Fenton Lum
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NO ONE, EVER in the history of mankind, has recommended the government build hospitals that they run, for our health care.
Universal Healthcare is simply MEDICARE....you get to choose your hospital and doctors that are in the marketplace, and the gvt gives you a voucher/via a card, to pay for 80% of it and you pay the other 20%.
Do you realize that many doctors no longer take Medicare patients...because the government does not reimburse for the services at the actual cost of the service....so that isn't the market place....and the medicare system is a mess.......as one healthcare expert said during an interview...people on medicare have healthcare, they just can't see a doctor...because too many doctors refuse medicare patients.....
The only way to fix the system is to get the government out of it.....Vouchers for healthcare would be one way to support people with pre-existing conditions and people who can't afford it...then they can buy their own plans or simply pay for their treatment directly.....that would increase competition and introduce more freedom into the healthcare industry.....improving it at all levels.
That has been the pitch all along, and look where we are; the single most expensive healthcare system on the planet with some of the shittiest outcome metrics amongst advanced post-industrial nations. Sure, let's move everything over to for profit totally unaccountable private corporations. "Competition" is a lie, we've never had that in this healthcare system at all.
Nope...what has made it expensive is the government....they have created in state monopolies and forced insurance companies to do stupid things.......competition and freedom of child's....that improves everything...it will improve healthcare.......what is it about that that you guys don't understand...as you walk around with cell phones that are better, cheaper and more available than ever before....to the point that the poorest among us have personal phones even Captain Kirk didn't have........and yet you think those dynamics won't happen with healthcare.......
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, the gubment did it to ya.
Yeah....and what happened when Obamacare kicked in...that gave more control over healthcare to the government? People lost their plans and their doctors...premiums went up astronomically and deductibles became u payable...and oh yeah......if you don't get it, they fine you.......and if you have a business and don't have it...they fine you...unless you just don't give your employees health insurance, then they fine you less.....so they actually make it less punishing to drop your healthcare...and pay the lower fine, than to give your employees good health insurance....
And that is what you think is intelligent.....that is government handling healthcare?
Wow....
What happened when Obama attempted to implement the Heritage Foundation hatched plan that had been launched successfully by Romney in the state of MA was that he, Obama, caved on single payer, and secondly, allowed lobbyists from big pharma and the insurance industry in the room. Of course it ended up as those things always do; the US lagging behind the rest of the industrialized world.