Are 'Gook' and 'Limey' racial epithets?

Discussion in 'Race Relations/Racism' started by manifold, Mar 7, 2012.

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Are 'Gook' and 'Limey' racial epithets?

  1. Yes, they are both racial epithets

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  2. No, neither is a racial epithet

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  3. Gook is but Limey isn't

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  4. Limey is but Gook isn't

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    It seems there is a fair amount of disagleement on this question, so I figured it was worth a poll.

    Please vote and discuss.
     
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    I voted yes.

    I acknowledge that at once upon a time, everyone on the planet was considered to be one of three 'races': Caucasoids, Negroids or Mongoloids. And as such, it could be argued that for anything to be considered 'racist' it had to target one of these three groups in their entirety. If this were still the case, I would have voted no, since limey refers specifically to the English (a subset of Caucasoids) and gook refers to Koreans (a subset of Mongoloids). However, in modern usage, the term race is essentially synonymous with ethnicity, and in fact, the dictionary definition has been updated to reflect the evolution of the word's usage:

    2 a: a family, tribe, people, or nation belonging to the same stock

    That said, if someone wants to stick to old definitions, I can buy the argument that neither is 'technically' racist even though they are both quite ethnically bigotted. However, I don't believe there exists an honest and well reasoned argument that one is racist but the other is not. If you believe you have one, I'd love to hear it.
     
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    They are racial, but small potatoes, if you're overly offended be either term, your panties are a little too tight imo.......
     
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    Gook yes, Limey, UNSURE. My father used the term Limeys which comes from UK sailors taking limes on ships to prevent scurvy.
     
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    and then some :thup:
     
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    No there isn't, you're just being an obsessive little douche about it.
     
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    Brits were called Limeys because British sailors used to eat limes to fend off scurvy it had nothing to do with race

    Online Etymology Dictionary
     
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    Why is Unkotare so offended, but Political Chic isn't?....... :dunno:
     
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    "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me"


    That goes for every single ethnic euphemism....


    There is a political philosophy which proceeds to thump it's 'collective' chest to show it's...'.appreciation'?...for its chosen 'authentic' minorities by banning and protesting in shock when certain terms are uttered.

    The use of certain vulgar terms is a subject for a different discussion.
     
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    In case you hadn't noticed, this isn't the flame zone.

    If you have something to offer to the discussion, by all means offer away.
     

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