Another Federal Appeals Court Strikes Down DOMA

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    New York appeals court strikes down DOMA - CNN.com

    The long and the short of their decision is that DOMA violates the 14th amendment, which is exactly correct. DOMA is unequal protection of the laws, granting special privileges to opposite-sex couples and withholding them from same-sex couples.

    A same-sex married couple cannot file a federal married tax return, nor can a same-sex spouse collect Social Security death benefits, nor can they exercise a myriad of other privileges extended to opposite-sex couples.

    So, either remove the marriage privileges that are currently granted only to opposite-sex couples, or grant them to same-sex and opposite-sex couples alike.

    There is no rational objection anyone can raise to granting the privilege of a married tax return to same-sex couples. There is no rational objection anyone can raise to granting Social Security death benefits to same-sex couples.

    No societal harm arises from these activities.
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    That's why it has to be decided in the Supreme Court. We have a nation in decline and decay, I expect DOMA to be struck down by the Supreme Court, we are simply becoming too degenerate to survive.
     
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    Can you explain how two adults in a monogamous relationship filing a married tax return is degenerate?

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    Aka government sticks its nose where it doesn't belong AGAIN....government has no business in marriage...its a contract between people that's all...no need for government to enforce people's beliefs in what marriage is based on some book of fiction.
     
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    There is nothing preventing them from marrying someone of the opposite sex, so how has equal protection been denied?

    Marriage has always been a contract between a man and a woman, or hell, a man and several women.

    Even if you get by on the equal protection route, You can give same sex couples the same rights in another contract recognized by the state, and equal protection can be met.

    I am denied the right to marry someone because I havent found someone dumb enough to marry me yet, Are my rights under equal protection denied?
     
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    You are completely ignoring the fact that a contract carries legal issues which must be resolved by government. As long as people keep breaking those contracts through divorce and upon their deaths, government will be involved. Striking down DOMA has nothing to do with enforcing people's beliefs. This has to do with enforcing the law.
     
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    Once again...slowly...the law...grants the privilege of a married tax return to...opposite-sex couples... by law. That is the key part. The law. "Equal protection of the laws". That the law denies a married tax return to...same-sex couples...means same-sex couples...do not have equal protection of that law.

    That is all they are asking for! Right now, DOMA denies the recognition of a same-sex couple's marriage contract.

    That is why DOMA has been struck down.



    The law is not denying you marriage or the privilege of filing a married tax return if you marry someone of the opposite sex.

    This should be blindingly obvious.


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    This is excellent news.
     
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    Let's not forget...keeping this political and all, that the House spent over a million dollars so far defending it. $1.5 to be exact.
     

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