MAGAman
Pro-American Patriot
Horowitz says otherwise.None of those things happened.
Is he a Russian spy too?
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Horowitz says otherwise.None of those things happened.
The only proven lies are the ones you're speaking.Another Lie debunked-IG report concludes FBI did not spy on trump campaignHe will be able to look into the Durham report.
No more than he looked into the Mueller report, God you're stupid.
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What I am is right.
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I've already proved that a lie, I won't circle back to it and play a game of semantics. Covert surveillance, CHSs wearing recording devices, is spying. The IG reports proves that happened.
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Half the idiots agree with you and half of us know you're full of it.trump lied to you. And you fell for it. There are at least 8 heads that need to roll Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani, Energy Secretary Rick Perry, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, ex-national security adviser John Bolton, acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney, Vice President Mike Pence, trump and I am including William Barr. There was no deep state. There was no coup. There is no witch hunt or hoax.
There was nothing but a bunch of trumps lies.
The time has come for trump.
In a huge blow to Trump, the DOJ watchdog found no evidence to support the claim that the FBI spied on his 2016 campaign
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Sonam Sheth and Eliza Relman
The Justice Department's inspector general found no evidence to support President Donald Trump's claim that the FBI inserted spies in his 2016 presidential campaign, The New York Times reported on Wednesday, citing people familiar with a draft of the report.
Trump has repeatedly and baselessly alleged that the FBI inserted covert operators in his campaign.
He also alleged, without evidence, that former President Barack Obama had intelligence officials tap his phones, a claim the report is also expected to undercut.
Sources told The Times and The Washington Post that while the report undermines Trump's most extreme claims, it also faults the FBI for making bureaucratic mistakes when applying for a warrant to surveil Carter Page, a former Trump campaign aide.
The Justice Department's inspector general found no evidence to support President Donald Trump's claim that the FBI spied on his 2016 presidential campaign while investigating whether the campaign was conspiring with the Russian government to interfere in the election, The New York Times reported on Wednesday, citing people familiar with a draft of the report.
In a huge blow to Trump, the DOJ watchdog found no evidence to support the claim that the FBI spied on his 2016 campaign
A perfect microcosm of the USA right now.
Horowitz didn't say that.Horowitz says otherwise.None of those things happened.
Is he a Russian spy too?
Mmmm.. Yeah.. He did.Horowitz didn't say that.
Horowitz's answer is based on a hypothetical question, not what he reported.Mmmm.. Yeah.. He did.Horowitz didn't say that.
You need more news sources.
Inspector General Report Hearing Transcript: Michael Horowitz Testifies on FBI's Findings - Rev
M. Horowitz: (17:28)
The incident, the event, the meeting was a briefing, and the FBI considered and decided to send that agent there to do the briefing. So the agent was actually doing the briefing but also using it for the purpose of investigation.
Lindsey Graham: (17:44)
Okay, and I hope that doesn’t happen to us tomorrow. I’ll be really pissed if does. Okay, so let’s play this out. They never told Trump about the concerns. Is it fair to say there came a point that where surveilling Carter Page became unlawful?
M. Horowitz: (18:06)
I will let the court decide that. The court has this report and will make that decision.
Lindsey Graham: (18:10)
Let’s put it this way. If you don’t have a legal foundation to surveil somebody and you keep doing it, is that bad?
M. Horowitz: (18:17)
Absolutely.
Lindsey Graham: (18:19)
Is that spying?
M. Horowitz: (18:22)
It’s illegal surveillance. It’s not court authorized surveillance under FISA.
Pathetic spin.Horowitz's answer is based on a hypothetical question, not what he reported.
"If you don’t have a legal foundation to surveil somebody and you keep doing it, is that bad?"
I didn't count, lying con tool, but it was a term they used from day one. Pretending like they only started using it after jobs numbers came in is you lying.How often did they use it before the stimulus cratered...and how often did they use it AFTER? You're the bullshit artist when it comes to this, Faun...not I!"If the stimulus had actually created millions of job then they wouldn't have had to use "jobs created or saved" to mask how few they DID create!"The stimulus package? That created so few new jobs that the Obama Administration resorted to "jobs created or saved" to hide how few they actually DID create! TARP was George W. Bush's baby not Obama's. Barry primarily used TARP money to reward his political supporters and much of that money was wasted on companies that went belly up after taking our tax dollars! (like Solyndra!) How Obama handled the auto bail out was to screw over creditors and reward the auto workers unions. It ended up costing tax payers billions and is the kind of governmental overreach that makes investors leery of putting their capital into US businesses.
Bullshit. The stimulus generated millions of jobs. TARP was used by both administrations to prevent financial crisis. Creditors were always going to get screwed by bankruptcy. That’s how bankruptcy works. They got a better deal than they would have. Farm bailouts under Trump have cost twice as much as the auto bailouts, saved far fewer jobs, but y’all don’t seem to worry about government overreach when the beneficiaries are all red state toadies.
If the stimulus had actually created millions of job then they wouldn't have had to use "jobs created or saved" to mask how few they DID create!
TARP was used by both Administrations. We got repaid with interest with the TARP loans that Bush made. We got screwed out of billions on the loans that Barry made! The order of how creditors would be paid was altered by the Obama Administration so that the unions were taken care of before other creditors. That's not the way that bankruptcy works!
Lying con tool, the Obama administration had been using the term, jobs created or saved, before ARRA was even passed.
Do you ever stop lying?
Ever???
Yet you just went off whining that he helped union workers more than investors. Good god man, there’s no making you happy.Obama did NOT protect the working man! Over the course of his administrations the rich got richer and the working class got poorer. Trump on the other hand has created jobs and increased pay for the jobs that people have. THAT protects the working man!If it hasn’t created millions of jobs the unemployment rate wouldn’t have been south of 5% when Trump took office.The stimulus package? That created so few new jobs that the Obama Administration resorted to "jobs created or saved" to hide how few they actually DID create! TARP was George W. Bush's baby not Obama's. Barry primarily used TARP money to reward his political supporters and much of that money was wasted on companies that went belly up after taking our tax dollars! (like Solyndra!) How Obama handled the auto bail out was to screw over creditors and reward the auto workers unions. It ended up costing tax payers billions and is the kind of governmental overreach that makes investors leery of putting their capital into US businesses.
Bullshit. The stimulus generated millions of jobs. TARP was used by both administrations to prevent financial crisis. Creditors were always going to get screwed by bankruptcy. That’s how bankruptcy works. They got a better deal than they would have. Farm bailouts under Trump have cost twice as much as the auto bailouts, saved far fewer jobs, but y’all don’t seem to worry about government overreach when the beneficiaries are all red state toadies.
If the stimulus had actually created millions of job then they wouldn't have had to use "jobs created or saved" to mask how few they DID create!
TARP was used by both Administrations. We got repaid with interest with the TARP loans that Bush made. We got screwed out of billions on the loans that Barry made! The order of how creditors would be paid was altered by the Obama Administration so that the unions were taken care of before other creditors. That's not the way that bankruptcy works!
Obama protecting them working man. God. What an asshole.
Just for the record, median household income rose substantially during the Obama administration. Wealth inequality has been climbing and continues to climb at a rapid pace helped in large part by Trump policies.
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I noticed you missed the part that Horowitz clearly and definitively stated that the Obama FBI did in fact Spy (actually he said "Surveille") on the Trump Campaign illegally by using illegally manufactured information and DNC/Hillary purchased lies to get a warrant.The only thing Jordan picked was his nose. He's holding up his picking finger to show he didn't pull out a booger. He looks rather surprised.
No one has done that. And the Obama FBI did none of what you claim. Now you can repeat that lie to yourself everyday until Durham shows nothing happened, but I am not going to keep arguing with idiots who think debate means you get to make shit up and say it over and over.IM2?
Faun?
Now that I've proven to a100% certainty, that the Obama FBI did in fact spy, illegally on the Trump campaign, you've both gone silent.
Comment?
I didn't miss jack shit.I noticed you missed the part that Horowitz clearly and definitively stated that the Obama FBI did in fact Spy (actually he said "Surveille") on the Trump Campaign illegally by using illegally manufactured information and DNC/Hillary purchased lies to get a warrant.The only thing Jordan picked was his nose. He's holding up his picking finger to show he didn't pull out a booger. He looks rather surprised.
Comment?
Man up. I've admitted several times I was wrong. It's not as bad as you seem to think it is.
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The only thing Jordan picked was his nose. He's holding up his picking finger to show he didn't pull out a booger. He looks rather surprised.
Well comment on the fact that Horowitz found exactly what Rush, Nunes, Hannity, and I (and lots of others) told you that Horowitz would find:I didn't miss jack shit.I noticed you missed the part that Horowitz clearly and definitively stated that the Obama FBI did in fact Spy (actually he said "Surveille") on the Trump Campaign illegally by using illegally manufactured information and DNC/Hillary purchased lies to get a warrant.The only thing Jordan picked was his nose. He's holding up his picking finger to show he didn't pull out a booger. He looks rather surprised.
Comment?
Man up. I've admitted several times I was wrong. It's not as bad as you seem to think it is.
I noticed you missed the part that Horowitz clearly and definitively stated that the Obama FBI did in fact Spy (actually he said "Surveille") on the Trump Campaign illegally by using illegally manufactured information and DNC/Hillary purchased lies to get a warrant.The only thing Jordan picked was his nose. He's holding up his picking finger to show he didn't pull out a booger. He looks rather surprised.
Comment?
Man up. I've admitted several times I was wrong. It's not as bad as you seem to think it is.
Well comment on the fact that Horowitz found exactly what Rush, Nunes, Hannity, and I (and lots of others) told you that Horowitz would find:I didn't miss jack shit.I noticed you missed the part that Horowitz clearly and definitively stated that the Obama FBI did in fact Spy (actually he said "Surveille") on the Trump Campaign illegally by using illegally manufactured information and DNC/Hillary purchased lies to get a warrant.The only thing Jordan picked was his nose. He's holding up his picking finger to show he didn't pull out a booger. He looks rather surprised.
Comment?
Man up. I've admitted several times I was wrong. It's not as bad as you seem to think it is.
1. The Steele Dossier was central to the FISA warrant to spy on Page and his past, which included his emails and other electronic data from when he was a member of the Trump Campaign.
2. The Steele Dossier was paid for by Clinton/DNC.
3. The Steele Dossier was easily proven false.
4. The Obama FBI did not tell the FISA Judge that the dossier was false.
5. The Obama FBI did not tell the FISA Judge that the dossier was paid for by Hillary/DNC.
6. The Obama FBI used electronic surveillance, thanks to the illegal warrant, to spy on the Trump Campaign.
The only BIG thing I learned by the Horowitz report/Hearing was that the Obama FBI actually manufactured evidence (Changed an email from "was a CIA informant" to "was not a CIA informant") to keep renewing the FISA warrants.
Really... Man up and admit you were misinformed by your anti-Trump news sources and you swallowed the hook.
Like I said. I've admitted I was wrong before. It's OK.
Some Libtards will call you "Uncle Tom" or something similar for being honest, but I think you can take it.