Clementine
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Republicans are liars. They have no interest in voter fraud. What they DO have an intense interest in is voter SUPPRESSION. This is something they work at constantly. Intimidating minority voters at the polls. Making it difficult to register, changing rules, moving polling places, changing the hours. Doing everything possible to destroy Democratic voters' opportunity to simply vote. Republicans cannot win in an honest election.Yes, there are many problems with our voting system and it makes it all too easy for many to commit fraud. Only way to fix it is to start with updating voter rolls. Do away with motor voter registration and have people register on their own, providing all necessary ID when doing so. That way, only those who vote will bother to register and they will have to prove who they are in order to register.
Voter ID is more likely to encourage people to vote because they will feel that their vote actually counts instead of feeling like the duplicate voters, dead voters, illegal voters and other cheating will void their valid vote.
Anyone against updating voter rolls and double checking that all voters are legitimate likely want that room to cheat.
"If you have no idea what happened at the second meeting of President Donald Trump’s Advisory Commission on Election Integrity in New Hampshire on Sept. 12, I’m not surprised.
Though a horde of reporters attended the meeting, almost all of the media stories that emerged from it simply repeated the progressive left’s mantra that the Commission is a “sham.”
Almost no one covered the substantive and very concerning testimony of 10 expert witnesses on the problems that exist in our voter registration and election system.
The witnesses included academics, election lawyers, state election officials, data analysts, software experts, and computer scientists.
The existing and potential problems they exposed would give any American with any common sense and any concern for our democratic process cause for alarm.
The first panel included Dr. Andrew Smith of the University of New Hampshire, Kimball Brace of Election Data Services, Inc., and Dr. John Lott. They testified about historical election turnout statistics and the effects of election integrity issues on voter confidence.
Lott also testified that his statistical analyses show that contrary to the narrative myth pushed by some, voter ID does not depress voter turnout. In fact, there is some evidence that it may increase turnout because it increases public confidence in elections."
As Evidence of Election Fraud Emerges, the Media Wants to Keep You in the Dark
I'll say the same to you. Point out the incorrect stories in the link? Did those meetings not happen? Were those announcements not made.Just checked the link. You're right, Heritage Foundation hacks.The source is the conservative Heritage Foundation. Haha.
Laughable.
If you have a case to make, make it.
They use the favorite tactic of ignoring facts by attacking the messenger. Won't work. The meetings and testimony are real. But it doesn't fit the narrative so they refuse to even acknowledge it, let alone respond.
There were no facts presented. Mostly opinion. Even a statistical analysis can be fudged if bad data is put in. Also we had the smearing of New Hampshire. The statistics are meaningless as people who are domiciled in New Hampshire can vote and are not required to establish a residency. They have to show proof such as a current student id.
Some of the witnesses have a bias. I do not consider Heritage and Judicial Watch to be unbiased observers. Never mind the fact that Heritage has nowhere near 3 million illegal voting cases.
Some of the solutions are ridiculous. Kobach tried to match alleged voters who were registered in multiple states and ended up preventing people who were legitimate voters to be prevented from voting. Voter lists should not be shared between states.
The fact is that you are nowhere near 3 million illegal voters. That was the only purpose of this commission.
Sadly, the Dems have done everything possibly to shoot themselves in the foot. Corrupt DNC, awful candidates, etc. So they just end up giving elections to the GOP crooks.
But, cheating is the only way republicans know how to operate. Gerrymandered districts is the only reason why republicans can keep their House seats. It is the reason GOP reps don't have to govern responsibly or cooperate with others to get things done. Their cheating and conniving is what has made our government as dysfunctional as it is. They cheat, lie, and do everything possible to destroy our government, then they have the nerve to complain about our government not working.
The only way to change this is for Dems to get off their asses and show up to vote. They also have to actively work to root out corrupt politicians in their own party. But it's a waste of time trying to reason with republicans about voter fraud — they are the cause of it, up to their neck in it. And the fraud is working for them they don't want to change anything, except to find more and better ways to suppress the minority vote.
You are full of shit.
First, you make the incorrect assumption that only Dem voters are incapable of getting an ID or registering without help.
We know illegals voted. We also know why the left wants more illegals to flood in and get amnesty. They want power and they know they need to get more government dependents and others who feel entitled enough to support a socialist government.
The left also wants to do away with electoral voting once they believe a majority are ignorant, entitled dependents. That would ensure their power forever as long as they have more than half dependent on them.
The electoral system is designed to prevent us from becoming a true democracy. The left wants power, not a level playing field.
The left loses their shit at the thought of people needing to prove their identity for voting. We also have the right to own guns but look at the regulations imposed to make that difficult. In the case of voting, people should have to prove they are citizens. No one is buying the bullshit that minorities have a hard time getting an ID. Either the left is totally full of shit or you guys really do have a low opinion of minorities.