Be on the lookout, gunman on the loose in England, a land that confiscated guns...

[2aguy]

After a 10 hour stand off the gunman escaped...and is on the loose....

Suspected gunman on the run in Surrey after police stand-off

A suspected gunman who caused a Surrey street to be locked down by armed police for 10 hours is on the run after apparently escaping a police cordon.

Officers are warning members of the public not to approach Paul Hodge, 57, who is wanted on suspicion of drugs and firearms offences.

A pre-planned raid was being carried out on a home in Smallfield, near Gatwick Airport, at 6am on Thursday morning when a man was reportedly seen with a gun.

 

[konradv]

Most handguns are banned in the UK, but not long guns. As for outright confiscation, I haven't been able to find any evidence from reliable sources.

Firearms policy in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[westwall]

Most handguns are banned in the UK, but not long guns. As for outright confiscation, I haven't been able to find any evidence from reliable sources.

Firearms policy in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And, surprise surprise, bad guys can easily get them while they are denied to the rest of the population who are not criminals.

 

[konradv]

Most handguns are banned in the UK, but not long guns. As for outright confiscation, I haven't been able to find any evidence from reliable sources. Firearms policy in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And, surprise surprise, bad guys can easily get them while they are denied to the rest of the population who are not criminals.

Do you have some sort of evidence proving that they're easy to get? How do you explain that the level of handgun violence is much lower in the UK than here, if they're so readily obtainable?

 

[TheOldSchool]

After a 10 hour stand off the gunman escaped...and is on the loose....

Suspected gunman on the run in Surrey after police stand-off

A suspected gunman who caused a Surrey street to be locked down by armed police for 10 hours is on the run after apparently escaping a police cordon.

Officers are warning members of the public not to approach Paul Hodge, 57, who is wanted on suspicion of drugs and firearms offences.

A pre-planned raid was being carried out on a home in Smallfield, near Gatwick Airport, at 6am on Thursday morning when a man was reportedly seen with a gun.

Meh. That happens every other day here.

 

[DarkFury]

After a 10 hour stand off the gunman escaped...and is on the loose....

Suspected gunman on the run in Surrey after police stand-off

A suspected gunman who caused a Surrey street to be locked down by armed police for 10 hours is on the run after apparently escaping a police cordon.

Officers are warning members of the public not to approach Paul Hodge, 57, who is wanted on suspicion of drugs and firearms offences.

A pre-planned raid was being carried out on a home in Smallfield, near Gatwick Airport, at 6am on Thursday morning when a man was reportedly seen with a gun.

"Suspected gunman"
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"suspicion of drugs and firearms offences."
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"reportedly seen with a gun"

How can you be on the run when your not shown to be guilty of ANYTHING but suspicion?

 

[2aguy]

Most handguns are banned in the UK, but not long guns. As for outright confiscation, I haven't been able to find any evidence from reliable sources. Firearms policy in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And, surprise surprise, bad guys can easily get them while they are denied to the rest of the population who are not criminals.

Do you have some sort of evidence proving that they're easy to get? How do you explain that the level of handgun violence is much lower in the UK than here, if they're so readily obtainable?

After the Dunblane massacre they banned guns.....except for the guns of the wealthy.......

then of course their gun crime rate spiked.......it did not

Most handguns are banned in the UK, but not long guns. As for outright confiscation, I haven't been able to find any evidence from reliable sources. Firearms policy in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And, surprise surprise, bad guys can easily get them while they are denied to the rest of the population who are not criminals.

Do you have some sort of evidence proving that they're easy to get? How do you explain that the level of handgun violence is much lower in the UK than here, if they're so readily obtainable?

Here are the news stories....

Armed police to patrol shooting ‘hotspots’ in Newham, Hackney, Haringey, Brent, Lambeth and Southwark

Armed police patrols will target gun crime hotspots across the capital after a rise in the number of shootings, as Scotland Yard says there are more guns on the streets.

----Scotland Yard said the majority of shootings last year involved handguns. In 2015, 56% were handguns, 27% shotguns, 2% automatic weapons and 15% unknown or converted imitations.

Among victims 42% had links to gangs, and half of victims had links to drug dealing.

Sir Bernard said the rise in shootings nationally suggests that more weapons are getting on to the streets.

“The potential is that more guns have got through than we’ve known about and they’ve got in to the hands of criminals.

That’s the best explanation at the moment. “Clearly in some areas there is a gang element to it but that doesn’t account for all of it.

The fact that we’re seeing it across the country in the big cities probably indicates that we’re talking about more supply.” He warned that terrorists could go to criminal sources to buy guns.

“As we’ve seen in Europe, particularly looking at France and Belgium, if we allow easy access or allow any liberal approach to the possession of firearms for criminals, then it allows the possibility that terrorists get hold of it.Terrorists are generally going to go to a criminal source to supply them, there’s no way we want that to happen in Britain.”

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Another story.....


Rise in UK firearms trade may provide terrorists with weapons, say police


Police have warned that the supply of guns to criminals in the UK has increased, adding to fears that weapons may be sold on to terrorists wanting to stage a Paris-style attack in Britain.

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He added: “The French and the Belgians accept that in the last 10 years criminals have got more access to weapons, particularly automatic weapons, who have then been the source for the terrorists. If your general supply is higher, the chances of a terrorist getting hold of them are also higher.”

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Hogan-Howe said there were more illegal guns on the streets and said the rise in shootings in the last three months was significant: “The fact that we’re seeing it across the country in the big cities probably indicates that we’re talking about more supply.” Nationally, there has been an increase of around 19% in firearms discharges since 2013-14, with London also experiencing roughly that level of increase.

 

[2aguy]

Most handguns are banned in the UK, but not long guns. As for outright confiscation, I haven't been able to find any evidence from reliable sources. Firearms policy in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And, surprise surprise, bad guys can easily get them while they are denied to the rest of the population who are not criminals.

Do you have some sort of evidence proving that they're easy to get? How do you explain that the level of handgun violence is much lower in the UK than here, if they're so readily obtainable?

The primary reason is that the criminal culture of Britain is different from the criminal culture in the United States....our criminals commit more murder than those over seas...but that is changing....

 

[westwall]

Most handguns are banned in the UK, but not long guns. As for outright confiscation, I haven't been able to find any evidence from reliable sources. Firearms policy in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And, surprise surprise, bad guys can easily get them while they are denied to the rest of the population who are not criminals.

Do you have some sort of evidence proving that they're easy to get? How do you explain that the level of handgun violence is much lower in the UK than here, if they're so readily obtainable?

Of course. The fact that any bad guy that wants one, has one. Germany has some of the strictest laws on the book. A kid, not legally allowed to possess a handgun even here in the USA, easily obtained the pistol he used to gun down those poor kids in Munich. France is the same. Gun laws that you all envy and that did bupkus to prevent three men armed with machineguns from killing 150 people. Japan has more guns than criminals according to the Japanese police.

The facts are very clear. Gun control disarms the PEOPLE, but the rich (who are the ones pushing gun control after all) and the criminals, can get them just fine.

 

[2aguy]

Most handguns are banned in the UK, but not long guns. As for outright confiscation, I haven't been able to find any evidence from reliable sources. Firearms policy in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And, surprise surprise, bad guys can easily get them while they are denied to the rest of the population who are not criminals.

Do you have some sort of evidence proving that they're easy to get? How do you explain that the level of handgun violence is much lower in the UK than here, if they're so readily obtainable?

Then you have this....

Pictured: Britain's biggest illegal weapons stash including missile launcher

Police found 463 illegal firearms, including rifles, machine guns and an anti-tank missile, along with 200,000 rounds of ammunition in a secret room at the home of crane operator and parish council chairman James Arnold, 49, in the village of Wyverstone, Suffolk.

The haul gradually came to light as officers spent six weeks searching his isolated rural home, carrying out controlled explosions and discovering a secret room hidden behind a false wall in his kitchen.

 

[westwall]

After a 10 hour stand off the gunman escaped...and is on the loose....

Suspected gunman on the run in Surrey after police stand-off

A suspected gunman who caused a Surrey street to be locked down by armed police for 10 hours is on the run after apparently escaping a police cordon.

Officers are warning members of the public not to approach Paul Hodge, 57, who is wanted on suspicion of drugs and firearms offences.

A pre-planned raid was being carried out on a home in Smallfield, near Gatwick Airport, at 6am on Thursday morning when a man was reportedly seen with a gun.

Meh. That happens every other day here.

That's because we have more third world gang bangers here than exist anywhere else in the world. If we were able to send all of our gang bangers to Europe and we got their criminals in exchange our gun death rate would plummet, and theirs would skyrocket. It's not the tool, it's the critter using the tool. Third world gangsters don't give a shit about human life. They enjoy hurting people because they are still savages at heart.

 

[Moonglow]

Most handguns are banned in the UK, but not long guns. As for outright confiscation, I haven't been able to find any evidence from reliable sources.

Firearms policy in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And, surprise surprise, bad guys can easily get them while they are denied to the rest of the population who are not criminals.

There are many firearms in England, what do you think they hunt with?

 

[westwall]

Most handguns are banned in the UK, but not long guns. As for outright confiscation, I haven't been able to find any evidence from reliable sources.

Firearms policy in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And, surprise surprise, bad guys can easily get them while they are denied to the rest of the population who are not criminals.

There are many firearms in England, what do you think they hunt with?

Yes....the RICH have guns. Not the middle class. That's the point we're making silly boy. When guns are outlawed only the RICH and the criminals have guns.

 

[2aguy]

Most handguns are banned in the UK, but not long guns. As for outright confiscation, I haven't been able to find any evidence from reliable sources. Firearms policy in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And, surprise surprise, bad guys can easily get them while they are denied to the rest of the population who are not criminals.

Do you have some sort of evidence proving that they're easy to get? How do you explain that the level of handgun violence is much lower in the UK than here, if they're so readily obtainable?

Here you go....the details...

Firearms policy in the United Kingdom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1997 Firearms (Amendment) Acts[edit]
Following the Dunblane massacre, the government passed the Firearms (Amendment) Act 1997 and the Firearms (Amendment) (No. 2) Act 1997, banning private possession of handguns almost completely. Exceptions to the ban include muzzle-loading guns, pistols of historic interest (such as pistols used in notable crimes, rare prototypes, unusual serial numbers, guns forming part of a collection), guns used for starting sporting events, signal pistols, pistols that are of particular aesthetic interest (such as engraved or jewelled guns) and shot pistols for pest control. Under certain circumstances, individuals may be issued a PPW (Personal Protection Weapon) licence. Even the UK's Olympic shooters fall under this ban; shooters can only train in Northern Ireland, the Channel Islands, the Isle of Man, or abroad (in Switzerland, in practice).[75]

162,000 pistols and 700 tons of ammunition and related equipment were handed in by an estimated 57,000 people - 0.1% of the population, or 1 in every 960 persons.[76