As of today Trump up in 4 national polls: LA Times,IBD,PPD,Rassmussen

[320 Years of History]

• LA Times -- This is not a poll, it's a panel. There's a difference and it's meaningful.
• Rassmussen -- This group's poll has been discussed elsewhere on USMB

I performed (and linked above) the "due diligence" on Rasmussen's poll. Someone else can do it for IBD and PPD.

IBD's was the most accurate the past 3 presidential cycles. Not my opinion that's fact look it up.

What the heck does "most accurate" mean in your mind? I'm asking because whether a poll is accurate about a Presidential election comes down to being correct about what is basically a binary choice. How can one be more accurate than anyone else who makes the same choice? Everyone who chooses "heads" on a coin toss whereby the coin lands heads up is correct. There are no degrees of correctness in that situation.

They got the last 3 presidential races correct and were the closest to the final result.

Red:
Yes and no. Is it really just too much for you to get your facts straight and then fairly and completely present them.

IBD's was the most accurate the past 3 presidential cycles. Not my opinion that's fact look it up.

Seeing as you told us/me to go look it up, I would have thought, at the very least, that you'd accurately presented the facts so that if/when I did go "look it up," I would find no factual basis for taking exception with your remarks about the facts of IBD's predictive performance. And then I go look and find that, well, yes, mostly right, but not totally right, and that makes me, in turn, question the nature and extent to which you are willing to demonstrate even the most basic level of discursive integrity when commenting about or sharing information.

IBD are tied with Pew, and one cannot be "closest" when is tied with another. It's also impossible to be "the most" of something with which one is tied with another. One can, however, be among the "two most," "the two closest," or "three most," etc. (This goes directly to one of the points I made in a different thread about details mattering and knowing well what one is talking about.)

Are the inaccuracy and incompleteness of your comment above the most egregious error one might make? Of course, not. But we are talking about mathematical and statistical measures of performance, so it's not "nothing" or minor either. Now, I don't expect IBD's own spokespeople to call attention to that distinction and its relevance; they have a vested interest in seeming superlative. I do, however, expect folks who are sharing and discussing IBD's poll to be complete, candid and precise in that regard.

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Other:
Below is the most recent Pew survey result I have seen.

Currently, 41% of registered voters say they would vote for Hillary Clinton if the general election were held today, while 37% say they would vote for Donald Trump, 10% say they would vote for Gary Johnson and 4% say they would vote for Jill Stein.

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It can't be in reality tied with Pew when Pew was OFF in 2004 and 2008 by more than IBD was.

Red:
Okay....You just keep thinking that way. When you re-enroll in school and retake stats and quant, you come back and let us know if you still believe that to be a remark you're willing to stand by.

 

[Rexx Taylor]

Miss Cleo has just predicted that Trump will win all 57 states

 

[BluesLegend]

I polled everybody at the dinner table last night and the clown was beating the bulldyke 4 to 0. So why do I think he'll still lose?

If Hillary wins our family may beat up liberals until we feel better.

 

[320 Years of History]

but not all accounted for in the RCP totals! Funny how that is!

You notice not one alphabet network poll in the bunch....developing!

Should have listened to Dinah, she'd tell you what difference a day makes...

IBD's was the most accurate the past 3 presidential cycles. Not my opinion that's fact look it up.

IBD has Clinton up by three and rising. Is it still the most accurate poll?


Day 10 Results: Oct. 28

 

[NYcarbineer]

Hillary Clinton has led in the poll averages every day since July 31st. To have read these RWnut poll/troll threads around here over that time period,

you'd have thought she was behind that whole time.

 

[LoneLaugher]

So what do the individual battleground state numbers look like in these polls?

I keep asking that and never get an answer.

Or have we gone to a popular vote for presidential elections and no one told me?
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You aren't really asking...that's why you aren't getting an answer. Everyone knows that you are making a statement with that question. Everyone also knows that you are entirely capable of finding that info in about two seconds. You already know the answer, in fact.

It's odd that you'd feign confusion about that.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I polled everybody at the dinner table last night and the clown was beating the bulldyke 4 to 0. So why do I think he'll still lose?

If Hillary wins our family may beat up liberals until we feel better.

Video the beatings, big mouth.