"Are Conservatives using the old Nazi playbooks?"

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Jesus Christ, what is it with you dumbfucks and the need to call fellow Americans Nazis?

Morons, the lot of ya

Nobody called you a Nazi. They merely pointed out, with credible documented proof, that you say the exact same things, and have the exactly the same stated goals. It was left to others to decide if you are in fact Nazis.

And being the honest person you are you will gladly supply a link of me talking or acting like a Nazi won't you?

I'm not going to track down every incident where you advocated all the same things on that list, with perhaps the exception of "the duty to breed" . It would be easier all around if you list the things on that list that you don't agree with. Why don't you do that? Out of those first 8 statements by Hitler, tell us which ones you adamantly disagree with. You don' even have to bother with why. Just tell us that a patriotic right winger like you doesn't want which of those same things.

Concession to your ignorance accepted

So a patriotic right winger hasn't got the balls to say he disagrees with Hitler on even one of those 8 subjects. That pretty much proves my point doesn't it?

I didn't read the op dip shit, nor do I intend to.

Meanwhile I heard some people condone rape & murder. Since I've not seen you say otherwise I must accept that you also think both are okay since that is the way things work in your retarded world

 

[BULLDOG]

Nobody called you a Nazi. They merely pointed out, with credible documented proof, that you say the exact same things, and have the exactly the same stated goals. It was left to others to decide if you are in fact Nazis.

And being the honest person you are you will gladly supply a link of me talking or acting like a Nazi won't you?

I'm not going to track down every incident where you advocated all the same things on that list, with perhaps the exception of "the duty to breed" . It would be easier all around if you list the things on that list that you don't agree with. Why don't you do that? Out of those first 8 statements by Hitler, tell us which ones you adamantly disagree with. You don' even have to bother with why. Just tell us that a patriotic right winger like you doesn't want which of those same things.

Concession to your ignorance accepted

So a patriotic right winger hasn't got the balls to say he disagrees with Hitler on even one of those 8 subjects. That pretty much proves my point doesn't it?

I didn't read the op dip shit, nor do I intend to.

Meanwhile I heard some people condone rape & murder. Since I've not seen you say otherwise I must accept that you also think both are okay since that is the way things work in your retarded world

No problem. Ask and it shall be revealed. I can honestly say I don't advocate rape or murder. See? That wasn't so hard was it? You come on here to spout crap and insult people without bothering to read what is being said. Typical fox drone.

 

[westwall]

originally posted 8/13/2010 (not here)

""The Victory of Faith"

The Victory of Faith

The dying liberal-democratic system had opinions that were changeable, relative and not binding, but it did not have an absolute worldview in which people could put their faith.

In National Socialism, Germany has found a constructive principle, an ordering thought, that is called to end chaos by forcing a common direction to all the various aspects of life and putting everything in the service of an absolute idea.

Historic and worldview battles always are about the victory of an idea that seeks to become absolute, that takes upon itself the transformation of the world. If a victorious revolution has won freedom of action, it cannot be distracted or stopped by complaints about intolerance. They come either from adherents of past structures, structures against which the revolution fought and displaced, or from those who as Nihilists oppose any order because they want chaos and anarchy. Against such people, the rule of an idea must be hard and unforgiving. He who wants to build must push aside and fight everything that stands in the way. The greatness of an era depends on bringing all thoughts and all forms of life under a unified worldview, a unified faith.

A true worldview brings values, style, a moral law. It takes fate in its hands. Everything else is theory, a matter for discussion.

This demonstrates the deepest roots from which a worldview draws its strengths: from faith. Great times rest on a great, absolute faith. Only those with faith, with mountain-moving strength and joy in action can fulfill an historic mission. Values that are truly believed, not merely recognized and discussed, are the foundation of creative strength. In era of decline, however, everything is open to discussion and therefore to denial. When God is a question, one no longer builds cathedrals. Where people have no living faith, they do nothing great, nothing that lasts."

The source: H. Mehringer, “Sieg des Glaubens. Zum 30. Januar,” Der Schulungsbrief, (January 1939), pp. 2-4

Sound like anyone we know? Aren't some of the ultra-religious Christian conservatives doing this very thing?

No, but the progressives are.

 

[mikegriffith1]

originally posted 8/13/2010 (not here)

""The Victory of Faith"

The Victory of Faith

The dying liberal-democratic system had opinions that were changeable, relative and not binding, but it did not have an absolute worldview in which people could put their faith.

In National Socialism, Germany has found a constructive principle, an ordering thought, that is called to end chaos by forcing a common direction to all the various aspects of life and putting everything in the service of an absolute idea.

Historic and worldview battles always are about the victory of an idea that seeks to become absolute, that takes upon itself the transformation of the world. If a victorious revolution has won freedom of action, it cannot be distracted or stopped by complaints about intolerance. They come either from adherents of past structures, structures against which the revolution fought and displaced, or from those who as Nihilists oppose any order because they want chaos and anarchy. Against such people, the rule of an idea must be hard and unforgiving. He who wants to build must push aside and fight everything that stands in the way. The greatness of an era depends on bringing all thoughts and all forms of life under a unified worldview, a unified faith.

A true worldview brings values, style, a moral law. It takes fate in its hands. Everything else is theory, a matter for discussion.

This demonstrates the deepest roots from which a worldview draws its strengths: from faith. Great times rest on a great, absolute faith. Only those with faith, with mountain-moving strength and joy in action can fulfill an historic mission. Values that are truly believed, not merely recognized and discussed, are the foundation of creative strength. In era of decline, however, everything is open to discussion and therefore to denial. When God is a question, one no longer builds cathedrals. Where people have no living faith, they do nothing great, nothing that lasts."

The source: H. Mehringer, “Sieg des Glaubens. Zum 30. Januar,” Der Schulungsbrief, (January 1939), pp. 2-4

Sound like anyone we know? Aren't some of the ultra-religious Christian conservatives doing this very thing?

Obviously, you are woefully unread on the subject of Nazi policies and actions. For a brief time, some Nazis made pro-religious statements, but by 1940 the Nazi attack on Christianity was in full swing.

And I repeat that it's very ironic that liberals who clearly have not seriously studied Nazi Germany imply that conservatives resemble Nazis when it is liberals who are far closer to Nazi policies and tactics. A few points of resemblance between the Nazis and modern American liberals (links will be provided at the end):

* The Nazis hated all traditional religions, especially Christianity and Judaism. (FYI, the Nazis murdered tens of thousands of Christians and thousands of priests and nuns.)

* The Nazis were huge believers in Darwinian evolution, and in fact used it as a major part of their Holocaust ideology.

* The Nazis asserted the right to replace and appoint priests and pastors and/or to shut down churches that they believed were teaching "harmful," "dangerous" principles.

* The Nazis targeted private Christian schools to prevent children from being taught traditional values and beliefs.

* The Nazis insisted on total control over education. All school curricula had to be approved by the national government.

* The Nazis more than tolerated homosexuality in their high-ranking circles. In fact, many Nazi founders and leaders were gay. There is evidence that Hitler himself was gay and later bi-sexual. (It's true that the Nazis publicly condemned and persecuted some gays, but this was a smokescreen to hide their own perversion and to target enemies who happened to be gay.)

* The Nazis believed that the government had the right to regulate or take over any business that it wanted to regulate or own.

* The Nazis rejected traditional values.

* The Nazis sought to impose abortion on women who were "non-Aryan." They had no problem with abortion per se, but they didn't want "pure Aryan women" having abortions. When the Nazis came to power, they loosened Germany's anti-abortion laws.

* The Nazis banned gun ownership for groups they believed posed a threat, especially Jews, and they insisted on national/universal gun registration. Most ordinary German citizens could own guns if they so desired, but the Nazis claimed the right to ban any group or person from owning guns if they felt the need to do so.

* The Nazis rejected federalism/local control and sought to centralize all power in the national government.

* The Nazis imposed wage and price controls.

So the next time you see some liberal compare conservatives to the Nazis, remind them that Hitler and the Nazis had much more in common with American liberals than they did with American conservatives.

Nazi Policy and the Catholic Church

Articles The Nazis and Christianity

Hitler s Persecution of the Christian Churches

From Darwin to Hitler

Expelled and the Darwinism-Nazi Connection A Response to Jeff Schloss Center for Science and Culture

Darwin and Hitler In Their Own Words Center for Science and Culture

Hitler s Pope The American Spectator

Rome Conference Shatters Myth of Pius XII as Hitler s Pope - Breitbart

Was Hitler a Christian

The Nazi Model For Outcome-Based Education

Obama Agrees with Hitler on Schooling Children

HITLER WAS A SOCIALIST

Hitler and the socialist dream - Arts and Entertainment - The Independent

Non-Jewish Victims of the Holocaust Jewish Virtual Library

The Nazis and Abortion

Hitler Pro-Abortion

Hitler s Leftist Economic Policies

Homosexuality in the Nazi Party

The Homosexual Roots of the Nazi Party from The Pink Swastika

New Evidence from His Doctors Shows Hitler Was Gay - Breitbart

National Review

Nazi Gun Control

The Volokh Conspiracy - Adolf Hitler on Federalism

Why did the Nazis control education - The Holocaust Explained Website

 

[Borillar]

Jesus Christ, what is it with you dumbfucks and the need to call fellow Americans Nazis?

Morons, the lot of ya

Gee, that's not at all like when conservatives call fellow Americans Communists...