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...is; what will make you smarter-
1) hitting your head with a hammer
2) running head first into a brick wall
They will both make you smarter, just as believing in God will get you to an imaginary place for all of eternity.
If one's religion is based only on what the Bible says, Jesus is the "son of God" and it's never stated or insinuated that Jesus is God.
Before moses was, I AM
he who knows me knows the father
the whole father, dove, son scene
there are probably more out there, but that's all I can think of
Genesis: Let us make man in our image...The trinity was a non-Biblical creation of the Council of Nicea
OT: See ' the Angel of God' (capitalizationis important
NTL: Again, the whole dove scene where they talk about the holy spirit
I am a member of a Christian church.
Heresy! The bible only mentions one church, which is the body of christ
People, I should not know more about your religion than you do. This is pathetic- it's also why people stopped trying to convert me
Really?
In the Bible he's quoted talking about it 11 times and ~48 more in conjunction with money and how it leads you away from faith and to Hell.
Yes. There arent even that many references in the New Testament, let alone the Gospels.
And a number of them are mistranslations. There are several different words that translate to hell in English. Unfortunately, they all have real different meanings that are quite lost in our language simply because of ignorance.
Did your "Bible as Literature" class tell you that.
Most people seek refuge in "mistranslations" as if there's any such thing in the Bible. The Bible has been combed over so vehemently with such fine teeth that it is impossible for you to not be able to inform yourself about what Jesus was actually talking about.
And you have to be pretty asinine to believe that Seminary students do not know ancient Greek and Hebrew and are unable to discern these things for themselves and pass them on to us.
Or to write them in various study Bibles.
An interesting new article:
Christian Versus Follower of Jesus | Newsweek BeliefWatch: Lisa Miller | Newsweek.com
Now, as the Christian world continues to refine its identity, another label is gaining currency: "follower of Jesus." It is gaining among the young. On Facebook, more than 900 groups use some variation of "follower of Jesus." The tag is also popular among people in the so-called fellowship movementsmall, collegial groups that regularly meet for ecumenical prayer. (The weekly prayer breakfasts in Washingtonone for senators, another for members of the Houseare the most prominent example, but such fellowships are common at corporations too.) "Follower of Jesus" has at least two advantages over "Christian" or "evangelical," its boosters say. First, it doesn't carry baggage. You can wear it abroad, in Islamic countries, or at home with your Jewish or Buddhist friends, without causing offense. Second, it distances the bearer from the culture wars that have made American politics so divisive. David Durenberger, the former Republican senator from Minnesota, puts it this way. "As my party in particular has begun to characterize its base as 'Christian' and to express its values as 'Christian' values it has been really important to identify myself as a follower of Jesus." The syndicated columnist Cal Thomas adds that "follower of Jesus" has the virtue of reflecting biblical truth: the earliest Christians called themselves "followers of the Way."
While many Christians applaud this effort to transcend labels and history, some also worry that "follower of Jesus" diverts people from the fundamentals. "Two questions constantly come up," says Richard Mouw, president of Fuller Theological Seminary. "The first is Christology. What about the full divinity of Christ? How much can you keep that in the background? Second, what's the role of the church in all this?" Brehm admits, guiltily, that he left his longtime church five years ago and is still shopping. For the time being, he finds communion in regular meetings with fellow followers of Jesus: "That's real church." To accusations that he's letting identity politics overshadow Christian tradition, Brehm delivers what he believes to be his knockout punch: Jesus, after all, said, "Follow me."
Two questions really jump out for me here:
1)Why are people always trying to relabel themselves? Why are the ashamed of what they are?
2)Why do you want to keep the full divinity of Christ in background?
That was a very nice post, but it failed to address my question. Does being a Christian make you more 'moral' than other people?
I'm a Christian as well, and if you have accepted Jesus into your heart, asked for forgiveness and were baptized in His name, then it doesn't matter what label you give yourself.
i don't believe in it, but i believe jesus was a great teacher. if i'm wrong, i think he'll get over it.
Hi Del:
i don't believe in it, but i believe jesus was a great teacher. if i'm wrong, i think he'll get over it.
Wrong! Jesus Christ claims to be the "Only Begotten Son of God" (John 3:16), so He is either the "Son of God" like He claims (John 10:36, Rev. 2:18), OR 'he' is very much A LIAR eusa_liar. Period.
There is no room in the middle for Jesus Christ to be any mere 'teacher' . . .
GL,
Terral
Where is it said that the father and the son are the same being?Before moses was, I AM
he who knows me knows the father
the whole father, dove, son scene
there are probably more out there, but that's all I can think of
In the Qur'an, Allah "describes" Himself and His actions in the first person singular, the first person plural, and the third person singular. I'm assuming that the Hebrew language in the OT operated according to similar rules.Genesis: Let us make man in our image...
Again, why must it be assumed that the "son" and the "holy spirit" aren't distinct entities? Where is it said that they aren't?OT: See ' the Angel of God' (capitalizationis important
NTL: Again, the whole dove scene where they talk about the holy spirit
My religion isn't being discussed.People, I should not know more about your religion than you do.
are you a Christian or a follower of Christ
I hate followers. They stick folks in ovens and then they pretend it's normal. How smarmy, and unresolved. Blame and run. It's the Chrstian thing to do, after all. Look the other way, it's what Jesus would do.
HaShem (God) told us in the Torah, that He made mankind in His own image. But, if you look into the nature of God, you would also see that God is both male and female.
As far as only "one church"? Well.......might wanna look at that again as well. You DO realize that Jesus was Jewish, and worshiped in the Hebrew faith, and was killed when He went to visit the Temple during Passover celebration.
It implies that they are and are not. Different aspect of the same being or some shit, if I recallKalam;1178665In the Qur'an said:Islam is a whole other abomination
Certainly We have revealed to you a Book which will give you eminence. Do you not then understand?
...
And We created not the heaven and the earth and what is between them for sport.
Again, the plural aspect of deity which can be traced to Genesis 1. The point is that the claims there is no biblical grounds for the trinity are inaccurate
Again, why must it be assumed that the "son" and the "holy spirit" aren't distinct entities?OT: See ' the Angel of God' (capitalizationis important
NTL: Again, the whole dove scene where they talk about the holy spirit
I hate followers. They stick folks in ovens and then they pretend it's normal. How smarmy, and unresolved. Blame and run. It's the Chrstian thing to do, after all. Look the other way, it's what Jesus would do.
I am by no means a linguist, but i once read that YHWH (as rendered in contemporary English) can be construed as a combination of the past, present, and future forms of 'is'). Can you confirm?
it is also not supposed to be said except by priests
One I'm sure you're hopelessly ignorant of.Islam is a whole other abomination
Why? You used the example of plurals as an argument. The same language is used in a book that strictly forbids doctrines of divine multiplicity such as the trinity, meaning that it doesn't necessarhily imply that the OT "God" has partners.Again, the plural aspect of deity which can be traced to Genesis 1. The point is that the claims there is no biblical grounds for the trinity are inaccurate
How is that implied? Again, that was an invention of the Council of Nicea.It implies that tey are and are not. Different aspect of the same being or some shit, if I recall