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Yeah you’re such a big, strong little boySays the idiot who hides behind the pc police to pretend you are even a fraction of the man I am.Looks like you could use a safe spaceAnother anti-white racist who pretends to be "progressive".^ uh oh, PC police, snowflake alert!The only racism that so called "progressivism" has ever endorsed or ever will endorse is that of the anti-white variety. The KKK and the Democrats who supported Jim Crow never considered themselves as being on the "right side of history" when blacks were 2nd class citizens, they simply believed that segregation was the only option and that whites who loved blacks could very well destroy segregation if given enough time. They never even entertained the notion to play themselves off as victims to people whom they considered their enemies and try to guilt trip them. They knew their morals weren't all that sound and feared that their children would reject their ideals if they weren't kept in line.
Any Republican or conservative who honestly believes that Democrats merely switched their racism alliances needs to understand that today's Democrats honestly do believe that their growing anti-white racist slogans and appeasement of all varieties of anti-white groups that control the minds of their various voting blocks is not only completely morally superior to anything Republicans will ever come up with, but also ultimately on "the right side of history" regardless of its moral standing because of demographics. There isn't a single thing that someone can say or do to white people that will receive any sort of sincere condemnation from faithful Democrats that doesn't at least attempt to tie such an event to past displays of white animosity and hate and consequently mitigate it to irrelevance(like when black kids in Chicago beat up the white Trump supporter on election night, or when black kids abused a white kid with autism on social media, which were quickly forgotten because of "racist Trump supporters" all over the country oppressing non-whites in what later turned out to be hoaxes).
If Republicans don't wake up and realize how pervasive and how institutionalized anti-white racism is and is becoming more so still with each passing moment, they will eventually wake up to realize that the life of a black person in the Jim Crow South was a paradise compared to what awaits us as white people all around the world in just 30 years or so. South Africa isn't an outlier by any stretch of the imagination, it is(as anyone can see from the response of the left in the western world to the situation in South Africa concerning the whites there) the canary in the coal mine. Black people cannot even attempt to compare their experiences of racism to white people any longer, much less claim they are its only victims.
Do you need a blanket and some cookies?
I am not only big and strong compared to your pathetic shriveled form, but also demonstrably among the most intelligent posters on this forum compared to the scared little troll you show yourself to be.Yeah you’re such a big, strong little boySays the idiot who hides behind the pc police to pretend you are even a fraction of the man I am.Looks like you could use a safe spaceAnother anti-white racist who pretends to be "progressive".^ uh oh, PC police, snowflake alert!The only racism that so called "progressivism" has ever endorsed or ever will endorse is that of the anti-white variety. The KKK and the Democrats who supported Jim Crow never considered themselves as being on the "right side of history" when blacks were 2nd class citizens, they simply believed that segregation was the only option and that whites who loved blacks could very well destroy segregation if given enough time. They never even entertained the notion to play themselves off as victims to people whom they considered their enemies and try to guilt trip them. They knew their morals weren't all that sound and feared that their children would reject their ideals if they weren't kept in line.
Any Republican or conservative who honestly believes that Democrats merely switched their racism alliances needs to understand that today's Democrats honestly do believe that their growing anti-white racist slogans and appeasement of all varieties of anti-white groups that control the minds of their various voting blocks is not only completely morally superior to anything Republicans will ever come up with, but also ultimately on "the right side of history" regardless of its moral standing because of demographics. There isn't a single thing that someone can say or do to white people that will receive any sort of sincere condemnation from faithful Democrats that doesn't at least attempt to tie such an event to past displays of white animosity and hate and consequently mitigate it to irrelevance(like when black kids in Chicago beat up the white Trump supporter on election night, or when black kids abused a white kid with autism on social media, which were quickly forgotten because of "racist Trump supporters" all over the country oppressing non-whites in what later turned out to be hoaxes).
If Republicans don't wake up and realize how pervasive and how institutionalized anti-white racism is and is becoming more so still with each passing moment, they will eventually wake up to realize that the life of a black person in the Jim Crow South was a paradise compared to what awaits us as white people all around the world in just 30 years or so. South Africa isn't an outlier by any stretch of the imagination, it is(as anyone can see from the response of the left in the western world to the situation in South Africa concerning the whites there) the canary in the coal mine. Black people cannot even attempt to compare their experiences of racism to white people any longer, much less claim they are its only victims.
Do you need a blanket and some cookies?
Aw using your big boy wordsI am not only big and strong compared to your pathetic shriveled form, but also demonstrably among the most intelligent posters on this forum compared to the scared little troll you show yourself to be.Yeah you’re such a big, strong little boySays the idiot who hides behind the pc police to pretend you are even a fraction of the man I am.Looks like you could use a safe spaceAnother anti-white racist who pretends to be "progressive".^ uh oh, PC police, snowflake alert!
Do you need a blanket and some cookies?
I am beginning to wonder ever more so why W felt the need to coin the term "compassionate conservative" when the term "compassionate progressive" is literally an oxymoron.Pity party.
In my opinion:
Since the 1960s, Caucasian Americans have been the most generous people on earth.
They have done more to correct the injustices of the past than anyone could have ever imagined.
I feel that all non-Caucasian Americans owe a debt of gratitude to Caucasian Americans and should cease demonizing them.
Racism is racism. It doesnt matter what race the racist is, or what race the racist thinks is inferior.
Only a racist thinks other races cant be racist.
Racism is a human thing. Not an American thing. Grow up.Racism is racism. It doesnt matter what race the racist is, or what race the racist thinks is inferior.
Only a racist thinks other races cant be racist.
Whites need to understand they have a history full of racism turning into laws. Whites have a minimum 188 continuous years of this whereby their racism was turned into law and enforced. Let's not have amnesia as white people and not understand that you have this history. No other race in America has this history.
There is no anti white racism.
Whine Merchants: Privilege, Inequality and the Persistent Myth of White Victimhood
Posted on May 13, 2013 -Tim Wise
But what about us?
It’s a question of which white folks seem never to tire when discussing subjects like affirmative action, or other diversity initiatives intended to expand opportunity and access for people of color in higher education and the job market.
Whenever these matters are broached, the vast majority of us rush to protest: How dare schools or employers consider race in hiring or admissions. They should be colorblind, we insist, merely admitting or hiring the most qualified! And more to the point, we proclaim, targeting folks of color for opportunities, by definition, means discrimination against us. Such efforts make us the victims, even, on some accounts, treating white people “exactly” like blacks were treated under Jim Crow segregation (1).
So, yes, it remains the case that even when black folks have college degrees they’re nearly twice as likely as comparable whites to be out of work; and Latinos with degrees are about 50 percent more likely than comparable whites to be out of work; and Asian Americans with degrees are about 40 percent more likely than comparable whites to be out of work (2). And yes, even whites who claim to have criminal records are more likely to be hired than equally qualified blacks without records, but still, can anti-white lynchings be far behind?
And yes, blacks and Latinos combined only represent about 13 percent of students at the most selective colleges and universities — the only ones that actually practice any kind of real affirmative action for admissions — and there are twice as many whites admitted to elite schools with less-than-average qualifications as there are people of color so admitted, but still, can any rational person doubt that whites will soon be limited to mere token representation at the nation’s best educational institutions?
That such hand-wringing about so-called reverse discrimination reeks of intellectual mendacity should be obvious by now. Despite years of so-called reverse racism, whites remain atop every indicator of social and economic well-being when compared to the African Americans and Latinos who, it is claimed, are displacing us from our perch: employment data, income, net worth; you name it, and we are the ones in better shape without exception.
Indeed, in some regards the gaps between whites and folks of color have grown in recent years, as with wealth gaps, which have actually tripled since the 1980s, now leaving the typical white family with over 20 times the net worth of the typical black family and 18 times that of the typical Latino family. Even when comparing families of middle-class income and occupational status, whites possess 3-5 times the net worth of middle class blacks, suggesting that even African Americans who have procured good careers and obtained college degrees lag well behind their white counterparts, due in large measure to the inherited disadvantages of past generations, affirmative action efforts notwithstanding.
This is why, despite affirmative action — which may well be eradicated (at least so far as higher ed is concerned) by the Supreme Court within the month — white racial advantage remains a real and persistent phenomena in American life, and one with which fair-minded persons should still be prepared to grapple.
To claim that affirmative action not only disproves white privilege, but indeed suggests its opposite — black and brown privilege — as many have argued to me via email exchanges, is to ignore the entire social context within which affirmative action occurs.
It’s like protesting that sick people are privileged, relative to the healthy, because there are no hospitals for the latter.
It’s like complaining that the poor are privileged, relative to the well-off, because no one sets up soup kitchens to serve the affluent; nor does Habitat for Humanity ever show up to build mansions for the rich.
In other words, when whites critique affirmative action, we typically ignore everything that came before such efforts — and which unjustly skewed the historical balance of power and access in our favor — and even that which continues to favor us now, from funding and other advantages in the schools that mostly serve our children, to preferential treatment in the housing market, to ongoing advantages in employment.
With companies filling up to half of their new jobs by way of recommendations made by pre-existing employees — a practice that benefits those persons connected to others already in the pipeline, who will disproportionately be white — and with informal, typically white-dominated networks providing the keys to the best jobs in the modern economy, and with research indicating that employers are more likely to hire people they’d like to “hang out with,” than those who are necessarily the most qualified (which will tend to replicate race and class homogeneity), and with blacks significantly underrepresented in management positions, even and especially in work settings that include large numbers of blacks, it stands as uniquely craven to complain about how persons of color are receiving unjust head starts in the labor market. That even middle class blacks, relatively protected by their economic and educational status from overt mistreatment, still suffer disparate rates of job dismissal (even when their performance indicators are comparable to those of whites), lower mobility when compared to similar whites, and regular harassment on the job, makes such arguments all the more repugnant.
And yet, that’s what one can hear, over and again, from the very white Americans who regularly bemoan what they call the “victim” mentality of black folks and other “racial minorities.”
As in, “If I were just black, I’d have gotten into Harvard!” Or, “If my buddy John had been named Juan, he’d have gotten that construction contract,” which arguments brazenly ignore that whites still far outnumber blacks at places like Harvard and white owned businesses continue to receive over 90 percent of government contracts (3). Oh, and such idiocy also, and conveniently, ignores one more not-so-minor matter: namely, that if one had been black, or if one’s friend had been Latino, one’s life and that of said friend would have been completely different, and not only on that day that you or he applied to Harvard or for that particular contract, but every day before that.
In short, claims of white victimhood only make sense if one has so imbibed a mentality of entitlement that one actually believes whites earned all that extra stuff, that we earned our better health, or the relative wealth status we merely inherited from our families (which inherited it from theirs), or preferential treatment from cops. Which is to say, it’s the kind of thing that can only make sense to those lacking the most basic capacity for critical thought, and anything remotely resembling that which we might call, perspective.
Whine Merchants: Privilege, Inequality and the Persistent Myth of White VictimhoodOf course, we all already know IM2 is a YUGE racist..Racism is racism. It doesnt matter what race the racist is, or what race the racist thinks is inferior.
Only a racist thinks other races cant be racist.
Projection. I have already proven that is exactly what you do!There is no anti white racism.
Whine Merchants: Privilege, Inequality and the Persistent Myth of White Victimhood
Posted on May 13, 2013 -Tim Wise
But what about us?
It’s a question of which white folks seem never to tire when discussing subjects like affirmative action, or other diversity initiatives intended to expand opportunity and access for people of color in higher education and the job market.
Whenever these matters are broached, the vast majority of us rush to protest: How dare schools or employers consider race in hiring or admissions. They should be colorblind, we insist, merely admitting or hiring the most qualified! And more to the point, we proclaim, targeting folks of color for opportunities, by definition, means discrimination against us. Such efforts make us the victims, even, on some accounts, treating white people “exactly” like blacks were treated under Jim Crow segregation (1).
So, yes, it remains the case that even when black folks have college degrees they’re nearly twice as likely as comparable whites to be out of work; and Latinos with degrees are about 50 percent more likely than comparable whites to be out of work; and Asian Americans with degrees are about 40 percent more likely than comparable whites to be out of work (2). And yes, even whites who claim to have criminal records are more likely to be hired than equally qualified blacks without records, but still, can anti-white lynchings be far behind?
And yes, blacks and Latinos combined only represent about 13 percent of students at the most selective colleges and universities — the only ones that actually practice any kind of real affirmative action for admissions — and there are twice as many whites admitted to elite schools with less-than-average qualifications as there are people of color so admitted, but still, can any rational person doubt that whites will soon be limited to mere token representation at the nation’s best educational institutions?
That such hand-wringing about so-called reverse discrimination reeks of intellectual mendacity should be obvious by now. Despite years of so-called reverse racism, whites remain atop every indicator of social and economic well-being when compared to the African Americans and Latinos who, it is claimed, are displacing us from our perch: employment data, income, net worth; you name it, and we are the ones in better shape without exception.
Indeed, in some regards the gaps between whites and folks of color have grown in recent years, as with wealth gaps, which have actually tripled since the 1980s, now leaving the typical white family with over 20 times the net worth of the typical black family and 18 times that of the typical Latino family. Even when comparing families of middle-class income and occupational status, whites possess 3-5 times the net worth of middle class blacks, suggesting that even African Americans who have procured good careers and obtained college degrees lag well behind their white counterparts, due in large measure to the inherited disadvantages of past generations, affirmative action efforts notwithstanding.
This is why, despite affirmative action — which may well be eradicated (at least so far as higher ed is concerned) by the Supreme Court within the month — white racial advantage remains a real and persistent phenomena in American life, and one with which fair-minded persons should still be prepared to grapple.
To claim that affirmative action not only disproves white privilege, but indeed suggests its opposite — black and brown privilege — as many have argued to me via email exchanges, is to ignore the entire social context within which affirmative action occurs.
It’s like protesting that sick people are privileged, relative to the healthy, because there are no hospitals for the latter.
It’s like complaining that the poor are privileged, relative to the well-off, because no one sets up soup kitchens to serve the affluent; nor does Habitat for Humanity ever show up to build mansions for the rich.
In other words, when whites critique affirmative action, we typically ignore everything that came before such efforts — and which unjustly skewed the historical balance of power and access in our favor — and even that which continues to favor us now, from funding and other advantages in the schools that mostly serve our children, to preferential treatment in the housing market, to ongoing advantages in employment.
With companies filling up to half of their new jobs by way of recommendations made by pre-existing employees — a practice that benefits those persons connected to others already in the pipeline, who will disproportionately be white — and with informal, typically white-dominated networks providing the keys to the best jobs in the modern economy, and with research indicating that employers are more likely to hire people they’d like to “hang out with,” than those who are necessarily the most qualified (which will tend to replicate race and class homogeneity), and with blacks significantly underrepresented in management positions, even and especially in work settings that include large numbers of blacks, it stands as uniquely craven to complain about how persons of color are receiving unjust head starts in the labor market. That even middle class blacks, relatively protected by their economic and educational status from overt mistreatment, still suffer disparate rates of job dismissal (even when their performance indicators are comparable to those of whites), lower mobility when compared to similar whites, and regular harassment on the job, makes such arguments all the more repugnant.
And yet, that’s what one can hear, over and again, from the very white Americans who regularly bemoan what they call the “victim” mentality of black folks and other “racial minorities.”
As in, “If I were just black, I’d have gotten into Harvard!” Or, “If my buddy John had been named Juan, he’d have gotten that construction contract,” which arguments brazenly ignore that whites still far outnumber blacks at places like Harvard and white owned businesses continue to receive over 90 percent of government contracts (3). Oh, and such idiocy also, and conveniently, ignores one more not-so-minor matter: namely, that if one had been black, or if one’s friend had been Latino, one’s life and that of said friend would have been completely different, and not only on that day that you or he applied to Harvard or for that particular contract, but every day before that.
In short, claims of white victimhood only make sense if one has so imbibed a mentality of entitlement that one actually believes whites earned all that extra stuff, that we earned our better health, or the relative wealth status we merely inherited from our families (which inherited it from theirs), or preferential treatment from cops. Which is to say, it’s the kind of thing that can only make sense to those lacking the most basic capacity for critical thought, and anything remotely resembling that which we might call, perspective.
Whine Merchants: Privilege, Inequality and the Persistent Myth of White VictimhoodOf course, we all already know IM2 is a YUGE racist..Racism is racism. It doesnt matter what race the racist is, or what race the racist thinks is inferior.
Only a racist thinks other races cant be racist.
Actually what we all already know is you guys make up and change the definition of racist each time you get your asses handed to you in these debates.
None of you ever debate any white person who disagrees with you on anything substantial.There is no anti white racism.
Whine Merchants: Privilege, Inequality and the Persistent Myth of White Victimhood
Posted on May 13, 2013 -Tim Wise
But what about us?
It’s a question of which white folks seem never to tire when discussing subjects like affirmative action, or other diversity initiatives intended to expand opportunity and access for people of color in higher education and the job market.
Whenever these matters are broached, the vast majority of us rush to protest: How dare schools or employers consider race in hiring or admissions. They should be colorblind, we insist, merely admitting or hiring the most qualified! And more to the point, we proclaim, targeting folks of color for opportunities, by definition, means discrimination against us. Such efforts make us the victims, even, on some accounts, treating white people “exactly” like blacks were treated under Jim Crow segregation (1).
So, yes, it remains the case that even when black folks have college degrees they’re nearly twice as likely as comparable whites to be out of work; and Latinos with degrees are about 50 percent more likely than comparable whites to be out of work; and Asian Americans with degrees are about 40 percent more likely than comparable whites to be out of work (2). And yes, even whites who claim to have criminal records are more likely to be hired than equally qualified blacks without records, but still, can anti-white lynchings be far behind?
And yes, blacks and Latinos combined only represent about 13 percent of students at the most selective colleges and universities — the only ones that actually practice any kind of real affirmative action for admissions — and there are twice as many whites admitted to elite schools with less-than-average qualifications as there are people of color so admitted, but still, can any rational person doubt that whites will soon be limited to mere token representation at the nation’s best educational institutions?
That such hand-wringing about so-called reverse discrimination reeks of intellectual mendacity should be obvious by now. Despite years of so-called reverse racism, whites remain atop every indicator of social and economic well-being when compared to the African Americans and Latinos who, it is claimed, are displacing us from our perch: employment data, income, net worth; you name it, and we are the ones in better shape without exception.
Indeed, in some regards the gaps between whites and folks of color have grown in recent years, as with wealth gaps, which have actually tripled since the 1980s, now leaving the typical white family with over 20 times the net worth of the typical black family and 18 times that of the typical Latino family. Even when comparing families of middle-class income and occupational status, whites possess 3-5 times the net worth of middle class blacks, suggesting that even African Americans who have procured good careers and obtained college degrees lag well behind their white counterparts, due in large measure to the inherited disadvantages of past generations, affirmative action efforts notwithstanding.
This is why, despite affirmative action — which may well be eradicated (at least so far as higher ed is concerned) by the Supreme Court within the month — white racial advantage remains a real and persistent phenomena in American life, and one with which fair-minded persons should still be prepared to grapple.
To claim that affirmative action not only disproves white privilege, but indeed suggests its opposite — black and brown privilege — as many have argued to me via email exchanges, is to ignore the entire social context within which affirmative action occurs.
It’s like protesting that sick people are privileged, relative to the healthy, because there are no hospitals for the latter.
It’s like complaining that the poor are privileged, relative to the well-off, because no one sets up soup kitchens to serve the affluent; nor does Habitat for Humanity ever show up to build mansions for the rich.
In other words, when whites critique affirmative action, we typically ignore everything that came before such efforts — and which unjustly skewed the historical balance of power and access in our favor — and even that which continues to favor us now, from funding and other advantages in the schools that mostly serve our children, to preferential treatment in the housing market, to ongoing advantages in employment.
With companies filling up to half of their new jobs by way of recommendations made by pre-existing employees — a practice that benefits those persons connected to others already in the pipeline, who will disproportionately be white — and with informal, typically white-dominated networks providing the keys to the best jobs in the modern economy, and with research indicating that employers are more likely to hire people they’d like to “hang out with,” than those who are necessarily the most qualified (which will tend to replicate race and class homogeneity), and with blacks significantly underrepresented in management positions, even and especially in work settings that include large numbers of blacks, it stands as uniquely craven to complain about how persons of color are receiving unjust head starts in the labor market. That even middle class blacks, relatively protected by their economic and educational status from overt mistreatment, still suffer disparate rates of job dismissal (even when their performance indicators are comparable to those of whites), lower mobility when compared to similar whites, and regular harassment on the job, makes such arguments all the more repugnant.
And yet, that’s what one can hear, over and again, from the very white Americans who regularly bemoan what they call the “victim” mentality of black folks and other “racial minorities.”
As in, “If I were just black, I’d have gotten into Harvard!” Or, “If my buddy John had been named Juan, he’d have gotten that construction contract,” which arguments brazenly ignore that whites still far outnumber blacks at places like Harvard and white owned businesses continue to receive over 90 percent of government contracts (3). Oh, and such idiocy also, and conveniently, ignores one more not-so-minor matter: namely, that if one had been black, or if one’s friend had been Latino, one’s life and that of said friend would have been completely different, and not only on that day that you or he applied to Harvard or for that particular contract, but every day before that.
In short, claims of white victimhood only make sense if one has so imbibed a mentality of entitlement that one actually believes whites earned all that extra stuff, that we earned our better health, or the relative wealth status we merely inherited from our families (which inherited it from theirs), or preferential treatment from cops. Which is to say, it’s the kind of thing that can only make sense to those lacking the most basic capacity for critical thought, and anything remotely resembling that which we might call, perspective.
Whine Merchants: Privilege, Inequality and the Persistent Myth of White VictimhoodOf course, we all already know IM2 is a YUGE racist..Racism is racism. It doesnt matter what race the racist is, or what race the racist thinks is inferior.
Only a racist thinks other races cant be racist.
Actually what we all already know is you guys make up and change the definition of racist each time you get your asses handed to you in these debates.
Racism is a human thing. Not an American thing. Grow up.Racism is racism. It doesnt matter what race the racist is, or what race the racist thinks is inferior.
Only a racist thinks other races cant be racist.
Whites need to understand they have a history full of racism turning into laws. Whites have a minimum 188 continuous years of this whereby their racism was turned into law and enforced. Let's not have amnesia as white people and not understand that you have this history. No other race in America has this history.
Racism is all over the world, you idiot.Racism is a human thing. Not an American thing. Grow up.Racism is racism. It doesnt matter what race the racist is, or what race the racist thinks is inferior.
Only a racist thinks other races cant be racist.
Whites need to understand they have a history full of racism turning into laws. Whites have a minimum 188 continuous years of this whereby their racism was turned into law and enforced. Let's not have amnesia as white people and not understand that you have this history. No other race in America has this history.
Racism is not a human thing.
ALL RISE! Class is in session.
Racism is not natural. But in America racism has become so common and accepted that it seems like part of the human condition, like love or poverty. Some do not even notice it except in its more extreme forms. But, as Malcolm X discovered in Mecca, racism does not have to be. It is not something we are born with.
Seeing racism as natural allows whites to believe there is little they can do to make society more just. Fighting racism would be like trying to stop the rain. It excuses inaction.
How do we know that racism is not natural?
First, racism is not built into human nature. If it were we would see it in the Bible, we would see it in the Greeks. Both the Jews and the Greeks divided the world into an us and a them, but neither used race to do it: the Jews used religion and the Greeks used language. The colour of your skin meant little to them.
Second, there is no reason for racism to be wired into our brains by evolution: coming across people of other races was rare till the last few thousand years. Not enough time to affect evolution. Europeans did not even think of themselves as “white” till about 1500: race as we know it is a side effect of ocean travel.
Even in America blacks were made into slaves at first because of religion: they were not Christians. Race as an excuse came later, not till the 1660s.
It was only when race became an excuse for keeping blacks as slaves and taking land from the American Indians, only when society was built on skin colour, that racism began to seem part of the “natural” order of things.
The races in America are not “natural” either. Most countries with blacks and whites see mixed-race people as separate, like in Brazil, South Africa or New Orleans under the French. But not in America. There you have the One Drop Rule: if you look at all part black you are seen as all black. So the “black race” has some people who are 90% white!
What Americans see as the races of man and how they feel about them is not something they were born with – it is learned from a society built by slave owners, by people whose relationship with blacks was a thing of whips and chains.
Even now, more than a hundred years after the slaves were freed, whites still look down on blacks like there is something wrong with them. Whites would rather hire a white man with a prison record than a black man without one; the police can still spend more manpower looking for a dog than for a black woman – or shoot an unarmed black man dead with 50 bullets and call it a “mistake” – and be believed! And on and on. This stuff goes against all common sense. It is not one bit natural.
racism is not natural
I think animus is being confused with racism. A quick perusal of this message board will reveal an astounding display of open hostility accentuated with insulting and derogatory comments towards black people. That is actual racism (based on the belief of white superiority) while the backlash that whites experience when the blacks they are denigrating refuse to let their ignorant and racist comments go unchallenged for some reason is viewed as "racism" on the part of blacks against whites.The only racism that so called "progressivism" has ever endorsed or ever will endorse is that of the anti-white variety. The KKK and the Democrats who supported Jim Crow never considered themselves as being on the "right side of history" when blacks were 2nd class citizens, they simply believed that segregation was the only option and that whites who loved blacks could very well destroy segregation if given enough time. They never even entertained the notion to play themselves off as victims to people whom they considered their enemies and try to guilt trip them. They knew their morals weren't all that sound and feared that their children would reject their ideals if they weren't kept in line.
Every single time any of the legislation or court rulings, policies or procedures are displayed which legally put the rights and concerns of whites above those of blacks, the whining about how long ago that was begins. It does not matter when the lot of you were born, because I was born into a country that was legally segregated. These laws have impacted my life personally. My mom's dad served in the military while it was still segregated and was a Tuskegee airman. Although he is no longer living, she is so she was personally impacted as well as her sisters and all of my aunts and uncles on my dad's side of the family yet both families still prospered.
Whites in America have had almost 171 years head start as far as legally sanctioned & protected opportunities
which were simultaneously denied to blacks so if something is presently going on that is preventing the success that is expected of some of the "superior" race, well then maybe the problem has less to do with what black people are doing and more to do with what white people aren't doing.
None of you ever debate any white person who disagrees with you on anything substantial.There is no anti white racism.
Whine Merchants: Privilege, Inequality and the Persistent Myth of White Victimhood
Posted on May 13, 2013 -Tim Wise
But what about us?
It’s a question of which white folks seem never to tire when discussing subjects like affirmative action, or other diversity initiatives intended to expand opportunity and access for people of color in higher education and the job market.
Whenever these matters are broached, the vast majority of us rush to protest: How dare schools or employers consider race in hiring or admissions. They should be colorblind, we insist, merely admitting or hiring the most qualified! And more to the point, we proclaim, targeting folks of color for opportunities, by definition, means discrimination against us. Such efforts make us the victims, even, on some accounts, treating white people “exactly” like blacks were treated under Jim Crow segregation (1).
So, yes, it remains the case that even when black folks have college degrees they’re nearly twice as likely as comparable whites to be out of work; and Latinos with degrees are about 50 percent more likely than comparable whites to be out of work; and Asian Americans with degrees are about 40 percent more likely than comparable whites to be out of work (2). And yes, even whites who claim to have criminal records are more likely to be hired than equally qualified blacks without records, but still, can anti-white lynchings be far behind?
And yes, blacks and Latinos combined only represent about 13 percent of students at the most selective colleges and universities — the only ones that actually practice any kind of real affirmative action for admissions — and there are twice as many whites admitted to elite schools with less-than-average qualifications as there are people of color so admitted, but still, can any rational person doubt that whites will soon be limited to mere token representation at the nation’s best educational institutions?
That such hand-wringing about so-called reverse discrimination reeks of intellectual mendacity should be obvious by now. Despite years of so-called reverse racism, whites remain atop every indicator of social and economic well-being when compared to the African Americans and Latinos who, it is claimed, are displacing us from our perch: employment data, income, net worth; you name it, and we are the ones in better shape without exception.
Indeed, in some regards the gaps between whites and folks of color have grown in recent years, as with wealth gaps, which have actually tripled since the 1980s, now leaving the typical white family with over 20 times the net worth of the typical black family and 18 times that of the typical Latino family. Even when comparing families of middle-class income and occupational status, whites possess 3-5 times the net worth of middle class blacks, suggesting that even African Americans who have procured good careers and obtained college degrees lag well behind their white counterparts, due in large measure to the inherited disadvantages of past generations, affirmative action efforts notwithstanding.
This is why, despite affirmative action — which may well be eradicated (at least so far as higher ed is concerned) by the Supreme Court within the month — white racial advantage remains a real and persistent phenomena in American life, and one with which fair-minded persons should still be prepared to grapple.
To claim that affirmative action not only disproves white privilege, but indeed suggests its opposite — black and brown privilege — as many have argued to me via email exchanges, is to ignore the entire social context within which affirmative action occurs.
It’s like protesting that sick people are privileged, relative to the healthy, because there are no hospitals for the latter.
It’s like complaining that the poor are privileged, relative to the well-off, because no one sets up soup kitchens to serve the affluent; nor does Habitat for Humanity ever show up to build mansions for the rich.
In other words, when whites critique affirmative action, we typically ignore everything that came before such efforts — and which unjustly skewed the historical balance of power and access in our favor — and even that which continues to favor us now, from funding and other advantages in the schools that mostly serve our children, to preferential treatment in the housing market, to ongoing advantages in employment.
With companies filling up to half of their new jobs by way of recommendations made by pre-existing employees — a practice that benefits those persons connected to others already in the pipeline, who will disproportionately be white — and with informal, typically white-dominated networks providing the keys to the best jobs in the modern economy, and with research indicating that employers are more likely to hire people they’d like to “hang out with,” than those who are necessarily the most qualified (which will tend to replicate race and class homogeneity), and with blacks significantly underrepresented in management positions, even and especially in work settings that include large numbers of blacks, it stands as uniquely craven to complain about how persons of color are receiving unjust head starts in the labor market. That even middle class blacks, relatively protected by their economic and educational status from overt mistreatment, still suffer disparate rates of job dismissal (even when their performance indicators are comparable to those of whites), lower mobility when compared to similar whites, and regular harassment on the job, makes such arguments all the more repugnant.
And yet, that’s what one can hear, over and again, from the very white Americans who regularly bemoan what they call the “victim” mentality of black folks and other “racial minorities.”
As in, “If I were just black, I’d have gotten into Harvard!” Or, “If my buddy John had been named Juan, he’d have gotten that construction contract,” which arguments brazenly ignore that whites still far outnumber blacks at places like Harvard and white owned businesses continue to receive over 90 percent of government contracts (3). Oh, and such idiocy also, and conveniently, ignores one more not-so-minor matter: namely, that if one had been black, or if one’s friend had been Latino, one’s life and that of said friend would have been completely different, and not only on that day that you or he applied to Harvard or for that particular contract, but every day before that.
In short, claims of white victimhood only make sense if one has so imbibed a mentality of entitlement that one actually believes whites earned all that extra stuff, that we earned our better health, or the relative wealth status we merely inherited from our families (which inherited it from theirs), or preferential treatment from cops. Which is to say, it’s the kind of thing that can only make sense to those lacking the most basic capacity for critical thought, and anything remotely resembling that which we might call, perspective.
Whine Merchants: Privilege, Inequality and the Persistent Myth of White VictimhoodOf course, we all already know IM2 is a YUGE racist..Racism is racism. It doesnt matter what race the racist is, or what race the racist thinks is inferior.
Only a racist thinks other races cant be racist.
Actually what we all already know is you guys make up and change the definition of racist each time you get your asses handed to you in these debates.
You have had a monopoly on race discussions for literally decades now.
Whites were so bad for slavery. But lets ignore all the other slavery. The white man being enslaved. Or the fact your great great great grandfathers tribal leader that thought more of a bucket of oranges than him.
JS
I think animus is being confused with racism. A quick perusal of this message board will reveal an astounding display of open hostility accentuated with insulting and derogatory comments towards black people. That is actual racism (based on the belief of white superiority) while the backlash that whites experience when the blacks they are denigrating refuse to let their ignorant and racist comments go unchallenged for some reason is viewed as "racism" on the part of blacks against whites.The only racism that so called "progressivism" has ever endorsed or ever will endorse is that of the anti-white variety. The KKK and the Democrats who supported Jim Crow never considered themselves as being on the "right side of history" when blacks were 2nd class citizens, they simply believed that segregation was the only option and that whites who loved blacks could very well destroy segregation if given enough time. They never even entertained the notion to play themselves off as victims to people whom they considered their enemies and try to guilt trip them. They knew their morals weren't all that sound and feared that their children would reject their ideals if they weren't kept in line.
Every single time any of the legislation or court rulings, policies or procedures are displayed which legally put the rights and concerns of whites above those of blacks, the whining about how long ago that was begins. It does not matter when the lot of you were born, because I was born into a country that was legally segregated. These laws have impacted my life personally. My mom's dad served in the military while it was still segregated and was a Tuskegee airman. Although he is no longer living, she is so she was personally impacted as well as her sisters and all of my aunts and uncles on my dad's side of the family yet both families still prospered.
Whites in America have had almost 171 years head start as far as legally sanctioned & protected opportunities
which were simultaneously denied to blacks so if something is presently going on that is preventing the success that is expected of some of the "superior" race, well then maybe the problem has less to do with what black people are doing and more to do with what white people aren't doing.
^^^ A glaring example of Racist Race Baiting Racism against Whites ^^^
