Arizona Republicans have a plan to make it easier to steal a presidential election

[ESay]

Or a person who doesn't pay taxes for a certain period of time.

Like Trump??

If he hasn't paid the taxes for say three years then yes. Why not?

 

[Coyote]

, an able-bodied person who lives on state allowances for a certain period of time

Including people who are unemployed because of a pandemic or other factors beyond their controll?

There should be a certain period after which the voting right is lost. Three years, maybe.

What factors?

Sounds like you are trying to create an elitist group that is allowed to vote and force their will upon the less elite who have been disenfranchised. Let's just say screw voting and go back to a hereditary monarchy? At least that way we won't be pretending to be a representative democracy any more.

 

[ESay]

, an able-bodied person who lives on state allowances for a certain period of time

Including people who are unemployed because of a pandemic or other factors beyond their controll?

There should be a certain period after which the voting right is lost. Three years, maybe.

What factors?

Sounds like you are trying to create an elitist group that is allowed to vote and force their will upon the less elite who have been disenfranchised. Let's just say screw voting and go back to a hereditary monarchy? At least that way we won't be pretending to be a representative democracy any more.

Why elitist? This wont have anything to do with heredity or even the level of income per se. Just work, pay taxes or give some other input to society you live in and you will have a say.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

, an able-bodied person who lives on state allowances for a certain period of time

Including people who are unemployed because of a pandemic or other factors beyond their controll?

There should be a certain period after which the voting right is lost. Three years, maybe.

What factors?

You ask what other factors?? Now your just playing games

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

, an able-bodied person who lives on state allowances for a certain period of time

Including people who are unemployed because of a pandemic or other factors beyond their controll?

There should be a certain period after which the voting right is lost. Three years, maybe.

What factors?

Sounds like you are trying to create an elitist group that is allowed to vote and force their will upon the less elite who have been disenfranchised. Let's just say screw voting and go back to a hereditary monarchy? At least that way we won't be pretending to be a representative democracy any more.

Why elitist? This wont have anything to do with heredity or even the level of income per se. Just work, pay taxes or give some other input to society you live in and you will have a say.

By that criteria Trump would not be allowd to vote. He doesn't pay taxes, spent his presidence playing golf and bitching about his many grievences and contributed noth but mayhem and chaos

 

[Agit8r]

Tell us again which party wants to steal elections. Tell us again which part would respect the will of the people and believes in free and fair election. Tell us again which party wishes to preserve the integrity of our Representative Democracy.

Arizona Republicans have a plan to make it easier to steal a presidential election - Raw Story - Celebrating 16 Years of Independent Journalism

"The legislation would give state legislators the authority, by a majority vote, to 'revoke' the state certification of the presidential election in the state. Such a subversion of the democratic process was exactly what President Trump was pushing for in Arizona and other battleground states that elected Joe Biden."

Lets hear from those who think that this is a good idea. Who thinks that it is constitutional and why?

Yeah. The GOP has gone fully fascist. They don't even pretend not to be anymore.

 

[ESay]

, an able-bodied person who lives on state allowances for a certain period of time

Including people who are unemployed because of a pandemic or other factors beyond their controll?

There should be a certain period after which the voting right is lost. Three years, maybe.

What factors?

You ask what other factors?? Now your just playing games

What games, man? I asked you to specify what these factors can be. Is that so hard?

 

[ESay]

, an able-bodied person who lives on state allowances for a certain period of time

Including people who are unemployed because of a pandemic or other factors beyond their controll?

There should be a certain period after which the voting right is lost. Three years, maybe.

What factors?

Sounds like you are trying to create an elitist group that is allowed to vote and force their will upon the less elite who have been disenfranchised. Let's just say screw voting and go back to a hereditary monarchy? At least that way we won't be pretending to be a representative democracy any more.

Why elitist? This wont have anything to do with heredity or even the level of income per se. Just work, pay taxes or give some other input to society you live in and you will have a say.

By that criteria Trump would not be allowd to vote. He doesn't pay taxes, spent his presidence playing golf and bitching about his many grievences and contributed noth but mayhem and chaos

Dont try to spin it around Trump. I dont care much about him personally. If he doesn't meet the criteria, he shouldnt be able to vote. As anyone else.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

, an able-bodied person who lives on state allowances for a certain period of time

Including people who are unemployed because of a pandemic or other factors beyond their controll?

There should be a certain period after which the voting right is lost. Three years, maybe.

What factors?

You ask what other factors?? Now your just playing games

What games, man? I asked you to specify what these factors can be. Is that so hard?

OK, I'll play. Other factors would include the reality that there will always be unemployed people who can't find jobs, especially in a recession.It's a fact of Capitalism. . But you knew that already, didn't you? You idea is fucking stupid that I doubt Marjory Taylor Greene would support it. Trump might though. You can't just disenfranchile people by some arbitrary criteria. And can you immaging the nightmare of trying to enfoce it? Of having to verify the employment status of every vote for every election??. Beyond stupid, undemocratic, and unworkable.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

, an able-bodied person who lives on state allowances for a certain period of time

Including people who are unemployed because of a pandemic or other factors beyond their controll?

There should be a certain period after which the voting right is lost. Three years, maybe.

What factors?

Sounds like you are trying to create an elitist group that is allowed to vote and force their will upon the less elite who have been disenfranchised. Let's just say screw voting and go back to a hereditary monarchy? At least that way we won't be pretending to be a representative democracy any more.

Why elitist? This wont have anything to do with heredity or even the level of income per se. Just work, pay taxes or give some other input to society you live in and you will have a say.

By that criteria Trump would not be allowd to vote. He doesn't pay taxes, spent his presidence playing golf and bitching about his many grievences and contributed noth but mayhem and chaos

Dont try to spin it around Trump. I dont care much about him personally. If he doesn't meet the criteria, he shouldnt be able to vote. As anyone else.

How about the Proud Bois and the Oath Keepers who tried to subvert our democracy. Shit man, if there is anyone who should be stripped of their right to vote it is those who do not respect the system

 

[Bob Blaylock]

who tried to subvert our democracy.

How many stores have the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers looted and burned?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

who tried to subvert our democracy.

How many stores have the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers looted and burned?

They looted and ransacked the fucking United States of America's Capital! Do you approve of that? Yes or no?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

They looted and ransacked the fucking United States of America's Capital! Do you approve of that? Yes or no?

You have no evidence that they did any such thing. And even if they did, you're a huge hypocrite to fuss over that, after your side openly supported and defended the violent subhuman Black Lies Matter and Antifa pieces of shit as they committed mass acts of terrorism and criminality against law abiding Americans.

Do something about the huge beam in your own eye before you fuss about the tiny mote that you think that you see in someone else's eye.

 

[Coyote]

, an able-bodied person who lives on state allowances for a certain period of time

Including people who are unemployed because of a pandemic or other factors beyond their controll?

There should be a certain period after which the voting right is lost. Three years, maybe.

What factors?

Sounds like you are trying to create an elitist group that is allowed to vote and force their will upon the less elite who have been disenfranchised. Let's just say screw voting and go back to a hereditary monarchy? At least that way we won't be pretending to be a representative democracy any more.

Why elitist? This wont have anything to do with heredity or even the level of income per se. Just work, pay taxes or give some other input to society you live in and you will have a say.

It is an elite group therefore Elitist. It has decided that poor should be stripped of their right to vote. What could possibly go wrong?

 

[ESay]

, an able-bodied person who lives on state allowances for a certain period of time

Including people who are unemployed because of a pandemic or other factors beyond their controll?

There should be a certain period after which the voting right is lost. Three years, maybe.

What factors?

You ask what other factors?? Now your just playing games

What games, man? I asked you to specify what these factors can be. Is that so hard?

OK, I'll play. Other factors would include the reality that there will always be unemployed people who can't find jobs, especially in a recession.It's a fact of Capitalism. . But you knew that already, didn't you? You idea is fucking stupid that I doubt Marjory Taylor Greene would support it. Trump might though. You can't just disenfranchile people by some arbitrary criteria. And can you immaging the nightmare of trying to enfoce it? Of having to verify the employment status of every vote for every election??. Beyond stupid, undemocratic, and unworkable.

As I said above there should be a certain time limit. It doesn't mean if one loses a job, they automatically lose the voting rights.

Yes, verification is the main question in it. But I think the solution can be found considering the current level of digitalization.

 

[ESay]

, an able-bodied person who lives on state allowances for a certain period of time

Including people who are unemployed because of a pandemic or other factors beyond their controll?

There should be a certain period after which the voting right is lost. Three years, maybe.

What factors?

Sounds like you are trying to create an elitist group that is allowed to vote and force their will upon the less elite who have been disenfranchised. Let's just say screw voting and go back to a hereditary monarchy? At least that way we won't be pretending to be a representative democracy any more.

Why elitist? This wont have anything to do with heredity or even the level of income per se. Just work, pay taxes or give some other input to society you live in and you will have a say.

It is an elite group therefore Elitist. It has decided that poor should be stripped of their right to vote. What could possibly go wrong?

It is not. In this way elitist can be called everything. Inability to send kids to some universities because of high costs is also because of elitism. Or living in a certain neighborhoods.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

They looted and ransacked the fucking United States of America's Capital! Do you approve of that? Yes or no?

You have no evidence that they did any such thing. And even if they did, you're a huge hypocrite to fuss over that, after your side openly supported and defended the violent subhuman Black Lies Matter and Antifa pieces of shit as they committed mass acts of terrorism and criminality against law abiding Americans.

Do something about the huge beam in your own eye before you fuss about the tiny mote that you think that you see in someone else's eye.

 

[Coyote]

, an able-bodied person who lives on state allowances for a certain period of time

Including people who are unemployed because of a pandemic or other factors beyond their controll?

There should be a certain period after which the voting right is lost. Three years, maybe.

What factors?

Sounds like you are trying to create an elitist group that is allowed to vote and force their will upon the less elite who have been disenfranchised. Let's just say screw voting and go back to a hereditary monarchy? At least that way we won't be pretending to be a representative democracy any more.

Why elitist? This wont have anything to do with heredity or even the level of income per se. Just work, pay taxes or give some other input to society you live in and you will have a say.

It is an elite group therefore Elitist. It has decided that poor should be stripped of their right to vote. What could possibly go wrong?

It is not. In this way elitist can be called everything. Inability to send kids to some universities because of high costs is also because of elitism. Or living in a certain neighborhoods.

But neither of those involve fundamental democratic rights.

 

[Natural Citizen]

At least that way we won't be pretending to be a representative democracy any more.

Anyone who thinks America is a 'representative democracy' is in dire need of re-education anyway.

The health of our compound Republic is dependent upon it.

"A Democracy', whether it be a Representative Democracy or a Direct Democracy is a form of government premised upon the idea of rule by omnipotent Majority. In both instances, the Individual, and any group of Individuals composing any Minority, have no protection against the unlimited power of The Majority. It is a case of Majority-over-Man.

Learn it. Because you're spreading disinformation.

Start with the Federalist #51 and #45, by Madison.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

At least that way we won't be pretending to be a representative democracy any more.

Anyone who thinks America is a 'representative democracy' is in dire need of re-education anyway.

The health of our compound Republic is dependent upon it.

"A Democracy', whether it be a Representative Democracy or a Direct Democracy is a form of government premised upon the idea of rule by omnipotent Majority.

Learn it.

Really? Then what is it?