Are you a Christian or a Follower of Christ?

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  1. Avatar4321
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    Avatar4321 Diamond Member Gold Supporting Member

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    An interesting new article:

    Christian Versus Follower of Jesus | Newsweek BeliefWatch: Lisa Miller | Newsweek.com

    Two questions really jump out for me here:

    1)Why are people always trying to relabel themselves? Why are the ashamed of what they are?

    2)Why do you want to keep the full divinity of Christ in background?
     
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    Perhaps they're ashamed of what Christianity has become. My guess is that they'd like to actually live by the moral teachings of Jesus as opposed to living amoral lifestyles and preaching fire and brimstone to whoever disagrees with them. I'm not sure... I don't know enough about the whole thing.

    If one's religion is based only on what the Bible says, Jesus is the "son of God" and it's never stated or insinuated that Jesus is God. The trinity was a non-Biblical creation of the Council of Nicea. Jesus being the son of God can either be interpreted literally, or if one doesn't subscribe to the doctrine of divine sonship, "son of god" can be taken metaphorically. Usage of the term throughout other areas of the Bible lends support to this position.

    See Wisdom of Solomon 2:18
    oremus Bible Browser : Wisdom 2:18

    Genesis 6:2-4
    oremus Bible Browser : Genesis 6:2-4

    Psalm 2
    oremus Bible Browser : Psalm 2

    etc.
     
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    I guarantee you these "followers of Jesus" are more immoral than Christians, because they are hippies, sent by leftist propaganda to tear down the Gospel and build up a false golden idol.

    They don't love Christ, they simply use him to "identify" with something "cool".
     
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    has anyone ever mentioned how judge fucking mental you are?
     
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    I'd drop the "judge" from the above and you'd be more on track.

    Evangelical is the reason people turn away from Christianity. I don't see anything in common with what Jesus appeared to be and Evangelical. I reckon Jesus would find Evangelical disgusting...
     
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    what would jesus think of this ??

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCDs9Vs2iYM[/ame]


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHFoUZEjuNM[/ame]

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_PAqT2JZOw[/ame]

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPb-PN9F2Pc[/ame]
     
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    Newby Does it get any better? Supporting Member

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    You are the type of 'Christian' that gives it a bad name. How can you say that you know anything about being a Christian whenever you imply that one person can be more 'moral' than another? Jesus taught that everyone walked in sin, everyone.
     
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    Christianity is a religion, and being a follower of Christ is about a personal relationship with God. I am a born again believer in God through Christ the Savior.

    I am a member of a Christian church.
     
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    I know about being a Christian because I am one. Someone who says they are a "follower of Jesus" is deliberately misrepresenting Christianity.

    Christianity believes in the living Church, which is the Body of Christ, a Christian is IN CHRIST.

    You cannot be IN CHRIST, if you are merely following him.

    In fact I heard an excellent sermon about the very difference of "following" and "being in Christ" the other day, the Pastor asking "are you in Christ" and teaching his lesson of what it means to be saved.

    You simply don't get it...

    Also a person can be more moral by sanctifying themselves as best they can. Christians recognize that being saved however has nothing to do with how good or pure you are.

    But, I explained that as well in my previous post.
     
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    First, Jesus finds no one disgusting.

    Second, Jesus talked more about Hell than he did any other individual topic.

    So what's your point?
     

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