Ayn Rand on God

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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GS6vxb4H3M]YouTube - Ayn Rand - Faith vs Reason[/ame]

    "You are never called to prove a negative."
     
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    Who?? :lol:
     
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    Why do we care what Ayn Rand said on this subject?
     
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    It is important for the atheists here to understand their roots, just as the Christians here ought not to be ignorant of Judaism.
     
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    think maybe you can keep it in one laudatory thread so you don't annoy the bejezus out of us while you're elucidating?

    and given that i can't access youtube at work, is ayn rand suddenly the mother of atheism?
     
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    Suddenly? No, she's part of a long line of atheist thought originating in 19th-century Europe.

    But she brought Atheism to the masses in America like no other before her. This is a prime-time television discussion of Atheism in front of a live Audience from 30 years ago! Such a topic being discussed openly on television was almost unheard of back then.


    And I'm not certain why you would be annoyed by two small threads? There are a dozen or so threads on Christianity if you prefer...
     
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    The reason I object to that sentence is that is is misleading, in that it treats atheism as an ideology. Once can speak of the roots of libertarianism, or of Secular Humanism or of Christianity, but to speak of 'roots' of a personal non-belief in deity seems fallacious.
     
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    Atheism didn't just pop into existence out of thin air. It has a long tradition dating back to the early 19th Century that lives on today. Most of what Atheists argue today has been argued for several centuries now.

    Understanding the history of Atheism is like understanding the history of Biology...neither occurred in a vacuum. Studying Atheist philosophy also helps you avoid re-inventing the wheel.
     
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    I think it says much that the same arguments have been forwarded for centuries and theists still ignore them,.

    As I watch the video, most of what she is saying is what I would call a 'standard' collection of responses one expects from a reasoning atheist.
     
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    And that's the beauty of it. They are now standard because she went on TV in the ultra-religious 1950s and told America "This is why I'm an atheist, and this is why I'm right."

    Her arguments were used by philosophers in Europe for almost a century before she was born, but she brought those Arguments unabashedly to "A Christian Nation."
     

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