an idiot would pick out just 1 remark by 1 candidate and claim the entire party supports that.

Like you and your leftist brethren do with every GOP politician?

Hi pot, meet kettle.

 

[Moonglow]

Beto......I should really send the guy some money so he can keep making the debate stage.......if he doesn't single handedly get Trump re-elected, it won't be for lack of trying...

O'Rourke Says Gun Manufacturers Will Pay For His Confiscation Plan

Robert Francis “Beto” O’Rourke is still out there jabbering away about his big plan to ban so-called “assault weapons” and require gun owners to hand them over in exchange for some cash. In a new interview with CBS News, O’Rourke says his compensated confiscation plan wouldn’t require any new taxes, because they’d just confiscate the cash to pay for the program from gun manufacturers.

“I think that a mandatory buyback can be financed with a surcharge that would be paid by gun manufacturers,” O’Rourke said. “Those who are making the AR-15s and AK-47s and continue to sell them into our communities despite the terror that they’ve inspired and the lives that they’ve taken. I think this is the right way to fund a mandatory buyback without imposing any new taxes on our fellow Americans.”

How does this guys stance on weapons make him a fascist?

 

[Nostra]

Beto......I should really send the guy some money so he can keep making the debate stage.......if he doesn't single handedly get Trump re-elected, it won't be for lack of trying...

O'Rourke Says Gun Manufacturers Will Pay For His Confiscation Plan

Robert Francis “Beto” O’Rourke is still out there jabbering away about his big plan to ban so-called “assault weapons” and require gun owners to hand them over in exchange for some cash. In a new interview with CBS News, O’Rourke says his compensated confiscation plan wouldn’t require any new taxes, because they’d just confiscate the cash to pay for the program from gun manufacturers.

“I think that a mandatory buyback can be financed with a surcharge that would be paid by gun manufacturers,” O’Rourke said. “Those who are making the AR-15s and AK-47s and continue to sell them into our communities despite the terror that they’ve inspired and the lives that they’ve taken. I think this is the right way to fund a mandatory buyback without imposing any new taxes on our fellow Americans.”

How does this guys stance on weapons make him a fascist?

By saying he will show up at your door with armed goons to take your property by force.

 

[2aguy]

Beto......I should really send the guy some money so he can keep making the debate stage.......if he doesn't single handedly get Trump re-elected, it won't be for lack of trying...

O'Rourke Says Gun Manufacturers Will Pay For His Confiscation Plan

Robert Francis “Beto” O’Rourke is still out there jabbering away about his big plan to ban so-called “assault weapons” and require gun owners to hand them over in exchange for some cash. In a new interview with CBS News, O’Rourke says his compensated confiscation plan wouldn’t require any new taxes, because they’d just confiscate the cash to pay for the program from gun manufacturers.

“I think that a mandatory buyback can be financed with a surcharge that would be paid by gun manufacturers,” O’Rourke said. “Those who are making the AR-15s and AK-47s and continue to sell them into our communities despite the terror that they’ve inspired and the lives that they’ve taken. I think this is the right way to fund a mandatory buyback without imposing any new taxes on our fellow Americans.”

How does this guys stance on weapons make him a fascist?

Taking money from companies who did nothing wrong makes him a fascist.