skookerasbil
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s0n...........I heard about the Discovery Channel tragedy and you immediately came to mind!!!!
Do we have any worries about an elevated snap factor here s0n????
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So it should be easy to show how a 20PPM increase in CO2 raises temperatures in a laboratory setting, amiright?
So it should be easy to show how a 20PPM increase in CO2 raises temperatures in a laboratory setting, amiright?
Changing the goalposts again, Frank? So now it's 20 ppm, is it? That IS easy to prove, as you well know. Spectrophotometers are very sensitive and a difference in the infra-red absorption spectrum of CO2 +/- 20 ppm would be trivial to demonstrate. Any other questions?
Arctic ice naturally melts during the Northern Hemisphere summer, refreezing again come winter, but in recent years that summer melt has far exceeded the average. In 2007, the extent of remaining sea ice was the lowest on record, an estimated 1.65 million square miles (4.28 million square kilometers). That was 39 percent below the long-term average from 1979 to 2000 (the period that satellites have been keeping measurements of sea-ice extent). The record melt opened up the fabled Northwest Passage.
Arctic Ocean Sea Ice, Global Warming Effect | Fly Over Measures Arctic Sea Ice Thickness, Warming World | Our Amazing Planet
So it should be easy to show how a 20PPM increase in CO2 raises temperatures in a laboratory setting, amiright?
Changing the goalposts again, Frank? So now it's 20 ppm, is it? That IS easy to prove, as you well know. Spectrophotometers are very sensitive and a difference in the infra-red absorption spectrum of CO2 +/- 20 ppm would be trivial to demonstrate. Any other questions?
I meant 200 as I've said in a million other posts and in any event you still haven't shown me a single laboratory experiment at anything but a 600,000PPM increase in CO2.
Also, fuck off.
I'm bored with this "debate" and you and OR circle jerking around why you never can test your stupid theory in a lab
Changing the goalposts again, Frank? So now it's 20 ppm, is it? That IS easy to prove, as you well know. Spectrophotometers are very sensitive and a difference in the infra-red absorption spectrum of CO2 +/- 20 ppm would be trivial to demonstrate. Any other questions?
I meant 200 as I've said in a million other posts and in any event you still haven't shown me a single laboratory experiment at anything but a 600,000PPM increase in CO2.
Also, fuck off.
I'm bored with this "debate" and you and OR circle jerking around why you never can test your stupid theory in a lab
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0kIaCKPlH4]YouTube - Global Warming in a Jar[/ame]
I meant 200 as I've said in a million other posts and in any event you still haven't shown me a single laboratory experiment at anything but a 600,000PPM increase in CO2.
Also, fuck off.
I'm bored with this "debate" and you and OR circle jerking around why you never can test your stupid theory in a lab
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0kIaCKPlH4]YouTube - Global Warming in a Jar[/ame]
Do you know what the PPM stands for in 200PPM?
It's parts per million.
That's .02%
In a gallon jar it's .025 ounces
A gallon is 128 ounces, so to replicate your Imaginary "Global Warming" hypothesis you could only add, not an ounce, not 1/10th of an ounce but .025 ounces.
The CO2 would be added to the second container for about a nanosecond, that's how little additional CO2 there's been added in Earth atmosphere.
That's why you'll NEVER see any major Warmer University conduction a similar experiment using realistic amounts of CO2 because there's never any measurable warming.
You have to put your thumb on the scale and add at least 200,000PPM to get any results.
If someone at Penn or MIT did the experiment correctly the warmers would be kicked to the curb right next to the Ghostbusters.
Thanks for showing again why there's no science to your theory
to answer your question Frank,
No, they can't define how much of the warming is due to natural causes and how much is due to manmade CO2 increases. For some reason the AGW alarmists decided that natural warming ended and CO2 is now the driving force. There is no way to prove the conjecture one way or the other but the 'question is so important that we must act NOW'. Whether we know what to do or not. Apparently they want us to stop burning carbon but I haven't heard any calls for population control or reduction.
to answer your question Frank,
No, they can't define how much of the warming is due to natural causes and how much is due to manmade CO2 increases. For some reason the AGW alarmists decided that natural warming ended and CO2 is now the driving force. There is no way to prove the conjecture one way or the other but the 'question is so important that we must act NOW'. Whether we know what to do or not. Apparently they want us to stop burning carbon but I haven't heard any calls for population control or reduction.
Just calling for the reduction of CO2 output has a bunch of people screaming bloody murder. Imagine what they would say if there were a call for a mandatory ban on having more than two children.
But, not to worry. Population control is coming and it will be the old fashioned way. We have seen the harbingers of it this summer in Pakistan and Russia.
Arctic ice naturally melts during the Northern Hemisphere summer, refreezing again come winter, but in recent years that summer melt has far exceeded the average. In 2007, the extent of remaining sea ice was the lowest on record, an estimated 1.65 million square miles (4.28 million square kilometers). That was 39 percent below the long-term average from 1979 to 2000 (the period that satellites have been keeping measurements of sea-ice extent). The record melt opened up the fabled Northwest Passage.
Arctic Ocean Sea Ice, Global Warming Effect | Fly Over Measures Arctic Sea Ice Thickness, Warming World | Our Amazing Planet
Or maybe not.
to answer your question Frank,
No, they can't define how much of the warming is due to natural causes and how much is due to manmade CO2 increases. For some reason the AGW alarmists decided that natural warming ended and CO2 is now the driving force. There is no way to prove the conjecture one way or the other but the 'question is so important that we must act NOW'. Whether we know what to do or not. Apparently they want us to stop burning carbon but I haven't heard any calls for population control or reduction.
Just calling for the reduction of CO2 output has a bunch of people screaming bloody murder. Imagine what they would say if there were a call for a mandatory ban on having more than two children.
But, not to worry. Population control is coming and it will be the old fashioned way. We have seen the harbingers of it this summer in Pakistan and Russia.
You're such a sick fucking individual, you sound like Glenn Beck, "The end approaches! Heed my words!"
Just calling for the reduction of CO2 output has a bunch of people screaming bloody murder. Imagine what they would say if there were a call for a mandatory ban on having more than two children.
But, not to worry. Population control is coming and it will be the old fashioned way. We have seen the harbingers of it this summer in Pakistan and Russia.
You're such a sick fucking individual, you sound like Glenn Beck, "The end approaches! Heed my words!"
My words do not count. Heed the evidence that one sees in nature. The evidence that scientists from all the nations of the world are presenting.
Arctic ice naturally melts during the Northern Hemisphere summer, refreezing again come winter, but in recent years that summer melt has far exceeded the average. In 2007, the extent of remaining sea ice was the lowest on record, an estimated 1.65 million square miles (4.28 million square kilometers). That was 39 percent below the long-term average from 1979 to 2000 (the period that satellites have been keeping measurements of sea-ice extent). The record melt opened up the fabled Northwest Passage.
Arctic Ocean Sea Ice, Global Warming Effect | Fly Over Measures Arctic Sea Ice Thickness, Warming World | Our Amazing Planet
Or maybe not.
In spite of which the present extant of the Arctic Ice is only 3.25 million square km, and still declining. And every prediction, save one, in this site was for over 4.2 for a minimum, and the predictions were made in June, 2010.
http://notrickszone.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/June-2010.jpg
In other words, the melt still confounds the people that are observing it by consistantly being greater than predicted. As with the outgassing of the permafrost and ocean clathrates in the region.
Just calling for the reduction of CO2 output has a bunch of people screaming bloody murder. Imagine what they would say if there were a call for a mandatory ban on having more than two children.
But, not to worry. Population control is coming and it will be the old fashioned way. We have seen the harbingers of it this summer in Pakistan and Russia.
You're such a sick fucking individual, you sound like Glenn Beck, "The end approaches! Heed my words!"
My words do not count. Heed the evidence that one sees in nature. The evidence that scientists from all the nations of the world are presenting.
You can now sail around the pole....
You can now sail around the pole....
You could do it way back in 1903 through 1906 too!