Are Ukraine war casualties unimportant to you?

[jwoodie]

Will it have been worth it? For Ukraine, yes, for Russia, no.

As long as no Americans are killed? How empathetic of you.

 

[toomuchtime_]

As long as no Americans are killed? How empathetic of you.

Why would Americans be killed? This war is between Russia and Ukraine. Try to keep up.

 

[Ringo]

 

[Litwin]

about you sralin

 

[Silver Cat]

Why would Americans be killed? This war is between Russia and Ukraine. Try to keep up.

Technically, it's not a war, but a military operation. And no, it's between NATO+ and Shanghai block+. Ukraine is just one of the many battlefields.

 

[Silver Cat]

about you sralin

And who is the 'dead cattle' now? The Russians or Dudaev?

 

[toomuchtime_]

Technically, it's not a war, but a military operation. And no, it's between NATO+ and Shanghai block+. Ukraine is just one of the many battlefields.

Perhaps on your planet, but here on Earth, it's just a war between Russia and Ukraine.

 

[Silver Cat]

Perhaps on your planet, but here on Earth, it's just a war between Russia and Ukraine.

I don't known about your dimension, but here, on our version of Earth, both NATO and Shanghai block send money and weapons to those actually fighting sides, and that's why both of them can continue their fighting.

 

[toomuchtime_]

I don't known about your dimension, but here, on our version of Earth, both NATO and Shanghai block send money and weapons to those actually fighting sides, and that's why both of them can continue their fighting.

As always, you are full of shit. The so-called Shanghai block does not send money or weapons to Russia, and NATO does not send money or weapons to Ukraine, although many NATO members do. Russia is alone in its imperialist aggression in Ukraine . The only country that has publicly supported the invasion of Ukraine is North Korea.

 

[Silver Cat]

As always, you are full of shit. The so-called Shanghai block does not send money or weapons to Russia, and NATO does not send money or weapons to Ukraine, although many NATO members do. Russia is alone in its imperialist aggression in Ukraine . The only country that has publicly supported the invasion of Ukraine is North Korea.

NATO members support Ukraine and Shanghai block members (first of all China and India) de facto support Russia. It's not about public statements. It's about real economical and industrial support. Iran sells them Shahed cruise missiles, India sells them Brahmos cruise missiles, China sells them Mavic UAVs and plenty of other military equipment (both via governmental and business channels).

 

[toomuchtime_]

NATO members support Ukraine and Shanghai block members (first of all China and India) de facto support Russia. It's not about public statements. It's about real economical and industrial support. Iran sells them Shahed cruise missiles, India sells them Brahmos cruise missiles, China sells them Mavic UAVs and plenty of other military equipment (both via governmental and business channels).

Iran is not in the Shanghai block and Chinese companies sold only a dribble of drone components to Russia. China's prosperity is heavily dependent on trade with the West and it will never risk its own welfare to try to prop up the failing Russian empire.

 

[Silver Cat]

Iran is not in the Shanghai block and Chinese companies sold only a dribble of drone components to Russia.

Iran is an official member of Shanghai block since Sep, 17 of 2022.

Iran officially joins SCO

China's prosperity is heavily dependent on trade with the West and it will never risk its own welfare to try to prop up the failing Russian empire.

Chines prosperity is heavily dependent on their ability to defend themselves (which includes their possibility to regain control over Taiwan). That's why they've started those joined deterrence patrols with the Russian strategic bombers.


Russia allied with China is unbeatable economically. China allied with Russia is unbeatable militarily.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Iran is an official member of Shanghai block since Sep, 17 of 2022.

Iran officially joins SCO



Chines prosperity is heavily dependent on their ability to defend themselves (which includes their possibility to regain control over Taiwan). That's why they've started those joined deterrence patrols with the Russian strategic bombers.


Russia allied with China is unbeatable economically. China allied with Russia is unbeatable militarily.

More bullshit. The Chinese economy is heavily dependent on exports to the US and EU and the profits from that trade are what built the modern Chinese military, just as Russia's trade with the EU built the modern Russian military. At this point in time, China depends of Russia for raw materials Russia cannot sell elsewhere but China depends on trade with the West for everything else it needs. Russia gets nothing from China but rhetoric.

 

[Silver Cat]

More bullshit. The Chinese economy is heavily dependent on exports to the US and EU and the profits from that trade are what built the modern Chinese military, just as Russia's trade with the EU built the modern Russian military. At this point in time, China depends of Russia for raw materials Russia cannot sell elsewhere but China depends on trade with the West for everything else it needs. Russia gets nothing from China but rhetoric.

If the Russian Federation were really alone, they wouldn't able to stay all those economical sanctions and conventionally fight NATO-supported Ukraine.

 

[toomuchtime_]

If the Russian Federation were really alone, they wouldn't able to stay all those economical sanctions and conventionally fight NATO-supported Ukraine.

Of course they can for a while, but Russian industry is unable to replace battlefield losses, so every day Russia grows weaker and weaker while thanks to its allies Ukraine grows stronger and stronger.

 

[Silver Cat]

Of course they can for a while, but Russian industry is unable to replace battlefield losses, so every day Russia grows weaker and weaker while thanks to its allies Ukraine grows stronger and stronger.

But in fact they are able to replace battlefield losses. Actually, they becomes stronger, not weaker.

 

[jwoodie]

Perhaps on your planet, but here on Earth, it's just a war between Russia and Ukraine.

Then why is the US/NATO involved?

 

[toomuchtime_]

But in fact they are able to replace battlefield losses. Actually, they becomes stronger, not weaker.

That's simply not true. That's why they are taking older soviet tanks out of mothballs to send to Ukraine.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Then why is the US/NATO involved?

The US, like most western nations, is providing aid to Ukraine, but it is not involved in the fighting. If the US/NATO had been involved in the fighting, Russia would have been driven out of Ukraine within a few weeks.

 

[jwoodie]

The US, like most western nations, is providing aid to Ukraine, but it is not involved in the fighting. If the US/NATO had been involved in the fighting, Russia would have been driven out of Ukraine within a few weeks.

What should we do if Russia starts winning that war? Have you considered that possibility?