Ashli Babbitt’s shooter is—Lieutenant Michael Leroy Byrd.

[bripat9643]

...
And the consequence for Ashli Targetpractice was earning the first Darwin award for 2021.

I think we all can agree it was foolish for Ashli to go through the window after everyone else saw the cop pointing the gun, and everyone was yelling about how there was a gun being pointed.

But that does not negate the fact the cop committed murder since Ashlie was not a lethal threat to anyone.
The video clearly shows that the cop who shot was sticking his arm through a very dense barricade.

You can talk about where people were, the last steps they took, and what direction they happened to turn their heads at the time they were murdered, but that does not negate the premeditation, planning, and set-up for the murders -- including extensive travel plans and itineraries -- that took place leading up to the events of January 6.

"premeditation"? Who premeditated Babbit's death? How does that work out?

Cops were standing right next to Ashli as she attempted to climb through the window, and they felt no urgent need to arrest her. She could easily have been arrested at amy time. Therefore there was no valid reason to shoot her.

Those cops were told if they interfered they who be beaten up or killed... They were woefully outnumbered, if they arrested her they were putting themselves in untold danger...

The officer followed his training. To handcuff her was to leave his position and put himself and the people he was protecting in danger...

Told by whom? Every riot is a dangerous situation. What makes this one any difference other than the fact that NAZI thugs like you hate conservatives and believe any use of force against them is justified?

Police aren't trained to shoot people who aren't a threat to their lives.

how the f*** can you even say that they weren't a threat to the police officers lives they were blatantly attacking the officers screaming kill them kill them. There are plenty of videos of these f****** traitors calling for the officers to be killed and attacking them with various weapons. The officers have every right to open fire on the entire group. they showed remarkable constraint and that restraint is the only reason that several of these people are alive today.

They hadn't even touched those officers, and I have noticed any of them shouting "kill them." You're mixing difference events together and spouting horseshit.

View attachment 481427 View attachment 481428 View attachment 481430 View attachment 481431 View attachment 481432 You were saying?

We're talking only about the officers confronting Ashley Babbit. Officers who were 10,000 feet away are irrelevant.

Your pictures don't appear to show any serious violence, just pushing.

 

[bripat9643]

...
And the consequence for Ashli Targetpractice was earning the first Darwin award for 2021.

I think we all can agree it was foolish for Ashli to go through the window after everyone else saw the cop pointing the gun, and everyone was yelling about how there was a gun being pointed.

But that does not negate the fact the cop committed murder since Ashlie was not a lethal threat to anyone.
The video clearly shows that the cop who shot was sticking his arm through a very dense barricade.

You can talk about where people were, the last steps they took, and what direction they happened to turn their heads at the time they were murdered, but that does not negate the premeditation, planning, and set-up for the murders -- including extensive travel plans and itineraries -- that took place leading up to the events of January 6.

"premeditation"? Who premeditated Babbit's death? How does that work out?

Cops were standing right next to Ashli as she attempted to climb through the window, and they felt no urgent need to arrest her. She could easily have been arrested at amy time. Therefore there was no valid reason to shoot her.

Those cops were told if they interfered they who be beaten up or killed... They were woefully outnumbered, if they arrested her they were putting themselves in untold danger...

The officer followed his training. To handcuff her was to leave his position and put himself and the people he was protecting in danger...

Told by whom? Every riot is a dangerous situation. What makes this one any difference other than the fact that NAZI thugs like you hate conservatives and believe any use of force against them is justified?

Police aren't trained to shoot people who aren't a threat to their lives.

how the f*** can you even say that they weren't a threat to the police officers lives they were blatantly attacking the officers screaming kill them kill them. There are plenty of videos of these f****** traitors calling for the officers to be killed and attacking them with various weapons. The officers have every right to open fire on the entire group. they showed remarkable constraint and that restraint is the only reason that several of these people are alive today.

They hadn't even touched those officers, and I have noticed any of them shouting "kill them." You're mixing difference events together and spouting horseshit.

Through out this event there were calls for help, officer down, etc throughout the capitol, and plenty of video evidence of what that mob was doing to them.

We're talking only about the officers confronting Ashly Babbit.

This wasn't happening in a vacuum.

For the purposes of this discussion, it is. What was going 10,000 feet away is irrelevant.

 

[bripat9643]

Lets stop the personal attacks and stick to the subject.

There was at least one more barricade between the lobby and the House, so when Ashli tried to go from the Senate to the lobby, in no way was she any possible threat to any congress people.

You can see it in the video of the shooter, in the House, sticking his arm through openings in the House barricade.
There is no way Ashli could have gotten into the House if she had succeeded in getting into the lobby.

There was zero reason to shoot her.
If Ashli was a threat to the House, then the cops outside the doors and windows Ashli was trying to get through, would have stopped her.
They were literally at arms length from her.
They were not at all concerned that she was going through the window.
There knew there were congress people in the building any more, and there were still more barricades between her and the House floor.

So, the Capitol police should have just kept retreating and retreating and retreating? And the insurrectionists should have been allowed to destroy and pass barricade after barricade after barricade? When do you suggest this should have stopped?

At any point the police could have just started handcuffing and arresting for trespassing.
There was never any indication that they would have had any problem arresting any or all if they wanted to.
I do not know why they did not?
Police normally do arrest hundreds of people at a time.
It happened at Washington DC dozens of time.
During the Vietnam protests in DC, I was arrested along with thousands of others, many times.
There was never any justification for shooting.

If you watched the video of the entire riot from beginning to end, the Capitol police were GROSSLY outnumbered. Even while trying to be as calming as possible, several dozen of them were beaten by the mob. When you were in D.C. protesting the Viet Nam war, were protesters beating on the cops with bats, hockey sticks, flag poles and spraying bear spray at them? Did they come wearing tactical gear bearing plastic handcuffs?

The police are always outnumbered in any riot.

So you admit it was a riot. Progress.

Who has denied it? What it wasn't is an insurrection.

Oh yes it was an insurrection....a FAILED insurrection started by a FAILED orange slug.

Who has been charged with "insurrection?"

Stand by....charges (and arrests) are still happening. AND we've got some lawsuits by some Capitol cops too charging the orange slug with initiating a FAILED insurrection.

Any day now.....

True, we do have to wait....but at least cases have been started....arrests and charges have been made....and lawsuits have been filed.

No one will be charged with insurrection, moron. The chances of winning that case are indistinguishable from zero.

 

[bodecea]

...
And the consequence for Ashli Targetpractice was earning the first Darwin award for 2021.

I think we all can agree it was foolish for Ashli to go through the window after everyone else saw the cop pointing the gun, and everyone was yelling about how there was a gun being pointed.

But that does not negate the fact the cop committed murder since Ashlie was not a lethal threat to anyone.
The video clearly shows that the cop who shot was sticking his arm through a very dense barricade.

You can talk about where people were, the last steps they took, and what direction they happened to turn their heads at the time they were murdered, but that does not negate the premeditation, planning, and set-up for the murders -- including extensive travel plans and itineraries -- that took place leading up to the events of January 6.

"premeditation"? Who premeditated Babbit's death? How does that work out?

Cops were standing right next to Ashli as she attempted to climb through the window, and they felt no urgent need to arrest her. She could easily have been arrested at amy time. Therefore there was no valid reason to shoot her.

Those cops were told if they interfered they who be beaten up or killed... They were woefully outnumbered, if they arrested her they were putting themselves in untold danger...

The officer followed his training. To handcuff her was to leave his position and put himself and the people he was protecting in danger...

Told by whom? Every riot is a dangerous situation. What makes this one any difference other than the fact that NAZI thugs like you hate conservatives and believe any use of force against them is justified?

Police aren't trained to shoot people who aren't a threat to their lives.

how the f*** can you even say that they weren't a threat to the police officers lives they were blatantly attacking the officers screaming kill them kill them. There are plenty of videos of these f****** traitors calling for the officers to be killed and attacking them with various weapons. The officers have every right to open fire on the entire group. they showed remarkable constraint and that restraint is the only reason that several of these people are alive today.

They hadn't even touched those officers, and I have noticed any of them shouting "kill them." You're mixing difference events together and spouting horseshit.

Through out this event there were calls for help, officer down, etc throughout the capitol, and plenty of video evidence of what that mob was doing to them.

We're talking only about the officers confronting Ashly Babbit.

This wasn't happening in a vacuum.

For the purposes of this discussion, it is. What was going 10,000 feet away is irrelevant.

Nope...it was all one riotous insurrection.

 

[justinacolmena]

Link to the family and medical examiner saying what you claim, please.

Well no shit. We've got a medical examiner to deliver a coroner's verdict so the family can have "closure."

Five Mafia Families Open Rosters to New Members (Published 1976)

Law enforcement officials disclose that for 1st time since '57, NY met area's 5 Mafia 'families' have been authorized by natl Mafia comm to initiate new members; other disclosures noted (M)

www.nytimes.com

When The Commission Thwarted Carlo Gambino's Efforts To Keep Membership Books Closed

In 1976, new members started to be made, when Carlo Gambino was suffering the physical effects of severe heart problems

www.cosanostranews.com

 

[bripat9643]

Regardless of her size, Ashli was the first one through the window making her an immediate threat.
Nobody followed because a message was sent

So there was no "charge through the window"? I wish all your lies were so easy to debunk.
And how about retracting your second lie.
Ashli Babbitt never made it through that window. New videos capture fatal shooting of Ashli Babbitt during Capitol siege

She was in the process of climbing through when she was shot. Now you are just arguing semantics.

Doesn't matter.
It would have been just as easy to handcuff her as to shoot her.
So there was no need to shoot.
Shooting is only legal in self defense from a deadly threat.
That did not exist, so then shooting was not legal.

They assaulted other officers and one officer was killed... This was a large mob, she was warned...

He could handcuffed her and not be grabbed by the crowd... He is trained to stay a safe distance away...

The officer was not killed, NAZI. He died of natural causes. Hundreds of police officers were assaulted in Portland and Seattle.

He did not die of natural causes. It's amazing how much orange cultists are willing to lie and delude themselves.

Per the family and the medical examiner it was natural causes. Lying comes naturally to you. Where's your fire extinguisher proof? Nowhere.

Link to the family and medical examiner saying what you claim, please.

https://meaww.com/capitol-officer-brian-sicknick-mother-gladys-son-died-stroke-not-fire-extinguisher-riots​

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How did Brian Sicknick die? Capitol cop's family thinks 'he had a stroke' and was not hit by fire extinguisher​

"thinks" That's what you've got? And I expect that anyone getting hit in the head with a fire extinguisher would end up with something that looked like a stroke....brain damage.

He didn't get hit in the head with a fire extinguisher, NAZI. How many times do you numbskulls have to educated before you drop your bogus narratives?

 

[Coyote]

...
And the consequence for Ashli Targetpractice was earning the first Darwin award for 2021.

I think we all can agree it was foolish for Ashli to go through the window after everyone else saw the cop pointing the gun, and everyone was yelling about how there was a gun being pointed.

But that does not negate the fact the cop committed murder since Ashlie was not a lethal threat to anyone.
The video clearly shows that the cop who shot was sticking his arm through a very dense barricade.

You can talk about where people were, the last steps they took, and what direction they happened to turn their heads at the time they were murdered, but that does not negate the premeditation, planning, and set-up for the murders -- including extensive travel plans and itineraries -- that took place leading up to the events of January 6.

"premeditation"? Who premeditated Babbit's death? How does that work out?

Cops were standing right next to Ashli as she attempted to climb through the window, and they felt no urgent need to arrest her. She could easily have been arrested at amy time. Therefore there was no valid reason to shoot her.

Those cops were told if they interfered they who be beaten up or killed... They were woefully outnumbered, if they arrested her they were putting themselves in untold danger...

The officer followed his training. To handcuff her was to leave his position and put himself and the people he was protecting in danger...

Told by whom? Every riot is a dangerous situation. What makes this one any difference other than the fact that NAZI thugs like you hate conservatives and believe any use of force against them is justified?

Police aren't trained to shoot people who aren't a threat to their lives.

how the f*** can you even say that they weren't a threat to the police officers lives they were blatantly attacking the officers screaming kill them kill them. There are plenty of videos of these f****** traitors calling for the officers to be killed and attacking them with various weapons. The officers have every right to open fire on the entire group. they showed remarkable constraint and that restraint is the only reason that several of these people are alive today.

They hadn't even touched those officers, and I have noticed any of them shouting "kill them." You're mixing difference events together and spouting horseshit.

View attachment 481427 View attachment 481428 View attachment 481430 View attachment 481431 View attachment 481432 You were saying?

We're talking only about the officers confronting Ashley Babbit. Officers who were 10,000 feet away are irrelevant.

Your pictures don't appear to show any serious violence, just pushing.

There is a violent mob of hundreds of people rampaging through the capitol and you're attempting to say it's irrelevant. It's not irrelevant when the police are vastly outnumbered and there is no knowing when or where another part of the mob will enter the scene engage them. You're really grasping at straws.

 

[justinacolmena]

Nope...it was all one riotous insurrection.

You need a Bible verse.

Wisdom of Solomon 1:9 KJV - For inquisition shall be made into the counsels of the ungodly: and the sound of his words shall come unto the Lord for the manifestation of his wicked deeds.

Wisdom of Solomon 1:9 King James Version KJV For inquisition shall be made into the counsels of the ungodly: and the sound of his words shall come unto the Lord for the manifestation of his wicked deeds.

thekingjamesversionbible.com

 

[bripat9643]

...
And the consequence for Ashli Targetpractice was earning the first Darwin award for 2021.

I think we all can agree it was foolish for Ashli to go through the window after everyone else saw the cop pointing the gun, and everyone was yelling about how there was a gun being pointed.

But that does not negate the fact the cop committed murder since Ashlie was not a lethal threat to anyone.
The video clearly shows that the cop who shot was sticking his arm through a very dense barricade.

You can talk about where people were, the last steps they took, and what direction they happened to turn their heads at the time they were murdered, but that does not negate the premeditation, planning, and set-up for the murders -- including extensive travel plans and itineraries -- that took place leading up to the events of January 6.

"premeditation"? Who premeditated Babbit's death? How does that work out?

Cops were standing right next to Ashli as she attempted to climb through the window, and they felt no urgent need to arrest her. She could easily have been arrested at amy time. Therefore there was no valid reason to shoot her.

Those cops were told if they interfered they who be beaten up or killed... They were woefully outnumbered, if they arrested her they were putting themselves in untold danger...

The officer followed his training. To handcuff her was to leave his position and put himself and the people he was protecting in danger...

Told by whom? Every riot is a dangerous situation. What makes this one any difference other than the fact that NAZI thugs like you hate conservatives and believe any use of force against them is justified?

Police aren't trained to shoot people who aren't a threat to their lives.

how the f*** can you even say that they weren't a threat to the police officers lives they were blatantly attacking the officers screaming kill them kill them. There are plenty of videos of these f****** traitors calling for the officers to be killed and attacking them with various weapons. The officers have every right to open fire on the entire group. they showed remarkable constraint and that restraint is the only reason that several of these people are alive today.

They hadn't even touched those officers, and I have noticed any of them shouting "kill them." You're mixing difference events together and spouting horseshit.

Through out this event there were calls for help, officer down, etc throughout the capitol, and plenty of video evidence of what that mob was doing to them.

We're talking only about the officers confronting Ashly Babbit.

This wasn't happening in a vacuum.

For the purposes of this discussion, it is. What was going 10,000 feet away is irrelevant.

Nope...it was all one riotous insurrection.

ROFL! A theory with no visible means of support. That's your way of blaming everyone who was there for anything any other person did. It's the tactic of a stalinist scumbag.

 

[bodecea]

Lets stop the personal attacks and stick to the subject.

There was at least one more barricade between the lobby and the House, so when Ashli tried to go from the Senate to the lobby, in no way was she any possible threat to any congress people.

You can see it in the video of the shooter, in the House, sticking his arm through openings in the House barricade.
There is no way Ashli could have gotten into the House if she had succeeded in getting into the lobby.

There was zero reason to shoot her.
If Ashli was a threat to the House, then the cops outside the doors and windows Ashli was trying to get through, would have stopped her.
They were literally at arms length from her.
They were not at all concerned that she was going through the window.
There knew there were congress people in the building any more, and there were still more barricades between her and the House floor.

So, the Capitol police should have just kept retreating and retreating and retreating? And the insurrectionists should have been allowed to destroy and pass barricade after barricade after barricade? When do you suggest this should have stopped?

At any point the police could have just started handcuffing and arresting for trespassing.
There was never any indication that they would have had any problem arresting any or all if they wanted to.
I do not know why they did not?
Police normally do arrest hundreds of people at a time.
It happened at Washington DC dozens of time.
During the Vietnam protests in DC, I was arrested along with thousands of others, many times.
There was never any justification for shooting.

If you watched the video of the entire riot from beginning to end, the Capitol police were GROSSLY outnumbered. Even while trying to be as calming as possible, several dozen of them were beaten by the mob. When you were in D.C. protesting the Viet Nam war, were protesters beating on the cops with bats, hockey sticks, flag poles and spraying bear spray at them? Did they come wearing tactical gear bearing plastic handcuffs?

The police are always outnumbered in any riot.

So you admit it was a riot. Progress.

Who has denied it? What it wasn't is an insurrection.

Oh yes it was an insurrection....a FAILED insurrection started by a FAILED orange slug.

Who has been charged with "insurrection?"

Stand by....charges (and arrests) are still happening. AND we've got some lawsuits by some Capitol cops too charging the orange slug with initiating a FAILED insurrection.

Any day now.....

True, we do have to wait....but at least cases have been started....arrests and charges have been made....and lawsuits have been filed.

No one will be charged with insurrection, moron. The chances of winning that case are indistinguishable from zero.

We'll see, won't we?

 

[Coyote]

...
And the consequence for Ashli Targetpractice was earning the first Darwin award for 2021.

I think we all can agree it was foolish for Ashli to go through the window after everyone else saw the cop pointing the gun, and everyone was yelling about how there was a gun being pointed.

But that does not negate the fact the cop committed murder since Ashlie was not a lethal threat to anyone.
The video clearly shows that the cop who shot was sticking his arm through a very dense barricade.

You can talk about where people were, the last steps they took, and what direction they happened to turn their heads at the time they were murdered, but that does not negate the premeditation, planning, and set-up for the murders -- including extensive travel plans and itineraries -- that took place leading up to the events of January 6.

"premeditation"? Who premeditated Babbit's death? How does that work out?

Cops were standing right next to Ashli as she attempted to climb through the window, and they felt no urgent need to arrest her. She could easily have been arrested at amy time. Therefore there was no valid reason to shoot her.

Those cops were told if they interfered they who be beaten up or killed... They were woefully outnumbered, if they arrested her they were putting themselves in untold danger...

The officer followed his training. To handcuff her was to leave his position and put himself and the people he was protecting in danger...

Told by whom? Every riot is a dangerous situation. What makes this one any difference other than the fact that NAZI thugs like you hate conservatives and believe any use of force against them is justified?

Police aren't trained to shoot people who aren't a threat to their lives.

how the f*** can you even say that they weren't a threat to the police officers lives they were blatantly attacking the officers screaming kill them kill them. There are plenty of videos of these f****** traitors calling for the officers to be killed and attacking them with various weapons. The officers have every right to open fire on the entire group. they showed remarkable constraint and that restraint is the only reason that several of these people are alive today.

They hadn't even touched those officers, and I have noticed any of them shouting "kill them." You're mixing difference events together and spouting horseshit.

Through out this event there were calls for help, officer down, etc throughout the capitol, and plenty of video evidence of what that mob was doing to them.

We're talking only about the officers confronting Ashly Babbit.

This wasn't happening in a vacuum.

For the purposes of this discussion, it is. What was going 10,000 feet away is irrelevant.

That's the definition of insanity.

 

[bodecea]

Nope...it was all one riotous insurrection.

You need a Bible verse.

Wisdom of Solomon 1:9 KJV - For inquisition shall be made into the counsels of the ungodly: and the sound of his words shall come unto the Lord for the manifestation of his wicked deeds.

Wisdom of Solomon 1:9 King James Version KJV For inquisition shall be made into the counsels of the ungodly: and the sound of his words shall come unto the Lord for the manifestation of his wicked deeds.

thekingjamesversionbible.com

Who cares about the bible? It applies as much as Lord of the Rings in this case.

 

[bripat9643]

...
And the consequence for Ashli Targetpractice was earning the first Darwin award for 2021.

I think we all can agree it was foolish for Ashli to go through the window after everyone else saw the cop pointing the gun, and everyone was yelling about how there was a gun being pointed.

But that does not negate the fact the cop committed murder since Ashlie was not a lethal threat to anyone.
The video clearly shows that the cop who shot was sticking his arm through a very dense barricade.

You can talk about where people were, the last steps they took, and what direction they happened to turn their heads at the time they were murdered, but that does not negate the premeditation, planning, and set-up for the murders -- including extensive travel plans and itineraries -- that took place leading up to the events of January 6.

"premeditation"? Who premeditated Babbit's death? How does that work out?

Cops were standing right next to Ashli as she attempted to climb through the window, and they felt no urgent need to arrest her. She could easily have been arrested at amy time. Therefore there was no valid reason to shoot her.

Those cops were told if they interfered they who be beaten up or killed... They were woefully outnumbered, if they arrested her they were putting themselves in untold danger...

The officer followed his training. To handcuff her was to leave his position and put himself and the people he was protecting in danger...

Told by whom? Every riot is a dangerous situation. What makes this one any difference other than the fact that NAZI thugs like you hate conservatives and believe any use of force against them is justified?

Police aren't trained to shoot people who aren't a threat to their lives.

how the f*** can you even say that they weren't a threat to the police officers lives they were blatantly attacking the officers screaming kill them kill them. There are plenty of videos of these f****** traitors calling for the officers to be killed and attacking them with various weapons. The officers have every right to open fire on the entire group. they showed remarkable constraint and that restraint is the only reason that several of these people are alive today.

They hadn't even touched those officers, and I have noticed any of them shouting "kill them." You're mixing difference events together and spouting horseshit.

View attachment 481427 View attachment 481428 View attachment 481430 View attachment 481431 View attachment 481432 You were saying?

We're talking only about the officers confronting Ashley Babbit. Officers who were 10,000 feet away are irrelevant.

Your pictures don't appear to show any serious violence, just pushing.

There is a violent mob of hundreds of people rampaging through the capitol and you're attempting to say it's irrelevant. It's not irrelevant when the police are vastly outnumbered and there is no knowing when or where another part of the mob will enter the scene engage them. You're really grasping at straws.

It is irrelevant when we're talking about whether that particular cop's like is in danger.

Your theory of law is utterly absurd.

 

[bripat9643]

...
And the consequence for Ashli Targetpractice was earning the first Darwin award for 2021.

I think we all can agree it was foolish for Ashli to go through the window after everyone else saw the cop pointing the gun, and everyone was yelling about how there was a gun being pointed.

But that does not negate the fact the cop committed murder since Ashlie was not a lethal threat to anyone.
The video clearly shows that the cop who shot was sticking his arm through a very dense barricade.

You can talk about where people were, the last steps they took, and what direction they happened to turn their heads at the time they were murdered, but that does not negate the premeditation, planning, and set-up for the murders -- including extensive travel plans and itineraries -- that took place leading up to the events of January 6.

"premeditation"? Who premeditated Babbit's death? How does that work out?

Cops were standing right next to Ashli as she attempted to climb through the window, and they felt no urgent need to arrest her. She could easily have been arrested at amy time. Therefore there was no valid reason to shoot her.

Those cops were told if they interfered they who be beaten up or killed... They were woefully outnumbered, if they arrested her they were putting themselves in untold danger...

The officer followed his training. To handcuff her was to leave his position and put himself and the people he was protecting in danger...

Told by whom? Every riot is a dangerous situation. What makes this one any difference other than the fact that NAZI thugs like you hate conservatives and believe any use of force against them is justified?

Police aren't trained to shoot people who aren't a threat to their lives.

how the f*** can you even say that they weren't a threat to the police officers lives they were blatantly attacking the officers screaming kill them kill them. There are plenty of videos of these f****** traitors calling for the officers to be killed and attacking them with various weapons. The officers have every right to open fire on the entire group. they showed remarkable constraint and that restraint is the only reason that several of these people are alive today.

They hadn't even touched those officers, and I have noticed any of them shouting "kill them." You're mixing difference events together and spouting horseshit.

Through out this event there were calls for help, officer down, etc throughout the capitol, and plenty of video evidence of what that mob was doing to them.

We're talking only about the officers confronting Ashly Babbit.

This wasn't happening in a vacuum.

For the purposes of this discussion, it is. What was going 10,000 feet away is irrelevant.

That's the definition of insanity.

ROFL! You're the one who is spouting insanity. You dont' get to blame Ashly Babbit for anything going on in any part of the capitol. That's the tactic of a NAZI.

 

[bodecea]

...
And the consequence for Ashli Targetpractice was earning the first Darwin award for 2021.

I think we all can agree it was foolish for Ashli to go through the window after everyone else saw the cop pointing the gun, and everyone was yelling about how there was a gun being pointed.

But that does not negate the fact the cop committed murder since Ashlie was not a lethal threat to anyone.
The video clearly shows that the cop who shot was sticking his arm through a very dense barricade.

You can talk about where people were, the last steps they took, and what direction they happened to turn their heads at the time they were murdered, but that does not negate the premeditation, planning, and set-up for the murders -- including extensive travel plans and itineraries -- that took place leading up to the events of January 6.

"premeditation"? Who premeditated Babbit's death? How does that work out?

Cops were standing right next to Ashli as she attempted to climb through the window, and they felt no urgent need to arrest her. She could easily have been arrested at amy time. Therefore there was no valid reason to shoot her.

Those cops were told if they interfered they who be beaten up or killed... They were woefully outnumbered, if they arrested her they were putting themselves in untold danger...

The officer followed his training. To handcuff her was to leave his position and put himself and the people he was protecting in danger...

Told by whom? Every riot is a dangerous situation. What makes this one any difference other than the fact that NAZI thugs like you hate conservatives and believe any use of force against them is justified?

Police aren't trained to shoot people who aren't a threat to their lives.

how the f*** can you even say that they weren't a threat to the police officers lives they were blatantly attacking the officers screaming kill them kill them. There are plenty of videos of these f****** traitors calling for the officers to be killed and attacking them with various weapons. The officers have every right to open fire on the entire group. they showed remarkable constraint and that restraint is the only reason that several of these people are alive today.

They hadn't even touched those officers, and I have noticed any of them shouting "kill them." You're mixing difference events together and spouting horseshit.

Through out this event there were calls for help, officer down, etc throughout the capitol, and plenty of video evidence of what that mob was doing to them.

We're talking only about the officers confronting Ashly Babbit.

This wasn't happening in a vacuum.

For the purposes of this discussion, it is. What was going 10,000 feet away is irrelevant.

That's the definition of insanity.

ROFL! You're the one who is spouting insanity. You dont' get to blame Ashly Babbit for anything going on in any part of the capitol. That's the tactic of a NAZI.

A serious question: Is someone paying you everytime you post the word NAZI here?

 

[justinacolmena]

That's the definition of insanity.

The medieval racks and instruments of torture need to be removed from the nation's mental hospitals before you even start on the path of legal insanity.

One of the most painful form of medieval torture- the rack

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[Coyote]

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And the consequence for Ashli Targetpractice was earning the first Darwin award for 2021.

I think we all can agree it was foolish for Ashli to go through the window after everyone else saw the cop pointing the gun, and everyone was yelling about how there was a gun being pointed.

But that does not negate the fact the cop committed murder since Ashlie was not a lethal threat to anyone.
The video clearly shows that the cop who shot was sticking his arm through a very dense barricade.

You can talk about where people were, the last steps they took, and what direction they happened to turn their heads at the time they were murdered, but that does not negate the premeditation, planning, and set-up for the murders -- including extensive travel plans and itineraries -- that took place leading up to the events of January 6.

"premeditation"? Who premeditated Babbit's death? How does that work out?

Cops were standing right next to Ashli as she attempted to climb through the window, and they felt no urgent need to arrest her. She could easily have been arrested at amy time. Therefore there was no valid reason to shoot her.

Those cops were told if they interfered they who be beaten up or killed... They were woefully outnumbered, if they arrested her they were putting themselves in untold danger...

The officer followed his training. To handcuff her was to leave his position and put himself and the people he was protecting in danger...

Told by whom? Every riot is a dangerous situation. What makes this one any difference other than the fact that NAZI thugs like you hate conservatives and believe any use of force against them is justified?

Police aren't trained to shoot people who aren't a threat to their lives.

how the f*** can you even say that they weren't a threat to the police officers lives they were blatantly attacking the officers screaming kill them kill them. There are plenty of videos of these f****** traitors calling for the officers to be killed and attacking them with various weapons. The officers have every right to open fire on the entire group. they showed remarkable constraint and that restraint is the only reason that several of these people are alive today.

They hadn't even touched those officers, and I have noticed any of them shouting "kill them." You're mixing difference events together and spouting horseshit.

Through out this event there were calls for help, officer down, etc throughout the capitol, and plenty of video evidence of what that mob was doing to them.

We're talking only about the officers confronting Ashly Babbit.

This wasn't happening in a vacuum.

For the purposes of this discussion, it is. What was going 10,000 feet away is irrelevant.

That's the definition of insanity.

ROFL! You're the one who is spouting insanity. You dont' get to blame Ashly Babbit for anything going on in any part of the capitol. That's the tactic of a NAZI.

Nazi's have nothing to do with this (and neither does Stalin). You're trying to take one discrete part (the portion where Ashli led the mob through the window) of a whole (the mob overrunning the capital) and pretend that the whole has no bearing on that one moment. But it does. There is no way the police, listening to what is going on around them within the capital, hearing about officers beaten by the mob, a mob that is roaming through the building largely unchecked, would be operating on the assumption that this one portion of the mob is all they need to be concerned with.

You seem to think that the officer should have...what, engaged in hand to hand combat with her (leaving a hole in their defenses for the rest of the mob to exploit?). If she had been a big burly Antifa guy you KNOW you wouldn't be defending him

 

[Faun]

Lets stop the personal attacks and stick to the subject.

There was at least one more barricade between the lobby and the House, so when Ashli tried to go from the Senate to the lobby, in no way was she any possible threat to any congress people.

You can see it in the video of the shooter, in the House, sticking his arm through openings in the House barricade.
There is no way Ashli could have gotten into the House if she had succeeded in getting into the lobby.

There was zero reason to shoot her.
If Ashli was a threat to the House, then the cops outside the doors and windows Ashli was trying to get through, would have stopped her.
They were literally at arms length from her.
They were not at all concerned that she was going through the window.
There knew there were congress people in the building any more, and there were still more barricades between her and the House floor.

You're lying again. Had that mob busted through those doors, the only "barricade" between them and the lawmakers still inside the House chamber were armed police.

Totally false.
Again, watch the video of the shooter from inside the House chamber.
He clearly is leaning into the barricade in order to get his arm and gun through the barricade, so he can get a clear shot of the lobby that Ashli is about to try to enter.

This is a different House door that was also barricaded, but shows how well the House was protected and that Ashli has no possibility of entering.

Not all the doors were barricaded like that. You're lying about how well barricaded that chamber was. That image of a barricaded door was the only door barricaded on the north side...

I've seen no images from the inside on the south side which is where Ashli Targetpractice was shot. The evidence that door where the cop was, was NOT barricaded is because he came out through that door and then slipped back. Something he could not have done had that door been barricaded.

Now stop lying.

 

[Faun]

...
And the consequence for Ashli Targetpractice was earning the first Darwin award for 2021.

I think we all can agree it was foolish for Ashli to go through the window after everyone else saw the cop pointing the gun, and everyone was yelling about how there was a gun being pointed.

But that does not negate the fact the cop committed murder since Ashlie was not a lethal threat to anyone.
The video clearly shows that the cop who shot was sticking his arm through a very dense barricade.

Actually, the American hero committed patriotism by defending the Speaker's chambers against unlawful violent terrorists! Babbitt and her thugs were committing TREASON to overthrow a lawful election that had been ratified by all states!

Wrong.
It is NOT treason to believe voter fraud and to try to get media attention with a protest.
The fact she was wrong about the election is irrelevant.

You're lying again. They stormed the Capitol to "stop the steal."

 

[Coyote]

...
And the consequence for Ashli Targetpractice was earning the first Darwin award for 2021.

I think we all can agree it was foolish for Ashli to go through the window after everyone else saw the cop pointing the gun, and everyone was yelling about how there was a gun being pointed.

But that does not negate the fact the cop committed murder since Ashlie was not a lethal threat to anyone.
The video clearly shows that the cop who shot was sticking his arm through a very dense barricade.

You can talk about where people were, the last steps they took, and what direction they happened to turn their heads at the time they were murdered, but that does not negate the premeditation, planning, and set-up for the murders -- including extensive travel plans and itineraries -- that took place leading up to the events of January 6.

"premeditation"? Who premeditated Babbit's death? How does that work out?

Cops were standing right next to Ashli as she attempted to climb through the window, and they felt no urgent need to arrest her. She could easily have been arrested at amy time. Therefore there was no valid reason to shoot her.

Those cops were told if they interfered they who be beaten up or killed... They were woefully outnumbered, if they arrested her they were putting themselves in untold danger...

The officer followed his training. To handcuff her was to leave his position and put himself and the people he was protecting in danger...

Told by whom? Every riot is a dangerous situation. What makes this one any difference other than the fact that NAZI thugs like you hate conservatives and believe any use of force against them is justified?

Police aren't trained to shoot people who aren't a threat to their lives.

how the f*** can you even say that they weren't a threat to the police officers lives they were blatantly attacking the officers screaming kill them kill them. There are plenty of videos of these f****** traitors calling for the officers to be killed and attacking them with various weapons. The officers have every right to open fire on the entire group. they showed remarkable constraint and that restraint is the only reason that several of these people are alive today.

They hadn't even touched those officers, and I have noticed any of them shouting "kill them." You're mixing difference events together and spouting horseshit.

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We're talking only about the officers confronting Ashley Babbit. Officers who were 10,000 feet away are irrelevant.

Your pictures don't appear to show any serious violence, just pushing.

There is a violent mob of hundreds of people rampaging through the capitol and you're attempting to say it's irrelevant. It's not irrelevant when the police are vastly outnumbered and there is no knowing when or where another part of the mob will enter the scene engage them. You're really grasping at straws.

It is irrelevant when we're talking about whether that particular cop's like is in danger.

Your theory of law is utterly absurd.

There is a mob that already (using equipment looted from fallen officers) - smashed the window in the door - a large window. The front person in the mob was climbing through, the rest were behind her.

There were...what...3 police officers there holding the fort from the angry mob.

But...their lives weren't in danger. You saw what the mob did to the police in those videos. Where do you come up with this crap?