Apologists for Terror Spread

[TooTall]

The attempt to paint all of the Muslim religion as terrorists.

Dear Old Rocks May I remind you that even back in the days after 9/11
When President George W brought in a Muslim representative to make it clear that Muslim Americans were recognized as allies to include and stand together, it was the far religious right that attacked even their own beloved President Bush for "embracing Islam."

Do not confuse the far far religious right with "all conservatives."
I understand there is a faction of conservatives that will even push legislation to ban mosques
along with "shariah" <-- which really refers to ALL practice and rituals in Islam, from the prayers to the charity.
What's wrong is mandating this by govt, but "shariah" itself is like the exercise of religion, and too broad to ban.

I agree with you that some people and groups take this TOO FAR, and blame Muslims collectively for tolerating and allowing this to happen. Similar to blaming all Liberals and Democrats
for what Obama does unconstitutionally because the party ISN'T STOPPING HIM but letting him do it.

I happen to be a Democrat on the verge of calling a national class action SUIT against my own Democrats. So I know the important it makes that I speak as a member of that class to stand up to the hijacking of political power to "violate the civil rights of others." But as a Democrat myself, YES I DO ACCEPT AND CRITICIZE the responsibility Democrats DO Share for the corruption going on of the Democratic Party, similar to how Muslims SHOULD stand up and not be complicit or appear to be. I recognize this IS the fault of Democrats collectively for empowering officials such as Obama and Pelosi to enforce unconstitutional mandates.

As a Democrat, I am on the side of the Constitution, yet I still fault myself and fellow Democrats "if we do not DO ENOUGH to stop the abuse of our Party to subvert the laws of the land."
Similar, this is why people blame Muslims who "do not DO ENOUGH to stand against terrorism
so it appears the majority "enable or allow it to happen."

At this point, I see more and more Muslims SPEAKING OUT and denouncing the terrorism and ISIS.
1. The French Muslims issued a video statement in sympathy and solidarity with their fellow countrymen in mourning
2. A Muslim organization issues a statement that in the case of Ahmed and the clock, the authorities responded as necessary to the potential threat, and they blamed the need for heightened security
on the hostile fear and hype, but not the police they supported in acting accordingly
3. A Muslim Imam also spoke up in agreement with Trump's call to halt immigration "until the security concerns are fully addressed"

This is very important that members of the Muslim community speak for themselves, so they help make this distinction.

If you me or others merely make the "same mistake" of BROAD BRUSHING the entire response as "blaming all Muslims" that's committing the same error.

That causes CENSORSHIP of the attempts to REPORT when Muslims ARE speaking out and representing OPPOSITION and DEFENSE AGAINST Terrorism.

Please do not feed into the "collective stereotype" on either side.

What we need to PROMOTE in the media are more examples of people in each group standing and speaking up for corrections. We need to promote the GOOD examples, and quit endorsing blanket stereotypes we oppose.

Many Muslims do know that all Muslims are not Jihadists, but they also know that all Jihadists are Muslims and they need to rat them out. When has that ever happened?

 

[dannyboys]

The attempt to paint all of the Muslim religion as terrorists.

Dear Old Rocks May I remind you that even back in the days after 9/11
When President George W brought in a Muslim representative to make it clear that Muslim Americans were recognized as allies to include and stand together, it was the far religious right that attacked even their own beloved President Bush for "embracing Islam."

Do not confuse the far far religious right with "all conservatives."
I understand there is a faction of conservatives that will even push legislation to ban mosques
along with "shariah" <-- which really refers to ALL practice and rituals in Islam, from the prayers to the charity.
What's wrong is mandating this by govt, but "shariah" itself is like the exercise of religion, and too broad to ban.

I agree with you that some people and groups take this TOO FAR, and blame Muslims collectively for tolerating and allowing this to happen. Similar to blaming all Liberals and Democrats
for what Obama does unconstitutionally because the party ISN'T STOPPING HIM but letting him do it.

I happen to be a Democrat on the verge of calling a national class action SUIT against my own Democrats. So I know the important it makes that I speak as a member of that class to stand up to the hijacking of political power to "violate the civil rights of others." But as a Democrat myself, YES I DO ACCEPT AND CRITICIZE the responsibility Democrats DO Share for the corruption going on of the Democratic Party, similar to how Muslims SHOULD stand up and not be complicit or appear to be. I recognize this IS the fault of Democrats collectively for empowering officials such as Obama and Pelosi to enforce unconstitutional mandates.

As a Democrat, I am on the side of the Constitution, yet I still fault myself and fellow Democrats "if we do not DO ENOUGH to stop the abuse of our Party to subvert the laws of the land."
Similar, this is why people blame Muslims who "do not DO ENOUGH to stand against terrorism
so it appears the majority "enable or allow it to happen."

At this point, I see more and more Muslims SPEAKING OUT and denouncing the terrorism and ISIS.
1. The French Muslims issued a video statement in sympathy and solidarity with their fellow countrymen in mourning
2. A Muslim organization issues a statement that in the case of Ahmed and the clock, the authorities responded as necessary to the potential threat, and they blamed the need for heightened security
on the hostile fear and hype, but not the police they supported in acting accordingly
3. A Muslim Imam also spoke up in agreement with Trump's call to halt immigration "until the security concerns are fully addressed"

This is very important that members of the Muslim community speak for themselves, so they help make this distinction.

If you me or others merely make the "same mistake" of BROAD BRUSHING the entire response as "blaming all Muslims" that's committing the same error.

That causes CENSORSHIP of the attempts to REPORT when Muslims ARE speaking out and representing OPPOSITION and DEFENSE AGAINST Terrorism.

Please do not feed into the "collective stereotype" on either side.

What we need to PROMOTE in the media are more examples of people in each group standing and speaking up for corrections. We need to promote the GOOD examples, and quit endorsing blanket stereotypes we oppose.

Many Muslims do know that all Muslims are not Jihadists, but they also know that all Jihadists are Muslims and they need to rat them out. When has that ever happened?

Anyone on the planet with a sentient brain knows muslims don't rat even the worst jihadists out. Why would these 'peace-loving' muslim want themselves and their families murdered.
That and behind the living room curtains of ten of millions of muslims who are more than happy to see the Great Satan' terrorised.

 

[dannyboys]

I have lived in the ME. Most of your have not and don't have a clue what life is like there.
You stupid LIBs believe muslims live just like you and your neighbors do. Everyone minds their own business and leaves their neighbors alone.
It is the exact opposite in the ME. Everyone knows the family history of their neighbors going back decades.
Today in Dearborn every fucking muslim knows the life story of every other muslim who attends Friday prayers.
Every fucking muslim in Dearborn KNOWS who has been radicalised. Tribal and inter family feuds are the mother's milk of the muslim community. They live for the conflicts. The entire religion is based on violence and female oppression.

 

[aris2chat]

Sorry the government is too PC to run a web bots to search for terms such as terror, attack, ISIS, bomb, threat, or some similar list of words for the FBI to analyze. They see the frequency of use and combination of terms by user or location. There are ways to trigger an in depth look at certain sites and people.
The same way we can impute a search and come up with thousands of sites, they can program a search to study potential threats and reduce a search to a few hundred or less to individually look at. This is not massive of man power once the program is in place. It can even predict potential changes and future risks before another tragedy takes place.
It is not that there is no technology, but they are afraid of privacy laws. If this is war, we should be able to intercept communication of the enemy and prepare or prevent an attack. Web bots can tell us who those threats might be without human invasion of privacy until an alert comes up, then the human element can decide if and how dangerous a person or site might be.
Even purchases of materials in a certain area or by an individual even with cash might set an alert. Reorders of items by a store of unusual size for that business might be an alert. Purchases online for an unusual quantity might be trigger. It is simply a way of non-human search to narrow in on individuals that might want to be looked into by the agency.
Web bots can be taught to search in any language and ciphers that fifty humans could not interpret alone.

It is not a perfect way of investigation but it can eliminate the majority of us as potential threats and weed out those who are just ranting from those who might actually be planning something.

It's a start that could save lives if utilized properly, that is no human severance till something alerts a need for investigation.

Typing on the net is like speaking in a stadium. It can be heard by many if they are listening. It might be free speech but it is no longer private. There should be no restriction to searches or of background checks of a person trying to enter this country through the internet. Our voices and words are not lost in the wind but remain digitally on some server or cloud. It would be the same as finding a letter or a notebook with a detailed plan to rob a bank on the ground. It might be turned into the police (FBI) and the writer tracked down and arrested before the plan is carried out. If it was research for a movie or book, the authorities can determine that. If a real threat,

 

[aris2chat]

we have all seen some things like

web bots work in a similar war finding the prevalence of words or groups of words and can predicts their use in the future. Web bots are used for many reasons but it is also used to predict economic changes and potential problems in other countries. No reason it should not be used to follow or prevent terrorism. The end results still would go through human evaluation. We can talk about terrorism but when a grouping of phrases are used as a threat, the web bots would pick up on it and the human would read the conversation and decide if we are taking hypothetical or just ranting rather than making a real threat. The web bot or other programs would simply point out certain sites of conversations that might be suspicious.

A police man might see someone acting in a way that is not relaxed or with some urgency and want to take a closer look. The use of programs to search the net would be much the same. Conversations might be perfectly normal, but better to check than to have more attacks without some warning.

LA schools pickup on a threat, better safe than sorry. It might have been a hoax or a test to see the response for another time. The fact that NYC did not respond might give a terrorist the idea that they would be less likely to a future threat rather than disrupt the city unless it was far more specific. Think of test driving a new car and stepping on the breaks a few times in a parking lot before testing on the streets. You don't want to be in traffic and not have breaks or step on them and nearly go through the windshield.

Does not matter if we have the tools unless we actually use them in the process of protecting the people and the country from attack.

If the country falls, we won't be worrying about individual rights, we won't have any. If we don't use the alarm or have a weapon in the house or even a phone it won't help you if there is a break in. "Oh, but if only I had turned on the alarm, or had a weapon, even a broom stick, it might have been different.....". Time to let those who protect us use the tools available and not just search after an attack for reasons and others involved and try to bring a case against them.

best offense is a good defense.

 

[TooTall]

The attempt to paint all of the Muslim religion as terrorists.

Dear Old Rocks May I remind you that even back in the days after 9/11
When President George W brought in a Muslim representative to make it clear that Muslim Americans were recognized as allies to include and stand together, it was the far religious right that attacked even their own beloved President Bush for "embracing Islam."

Do not confuse the far far religious right with "all conservatives."
I understand there is a faction of conservatives that will even push legislation to ban mosques
along with "shariah" <-- which really refers to ALL practice and rituals in Islam, from the prayers to the charity.
What's wrong is mandating this by govt, but "shariah" itself is like the exercise of religion, and too broad to ban.

I agree with you that some people and groups take this TOO FAR, and blame Muslims collectively for tolerating and allowing this to happen. Similar to blaming all Liberals and Democrats
for what Obama does unconstitutionally because the party ISN'T STOPPING HIM but letting him do it.

I happen to be a Democrat on the verge of calling a national class action SUIT against my own Democrats. So I know the important it makes that I speak as a member of that class to stand up to the hijacking of political power to "violate the civil rights of others." But as a Democrat myself, YES I DO ACCEPT AND CRITICIZE the responsibility Democrats DO Share for the corruption going on of the Democratic Party, similar to how Muslims SHOULD stand up and not be complicit or appear to be. I recognize this IS the fault of Democrats collectively for empowering officials such as Obama and Pelosi to enforce unconstitutional mandates.

As a Democrat, I am on the side of the Constitution, yet I still fault myself and fellow Democrats "if we do not DO ENOUGH to stop the abuse of our Party to subvert the laws of the land."
Similar, this is why people blame Muslims who "do not DO ENOUGH to stand against terrorism
so it appears the majority "enable or allow it to happen."

At this point, I see more and more Muslims SPEAKING OUT and denouncing the terrorism and ISIS.
1. The French Muslims issued a video statement in sympathy and solidarity with their fellow countrymen in mourning
2. A Muslim organization issues a statement that in the case of Ahmed and the clock, the authorities responded as necessary to the potential threat, and they blamed the need for heightened security
on the hostile fear and hype, but not the police they supported in acting accordingly
3. A Muslim Imam also spoke up in agreement with Trump's call to halt immigration "until the security concerns are fully addressed"

This is very important that members of the Muslim community speak for themselves, so they help make this distinction.

If you me or others merely make the "same mistake" of BROAD BRUSHING the entire response as "blaming all Muslims" that's committing the same error.

That causes CENSORSHIP of the attempts to REPORT when Muslims ARE speaking out and representing OPPOSITION and DEFENSE AGAINST Terrorism.

Please do not feed into the "collective stereotype" on either side.

What we need to PROMOTE in the media are more examples of people in each group standing and speaking up for corrections. We need to promote the GOOD examples, and quit endorsing blanket stereotypes we oppose.

Many Muslims do know that all Muslims are not Jihadists, but they also know that all Jihadists are Muslims and they need to rat them out. When has that ever happened?

Anyone on the planet with a sentient brain knows muslims don't rat even the worst jihadists out. Why would these 'peace-loving' muslim want themselves and their families murdered.
That and behind the living room curtains of ten of millions of muslims who are more than happy to see the Great Satan' terrorised.

Muslims that live in the US should know that there are telephone numbers that they can call to report terrorists where they do not have to reveal their identity. What you say is absolutely true in most middle eastern countries.

 

[irosie91]

you did it again EMILY---------you lied-----the accusation that people have been
INSISTING "ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS" is 100% bullshit You got
some examples of anyone stating "ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS"?

No, I was saying that some people do blame "all Muslims" for not standing up more, enabling and letting their faith get hijacked, so they are seen as part of the problem collectively.

Some people do recognize there is something wrong with Islam if it is MISSING something
that allows self-check, and thus becomes too easily abused.

Personally I would not practice Islam or any other system without also
checking it by enforcing Constitutional principles.

Christianity that respects civil govt is checked.
Muslim followers who respect civil govt are checked.

The common factor I've found that instigates the dangerous cults is
overriding "due process" and exerting imbalanced power especially abusing govt WITHOUT check. So Islam without Constitutional checks is as dangerous as implementing Christianity through govt without Constitutional checks. Religious crusades by any name leads to genocide.

Sorry whatever I said was not clear, irosie91
I probably don't agree with anyone on this thread making broad generalizations
because I can likely find an exception to that. I thought that was clear already!

I can always find points where I can agree or disagree with each person,
so I see no reason to "attack or label PEOPLE" as liars or whatever in general!

I would rather discuss and agree point by point.
Not into calling people liars, sorry if I came across that way to you!

I worry about you are this quick to assume someone else is "lying."

You must still be extremely injured and distrustful because of the
abuses you and your husband know of firsthand.

Sorry if anything I said offended and hurt you by triggering these old wounds.

I pray for direct and mass healing of this and all other injuries caused by
political and religious abuse, cult oppression, torture, rape and killing.

We have a lot more work to do to eradicate the root cause of these ills.

Forgiveness protects us and casts out the fears that fuel unforgiveness and ill will.

I pray all such negative influences and energies be REMOVED
in Christ Jesus name for sake of Restorative Justice and Peace.

Amen and take care. Happy Holidays to you and your husband,
your community and friends I pray shall be uplifted and greatly blessed in abundance.

May the spirit of grace and healing enter in, bring in correction for all wrongs
and restitution and restoration of healthy balanced relations for the betterment of all humanity.

Thank you for being here and sharing your knowledge
so we realize how much work we really have to do to end the ills of war and bring peace.

Shalom, irosie91 and Best Wishes for
a Happy Healthy and Prosperous New Year

Yours truly, Peace and God Bless
Emily

try again Emily------you have VERY FREQUENTLY insisted that "ALL MUSLIMS ARE BEING BLAMED" and that there are people who ASSERTED that people
make broad HATE coments about "ALL MUSLIMS. Now you are playing
'saint emily'

 

[dannyboys]

we have all seen some things like

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web bots work in a similar war finding the prevalence of words or groups of words and can predicts their use in the future. Web bots are used for many reasons but it is also used to predict economic changes and potential problems in other countries. No reason it should not be used to follow or prevent terrorism. The end results still would go through human evaluation. We can talk about terrorism but when a grouping of phrases are used as a threat, the web bots would pick up on it and the human would read the conversation and decide if we are taking hypothetical or just ranting rather than making a real threat. The web bot or other programs would simply point out certain sites of conversations that might be suspicious.

A police man might see someone acting in a way that is not relaxed or with some urgency and want to take a closer look. The use of programs to search the net would be much the same. Conversations might be perfectly normal, but better to check than to have more attacks without some warning.

LA schools pickup on a threat, better safe than sorry. It might have been a hoax or a test to see the response for another time. The fact that NYC did not respond might give a terrorist the idea that they would be less likely to a future threat rather than disrupt the city unless it was far more specific. Think of test driving a new car and stepping on the breaks a few times in a parking lot before testing on the streets. You don't want to be in traffic and not have breaks or step on them and nearly go through the windshield.

Does not matter if we have the tools unless we actually use them in the process of protecting the people and the country from attack.

If the country falls, we won't be worrying about individual rights, we won't have any. If we don't use the alarm or have a weapon in the house or even a phone it won't help you if there is a break in. "Oh, but if only I had turned on the alarm, or had a weapon, even a broom stick, it might have been different.....". Time to let those who protect us use the tools available and not just search after an attack for reasons and others involved and try to bring a case against them.

best offense is a good defense.

Obama specifically ordered DHS etc NOT to use bots because he WANTS to encourage terrorist attacks so he can declare Martial Law and suspend the election and declare himself President indefinitely so he can continue to destroy the fabric of America.
A few years ago had I read this I would have thought the poster batshit crazy.
Beware American Patriots. Your country is at war from within and you're sleeping.

 

[JimBowie1958]

The attempt to paint all of the Muslim religion as terrorists.

Dear Old Rocks May I remind you that even back in the days after 9/11
When President George W brought in a Muslim representative to make it clear that Muslim Americans were recognized as allies to include and stand together, it was the far religious right that attacked even their own beloved President Bush for "embracing Islam."

Do not confuse the far far religious right with "all conservatives."
I understand there is a faction of conservatives that will even push legislation to ban mosques
along with "shariah" <-- which really refers to ALL practice and rituals in Islam, from the prayers to the charity.
What's wrong is mandating this by govt, but "shariah" itself is like the exercise of religion, and too broad to ban.

I agree with you that some people and groups take this TOO FAR, and blame Muslims collectively for tolerating and allowing this to happen. Similar to blaming all Liberals and Democrats
for what Obama does unconstitutionally because the party ISN'T STOPPING HIM but letting him do it.

I happen to be a Democrat on the verge of calling a national class action SUIT against my own Democrats. So I know the important it makes that I speak as a member of that class to stand up to the hijacking of political power to "violate the civil rights of others." But as a Democrat myself, YES I DO ACCEPT AND CRITICIZE the responsibility Democrats DO Share for the corruption going on of the Democratic Party, similar to how Muslims SHOULD stand up and not be complicit or appear to be. I recognize this IS the fault of Democrats collectively for empowering officials such as Obama and Pelosi to enforce unconstitutional mandates.

As a Democrat, I am on the side of the Constitution, yet I still fault myself and fellow Democrats "if we do not DO ENOUGH to stop the abuse of our Party to subvert the laws of the land."
Similar, this is why people blame Muslims who "do not DO ENOUGH to stand against terrorism
so it appears the majority "enable or allow it to happen."

At this point, I see more and more Muslims SPEAKING OUT and denouncing the terrorism and ISIS.
1. The French Muslims issued a video statement in sympathy and solidarity with their fellow countrymen in mourning
2. A Muslim organization issues a statement that in the case of Ahmed and the clock, the authorities responded as necessary to the potential threat, and they blamed the need for heightened security
on the hostile fear and hype, but not the police they supported in acting accordingly
3. A Muslim Imam also spoke up in agreement with Trump's call to halt immigration "until the security concerns are fully addressed"

This is very important that members of the Muslim community speak for themselves, so they help make this distinction.

If you me or others merely make the "same mistake" of BROAD BRUSHING the entire response as "blaming all Muslims" that's committing the same error.

That causes CENSORSHIP of the attempts to REPORT when Muslims ARE speaking out and representing OPPOSITION and DEFENSE AGAINST Terrorism.

Please do not feed into the "collective stereotype" on either side.

What we need to PROMOTE in the media are more examples of people in each group standing and speaking up for corrections. We need to promote the GOOD examples, and quit endorsing blanket stereotypes we oppose.

So the fact that 90% of the mosques in the US being controlled by Wahhabi extremists is just so much blather in your mind and unrelated to terrorism entirely?

roflmao

 

[JimBowie1958]

you did it again EMILY---------you lied-----the accusation that people have been
INSISTING "ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS" is 100% bullshit You got
some examples of anyone stating "ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS"?

No, I was saying that some people do blame "all Muslims" for not standing up more, enabling and letting their faith get hijacked, so they are seen as part of the problem collectively.

Some people do recognize there is something wrong with Islam if it is MISSING something
that allows self-check, and thus becomes too easily abused.

Personally I would not practice Islam or any other system without also
checking it by enforcing Constitutional principles.

Christianity that respects civil govt is checked.
Muslim followers who respect civil govt are checked.

The common factor I've found that instigates the dangerous cults is
overriding "due process" and exerting imbalanced power especially abusing govt WITHOUT check. So Islam without Constitutional checks is as dangerous as implementing Christianity through govt without Constitutional checks. Religious crusades by any name leads to genocide.

Sorry whatever I said was not clear, irosie91
I probably don't agree with anyone on this thread making broad generalizations
because I can likely find an exception to that. I thought that was clear already!

I can always find points where I can agree or disagree with each person,
so I see no reason to "attack or label PEOPLE" as liars or whatever in general!

I would rather discuss and agree point by point.
Not into calling people liars, sorry if I came across that way to you!

I worry about you are this quick to assume someone else is "lying."

You must still be extremely injured and distrustful because of the
abuses you and your husband know of firsthand.

Sorry if anything I said offended and hurt you by triggering these old wounds.

I pray for direct and mass healing of this and all other injuries caused by
political and religious abuse, cult oppression, torture, rape and killing.

We have a lot more work to do to eradicate the root cause of these ills.

Forgiveness protects us and casts out the fears that fuel unforgiveness and ill will.

I pray all such negative influences and energies be REMOVED
in Christ Jesus name for sake of Restorative Justice and Peace.

Amen and take care. Happy Holidays to you and your husband,
your community and friends I pray shall be uplifted and greatly blessed in abundance.

May the spirit of grace and healing enter in, bring in correction for all wrongs
and restitution and restoration of healthy balanced relations for the betterment of all humanity.

Thank you for being here and sharing your knowledge
so we realize how much work we really have to do to end the ills of war and bring peace.

Shalom, irosie91 and Best Wishes for
a Happy Healthy and Prosperous New Year

Yours truly, Peace and God Bless
Emily

Good effort, but the sad fact of the matter is that the mosques are centers of hatred for western civilization and liberals sympathize with that and so defend them.

 

[Old Rocks]

Really? And your source for this is?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Really? And your source for this is?

Attribution is your friend, dude.

 

[emilynghiem]

The attempt to paint all of the Muslim religion as terrorists.

Dear Old Rocks May I remind you that even back in the days after 9/11
When President George W brought in a Muslim representative to make it clear that Muslim Americans were recognized as allies to include and stand together, it was the far religious right that attacked even their own beloved President Bush for "embracing Islam."

Do not confuse the far far religious right with "all conservatives."
I understand there is a faction of conservatives that will even push legislation to ban mosques
along with "shariah" <-- which really refers to ALL practice and rituals in Islam, from the prayers to the charity.
What's wrong is mandating this by govt, but "shariah" itself is like the exercise of religion, and too broad to ban.

I agree with you that some people and groups take this TOO FAR, and blame Muslims collectively for tolerating and allowing this to happen. Similar to blaming all Liberals and Democrats
for what Obama does unconstitutionally because the party ISN'T STOPPING HIM but letting him do it.

I happen to be a Democrat on the verge of calling a national class action SUIT against my own Democrats. So I know the important it makes that I speak as a member of that class to stand up to the hijacking of political power to "violate the civil rights of others." But as a Democrat myself, YES I DO ACCEPT AND CRITICIZE the responsibility Democrats DO Share for the corruption going on of the Democratic Party, similar to how Muslims SHOULD stand up and not be complicit or appear to be. I recognize this IS the fault of Democrats collectively for empowering officials such as Obama and Pelosi to enforce unconstitutional mandates.

As a Democrat, I am on the side of the Constitution, yet I still fault myself and fellow Democrats "if we do not DO ENOUGH to stop the abuse of our Party to subvert the laws of the land."
Similar, this is why people blame Muslims who "do not DO ENOUGH to stand against terrorism
so it appears the majority "enable or allow it to happen."

At this point, I see more and more Muslims SPEAKING OUT and denouncing the terrorism and ISIS.
1. The French Muslims issued a video statement in sympathy and solidarity with their fellow countrymen in mourning
2. A Muslim organization issues a statement that in the case of Ahmed and the clock, the authorities responded as necessary to the potential threat, and they blamed the need for heightened security
on the hostile fear and hype, but not the police they supported in acting accordingly
3. A Muslim Imam also spoke up in agreement with Trump's call to halt immigration "until the security concerns are fully addressed"

This is very important that members of the Muslim community speak for themselves, so they help make this distinction.

If you me or others merely make the "same mistake" of BROAD BRUSHING the entire response as "blaming all Muslims" that's committing the same error.

That causes CENSORSHIP of the attempts to REPORT when Muslims ARE speaking out and representing OPPOSITION and DEFENSE AGAINST Terrorism.

Please do not feed into the "collective stereotype" on either side.

What we need to PROMOTE in the media are more examples of people in each group standing and speaking up for corrections. We need to promote the GOOD examples, and quit endorsing blanket stereotypes we oppose.

So the fact that 90% of the mosques in the US being controlled by Wahhabi extremists is just so much blather in your mind and unrelated to terrorism entirely?

roflmao

Dear JimBowie1958
In Vietnam and China, the communist govt controls the temples and churches, even appts their own leaders as puppets.
but that doesn't mean the followers support that political oppression.

 

[the_human_being]

 

[JimBowie1958]

Dear JimBowie1958
In Vietnam and China, the communist govt controls the temples and churches, even appts their own leaders as puppets.
but that doesn't mean the followers support that political oppression.

That is a good point, but the politcal/social environments are very different.

In China you either go to worship where the government says to or you are a criminal that they can hammer whenever they want.

Here in the USA, Muslims are able to get financing for themselves and grow their own sponsorship, but they are happy enough in the Wahhabi mosques so they dont build alternatives for themselves.

You are comparing apples to pineapples.