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Left-wing crapologetic, then?BBC is not a right wing organization by any stretch of the imagination.
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Left-wing crapologetic, then?BBC is not a right wing organization by any stretch of the imagination.
resistance to occupation
terrorists!
Exactly. Thats what my thread is about, the terrorist settlers in the "occupied" west bank & east jerusalum Do you know what 'occupied" means?
The British Mandate recognized the right of the Jewish people to "close settlement" in the whole of the Mandated territory [Palestine]. The Jewish right of settlement in Palestine west of the Jordan river, that is, in Israel, the West Bank, Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip, was made unassailable. That right has never been terminated and cannot be terminated except by a recognized peace between Israel and its neighbors. And perhaps not even then, in view of Article 80 of the U.N. Charter, "the Palestine article," which provides that "nothing in the Charter shall be construed ... to alter in any manner the rights whatsoever of any states or any peoples or the terms of existing international instruments...."
The mandate implicitly denies Arab claims to national political rights in the area in favor of the Jews; the mandated territory was in effect reserved to the Jewish people for their self-determination and political development, in acknowledgment of the historic connection of the Jewish people to the land. Lord Curzon, who was then the British Foreign Minister, made this reading of the mandate explicit. There remains simply the theory that the Arab inhabitants of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip have an inherent 'natural law' claim to the area. Neither customary international law nor the United Nations Charter acknowledges that every group of people claiming to be a nation has the right to a state of its own."
Resolved: are the settlements legal? Israeli West Bank policies
I can always count on jillian, the liberal, "pro-occupation" poster. I'm a liberal but I support International Law which the settlers are in violation of. You ever heard of J Street jillian? They are an organization that isa reasonable/rational alternative to A1PAC. You should look into them. A1PAC, which all U.S. Presidential candidates have had to grovel to in the elections.Here's the clincher voiced by an israeli General:
BBC News - Concerns over rising settler violence in the West Bank
Brigadier General Alon said not enough had been done to tackle Jewish extremism referring to price tag attacks as "terror".
"These acts not only should be condemned for their folly and wrongdoing but we should also have done more to prevent them and to arrest the perpetrators," he said in his outgoing speech.
how many threads have you done about atrocities committed against israelis.
i'm not big on the settlements, but if they really wanted them to go away, they'd make a deal. no other country on the planet unilaterally gives in to people who lob missiles at them.
i'll be looking for your threads pointing out what the hamas and hezbollah terrorists do.
From the BBC article:It's a battle Dot Com. Two sides fight this battle and you sound like you just want the Jews to move back and await an attack. Oh, and give their protection away as well.
Brigadier General Alon said not enough had been done to tackle Jewish extremism referring to price tag attacks as "terror".
How so, if they pursue their occupation?Resistance to occupation
BBC is not a right wing organization by any stretch of the imagination. They also said that the settlers were in violation of International Law.
BBC News - Concerns over rising settler violence in the West Bank
The facts are the facts.'Shameful' inaction
The United Nations says the number of attacks by extremist Jewish settlers on Palestinians resulting in either injury or damage to property has roughly tripled since 2009.
The UN says in 90% of complaints filed to the Israeli police by Palestinians against settlers, nobody is ever indicted.
In October, an Israeli army patrol was surrounded and assaulted by a group of extremist settlers in the West Bank.
Extremist settlers have set fire to West Bank mosques and daubed their walls with graffiti
The attack on the soldiers came after a Jewish teenager was arrested on suspicion of carrying out an arson attack on a Palestinian mosque.
Yes facts are facts; the bigest is there are criminals in every society in the world. the difference is if a jew commits a crime againts palestinians and the police can catcth them they are prosecuted.As witnessed by your post,even to the point of risking harm to their soldiers to bring the punk to justice.( the whole 90% I think is a little high in my opinion due to UN propaganda but I may be wrong) In any case it beats the 100% of palestinian terrorists who are not arrestd by hamas the so called government of the palestinians. Not only does hamas show 0 interest in catching criminals commiting crimes against Israelis they openly encourage it.
SO THANK YOU For the post showing why the Israeli is so much better than the palestinian.
terrorists!
Exactly. Thats what my thread is about, the terrorist settlers in the "occupied" west bank & east jerusalum Do you know what 'occupied" means?
Douche, you got pwned. Go to mommy like I told you.
Exactly. Thats what my thread is about, the terrorist settlers in the "occupied" west bank & east jerusalum Do you know what 'occupied" means?
Douche, you got pwned. Go to mommy like I told you.
How many times do you have to spam the same propoganda spamboi? Whats w/ the potty mouth too? Why do so many z10nists/hgasbara posters on the interwebs have potty mouths?
The British Mandate recognized the right of the Jewish people to "close settlement" in the whole of the Mandated territory [Palestine]. The Jewish right of settlement in Palestine west of the Jordan river, that is, in Israel, the West Bank, Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip, was made unassailable. That right has never been terminated and cannot be terminated except by a recognized peace between Israel and its neighbors. And perhaps not even then, in view of Article 80 of the U.N. Charter, "the Palestine article," which provides that "nothing in the Charter shall be construed ... to alter in any manner the rights whatsoever of any states or any peoples or the terms of existing international instruments...."
The mandate implicitly denies Arab claims to national political rights in the area in favor of the Jews; the mandated territory was in effect reserved to the Jewish people for their self-determination and political development, in acknowledgment of the historic connection of the Jewish people to the land. Lord Curzon, who was then the British Foreign Minister, made this reading of the mandate explicit. There remains simply the theory that the Arab inhabitants of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip have an inherent 'natural law' claim to the area. Neither customary international law nor the United Nations Charter acknowledges that every group of people claiming to be a nation has the right to a state of its own."
Resolved: are the settlements legal? Israeli West Bank policies
What might that "international law" be?I'm a liberal but I support International Law which the settlers are in violation of.
What might that "international law" be?I'm a liberal but I support International Law which the settlers are in violation of.
Israeli-occupied territories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaIsrael's annexation of East Jerusalem in 1980[5] and the Golan Heights in 1981[6] has not been recognised by any other country.[7][8] United Nations Security Council Resolution 478 declared the annexation of Jerusalem "null and void" and required that it be rescinded. Following withdrawal by Israel from the Sinai Peninsula in 1982, as part of the 1979 IsraelEgypt Peace Treaty, that territory ceased to be considered occupied territory. Israel unilaterally disengaged from Gaza in September 2005, and declared itself no longer to be in occupation of the Strip. However, as it retains control of Gaza's airspace and coastline, it continues to be designated as an occupying power in the Gaza Strip by the some countries and various human rights organizations
The significance of the designation of these territories as occupied territory is that certain legal obligations fall on the occupying power under international law. Under international law there are certain laws of war governing military occupation, including the Hague Conventions of 1899 and 1907 and the Fourth Geneva Convention.[12] One of those obligations is to maintain the status quo until the signing of a peace treaty, the resolution of specific conditions outlined in a peace treaty, or the formation of a new civilian government.[13]
There is a dispute as to whether, and if so to what extent, Israel is an occupying power in relation to the Palestinian territories.
There is also a dispute as to whether Israeli settlements in these territories are in breach of Israel's obligations as an occupying power and constitute a grave breach of the Geneva Conventions and whether the settlements constitute war crimes
What might that "international law" be?I'm a liberal but I support International Law which the settlers are in violation of.
Israeli-occupied territories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaIsrael's annexation of East Jerusalem in 1980[5] and the Golan Heights in 1981[6] has not been recognised by any other country.[7][8] United Nations Security Council Resolution 478 declared the annexation of Jerusalem "null and void" and required that it be rescinded. Following withdrawal by Israel from the Sinai Peninsula in 1982, as part of the 1979 Israel–Egypt Peace Treaty, that territory ceased to be considered occupied territory. Israel unilaterally disengaged from Gaza in September 2005, and declared itself no longer to be in occupation of the Strip. However, as it retains control of Gaza's airspace and coastline, it continues to be designated as an occupying power in the Gaza Strip by the some countries and various human rights organizations
The significance of the designation of these territories as occupied territory is that certain legal obligations fall on the occupying power under international law. Under international law there are certain laws of war governing military occupation, including the Hague Conventions of 1899 and 1907 and the Fourth Geneva Convention.[12] One of those obligations is to maintain the status quo until the signing of a peace treaty, the resolution of specific conditions outlined in a peace treaty, or the formation of a new civilian government.[13]
There is a dispute as to whether, and if so to what extent, Israel is an occupying power in relation to the Palestinian territories.
There is also a dispute as to whether Israeli settlements in these territories are in breach of Israel's obligations as an occupying power and constitute a grave breach of the Geneva Conventions and whether the settlements constitute war crimes
The British Mandate recognized the right of the Jewish people to "close settlement" in the whole of the Mandated territory [Palestine]. The Jewish right of settlement in Palestine west of the Jordan river, that is, in Israel, the West Bank, Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip, was made unassailable. That right has never been terminated and cannot be terminated except by a recognized peace between Israel and its neighbors. And perhaps not even then, in view of Article 80 of the U.N. Charter, "the Palestine article," which provides that "nothing in the Charter shall be construed ... to alter in any manner the rights whatsoever of any states or any peoples or the terms of existing international instruments...."
The mandate implicitly denies Arab claims to national political rights in the area in favor of the Jews; the mandated territory was in effect reserved to the Jewish people for their self-determination and political development, in acknowledgment of the historic connection of the Jewish people to the land. Lord Curzon, who was then the British Foreign Minister, made this reading of the mandate explicit. There remains simply the theory that the Arab inhabitants of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip have an inherent 'natural law' claim to the area. Neither customary international law nor the United Nations Charter acknowledges that every group of people claiming to be a nation has the right to a state of its own."
Resolved: are the settlements legal? Israeli West Bank policies
sicWikipedia not a legal authority
Wikipedia is an on-line encyclopedia that gives links to the law
Eugene V. Rostow '37: Dean, Scholar, Statesman
Sterling Professor Emeritus of Law and Public Affairs Eugene V. Rostow, a former dean of Yale Law School and an influential scholar and government official, died on November 25, 2002, at age 89.
Born in Brooklyn, New York, and raised in New Haven, Rostow attended Yale, graduating Phi Beta Kappa at age 19, and then studied economics at Kings College, Oxford. He then returned to the United States and to Yale, graduating from the Yale Law School in 1937.
After a stint at a New York law firm, Rostow joined the Yale Law School faculty in 1938 and became a full professor in 1944. During World War II, he served in the Lend Lease Administration, overseeing the provision of supplies to American allies.
He was an early critic of the internment of Japanese Americans during World War II and, especially, of the Supreme Court decisions that validated the policy. His 1945 article in the Yale Law Journal criticizing those decisions became a foundational part of the movement to provide restitution to interned Japanese Americans
Rostow became dean of Yale Law School in 1955 and served until 1965. He oversaw a program to revamp the Law School's curriculum, bringing a more interdisciplinary approach to the study of law, as well as increasing the number of seminars and the opportunities for independent study. He also built up the school's endowment and recruited highly respected legal scholars to the faculty.
Current Yale Law School Dean Anthony T. Kronman said, "Much of the Yale Law School we now know--to which we have become so accustomed by the passage of time--was built or rebuilt during Gene's deanship years. Gene's intellect, will, and character were molding forces in the evolution of the modern Yale Law School, and his legacy is all about us. Gene Rostow was one of the Law School's great deans."
After his time in the deanship, Rostow again entered government service as undersecretary for political affairs from 1966 to 1969. He was the third-highest ranking official in Lyndon Johnson's State Department and became well known for his defense of America's policy in Vietnam. He firmly believed that the U.S. had treaty obligations to defend South Vietnam and a moral obligation to oppose the spread of communism. He also helped draft a crucial UN Security Council resolution on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
Returning to Yale Law School, Rostow was an expert on international security and disarmament. He wrote in the New York Times in 1969 that "a balance of power is the only possible foundation for peace." He advocated building up America's defense forces and was a founding member of the Committee on the Present Danger.
In 1981, he was appointed by President Ronald Reagan to direct the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency, making him the highest-ranking Democrat in the Reagan administration.
He became Sterling Professor Emeritus in 1984. His many books included Sovereign Prerogative, 1962; Law, Power and the Pursuit of Peace, 1968; The Ideal in Law, 1978; and Toward Managed Peace, 1993.
Settlements are illegal under international law although Israel disputes this.
This month, the Israeli Education Minister, Gideon Saar, strongly condemned the "price tag" policy conducted by extremist settlers.
"The price tag gangs that harass innocent people, damage property, attack Israeli soldiers and security forces, burn mosques and terrorise political opponents are a violent and dangerous cancerous growth that must be uprooted," he said.
BBC is not a right wing organization by any stretch of the imagination. They also said that the settlers were in violation of International Law.
BBC News - Concerns over rising settler violence in the West Bank
The facts are the facts.'Shameful' inaction
The United Nations says the number of attacks by extremist Jewish settlers on Palestinians resulting in either injury or damage to property has roughly tripled since 2009.
The UN says in 90% of complaints filed to the Israeli police by Palestinians against settlers, nobody is ever indicted.
In October, an Israeli army patrol was surrounded and assaulted by a group of extremist settlers in the West Bank.
Extremist settlers have set fire to West Bank mosques and daubed their walls with graffiti
The attack on the soldiers came after a Jewish teenager was arrested on suspicion of carrying out an arson attack on a Palestinian mosque.
BBC News - Concerns over rising settler violence in the West Bank
Settlements are illegal under international law although Israel disputes this.
This month, the Israeli Education Minister, Gideon Saar, strongly condemned the "price tag" policy conducted by extremist settlers.
"The price tag gangs that harass innocent people, damage property, attack Israeli soldiers and security forces, burn mosques and terrorise political opponents are a violent and dangerous cancerous growth that must be uprooted," he said.
The British Mandate recognized the right of the Jewish people to "close settlement" in the whole of the Mandated territory [Palestine]. The Jewish right of settlement in Palestine west of the Jordan river, that is, in Israel, the West Bank, Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip, was made unassailable. That right has never been terminated and cannot be terminated except by a recognized peace between Israel and its neighbors. And perhaps not even then, in view of Article 80 of the U.N. Charter, "the Palestine article," which provides that "nothing in the Charter shall be construed ... to alter in any manner the rights whatsoever of any states or any peoples or the terms of existing international instruments...."
The mandate implicitly denies Arab claims to national political rights in the area in favor of the Jews; the mandated territory was in effect reserved to the Jewish people for their self-determination and political development, in acknowledgment of the historic connection of the Jewish people to the land. Lord Curzon, who was then the British Foreign Minister, made this reading of the mandate explicit. There remains simply the theory that the Arab inhabitants of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip have an inherent 'natural law' claim to the area. Neither customary international law nor the United Nations Charter acknowledges that every group of people claiming to be a nation has the right to a state of its own."
Resolved: are the settlements legal? Israeli West Bank policies
BBC is not a right wing organization by any stretch of the imagination. They also said that the settlers were in violation of International Law.
BBC News - Concerns over rising settler violence in the West Bank
The facts are the facts.'Shameful' inaction
The United Nations says the number of attacks by extremist Jewish settlers on Palestinians resulting in either injury or damage to property has roughly tripled since 2009.
The UN says in 90% of complaints filed to the Israeli police by Palestinians against settlers, nobody is ever indicted.
In October, an Israeli army patrol was surrounded and assaulted by a group of extremist settlers in the West Bank.
Extremist settlers have set fire to West Bank mosques and daubed their walls with graffiti
The attack on the soldiers came after a Jewish teenager was arrested on suspicion of carrying out an arson attack on a Palestinian mosque.
Settlements are illegal under international law although Israel disputes this.
Many settlers believe they have a religious right to the land.
Eugene V. Rostow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaRostow was born on 25 August 1913 in Brooklyn, New York, a grandson of poor Jewish immigrants from the Russian Empire
BBC is not a right wing organization by any stretch of the imagination. They also said that the settlers were in violation of International Law.
BBC News - Concerns over rising settler violence in the West Bank
The facts are the facts.'Shameful' inaction
The United Nations says the number of attacks by extremist Jewish settlers on Palestinians resulting in either injury or damage to property has roughly tripled since 2009.
The UN says in 90% of complaints filed to the Israeli police by Palestinians against settlers, nobody is ever indicted.
In October, an Israeli army patrol was surrounded and assaulted by a group of extremist settlers in the West Bank.
Extremist settlers have set fire to West Bank mosques and daubed their walls with graffiti
The attack on the soldiers came after a Jewish teenager was arrested on suspicion of carrying out an arson attack on a Palestinian mosque.
The BBC leans left. However, unlike our media, they tend to report and not opine in their reporting.
You're a fucking idiot if you think the BBC is 'calling out settlers'. The BBC does not 'call out', it reports.
Moron.
I can always count on jillian, the liberal, "pro-occupation" poster. I'm a liberal but I support International Law which the settlers are in violation of. You ever heard of J Street jillian? They are an organization that isa reasonable/rational alternative to A1PAC. You should look into them. A1PAC, which all U.S. Presidential candidates have had to grovel to in the elections.Here's the clincher voiced by an israeli General:
BBC News - Concerns over rising settler violence in the West Bank
how many threads have you done about atrocities committed against israelis.
i'm not big on the settlements, but if they really wanted them to go away, they'd make a deal. no other country on the planet unilaterally gives in to people who lob missiles at them.
i'll be looking for your threads pointing out what the hamas and hezbollah terrorists do.
From the BBC article:It's a battle Dot Com. Two sides fight this battle and you sound like you just want the Jews to move back and await an attack. Oh, and give their protection away as well.
Brigadier General Alon said not enough had been done to tackle Jewish extremism referring to price tag attacks as "terror".
BBC is not a right wing organization by any stretch of the imagination. They also said that the settlers were in violation of International Law.
BBC News - Concerns over rising settler violence in the West Bank
The facts are the facts.
The BBC leans left. However, unlike our media, they tend to report and not opine in their reporting.
You're a fucking idiot if you think the BBC is 'calling out settlers'. The BBC does not 'call out', it reports.
Moron.
Has the BBC called out Britain's occupation of northern Ireland, shit-for-brains?