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You asked a question and gave a good example of what they twist. in 2016 confidence was dropping with clinton getting into the election run for president. When the media was carrying her water and people thought she was going to win. But after the election with a Trump win, it went back up.Consumer confidence at an 18 year high
This means unless the GOP ROYALLY SCREWS UP CLEAN PATH TO MAINTAINING CONGRESSIONAL CONTROL
https://www.nasdaq.com/article/consumer-confidence-jumps-to-18-year-high-etfs-to-watch-cm972510
What do liberals twist exactly?
Consumer confidence is at an 18 year high.
Fine. From 2009 until now a Democratic president over saw 8 years of this rise, and the Republicans saw less than two.
The electoral college was put in place so large states would not overrun small states. WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACYand Trump got majority votes in 30 states ballon baby what is your point?if you say so ballon baby it doesn't make it true but the socialist state of California does not make America.
America resounding said go fvck yourself.
HRC got 3,000,000 more votes than the blob. 30+ GOP secretaries of state signed off on the totals. Shove that up your ass fuck face.
So? There are 50 states in the union shit brains. You count the votes from all 50 states...
Ms. Clinton smoked your boy in the popular vote.
Ask a 2nd grade social studies teacher to explain it to you fuck face.
Electoral College is why Trump is president and not Clinton. The popular means little, I know there is a movement to change the election system however as with the push in 2000, I believe this one will go away also. We Americans don't have the desire to change the status quo, so it will likely remain.
It should go away. The EC is one of the best ideas our founders had.
Still, the people preferred Hillary when you count popular votes.
The electors preferred Trump when you count electoral votes.
The electors are what we go by.
I do wish that you and the other conservatives could accept the fact of the popular vote victory by Ms. Clinton. I (and most other liberals) have accepted the hollowness of the victory.
Deal?
and Trump got majority votes in 30 states ballon baby what is your point?if you say so ballon baby it doesn't make it true but the socialist state of California does not make America.
America resounding said go fvck yourself.
HRC got 3,000,000 more votes than the blob. 30+ GOP secretaries of state signed off on the totals. Shove that up your ass fuck face.
So? There are 50 states in the union shit brains. You count the votes from all 50 states...
Ms. Clinton smoked your boy in the popular vote.
Ask a 2nd grade social studies teacher to explain it to you fuck face.
Electoral College is why Trump is president and not Clinton. The popular means little, I know there is a movement to change the election system however as with the push in 2000, I believe this one will go away also. We Americans don't have the desire to change the status quo, so it will likely remain.
It should go away. The EC is one of the best ideas our founders had.
Still, the people preferred Hillary when you count popular votes.
The electors preferred Trump when you count electoral votes.
The electors are what we go by.
I do wish that you and the other conservatives could accept the fact of the popular vote victory by Ms. Clinton. I (and most other liberals) have accepted the hollowness of the victory.
Deal?
Californa is whyand Trump got majority votes in 30 states ballon baby what is your point?HRC got 3,000,000 more votes than the blob. 30+ GOP secretaries of state signed off on the totals. Shove that up your ass fuck face.
So? There are 50 states in the union shit brains. You count the votes from all 50 states...
Ms. Clinton smoked your boy in the popular vote.
Ask a 2nd grade social studies teacher to explain it to you fuck face.
Electoral College is why Trump is president and not Clinton. The popular means little, I know there is a movement to change the election system however as with the push in 2000, I believe this one will go away also. We Americans don't have the desire to change the status quo, so it will likely remain.
It should go away. The EC is one of the best ideas our founders had.
Still, the people preferred Hillary when you count popular votes.
The electors preferred Trump when you count electoral votes.
The electors are what we go by.
I do wish that you and the other conservatives could accept the fact of the popular vote victory by Ms. Clinton. I (and most other liberals) have accepted the hollowness of the victory.
Deal?
Deal, I accept that.
She ran a good race and that has to be a bitter defeat. The Republicans need to figure out why they lost the popular vote and be grateful they won the popular vote. The Democrats need to figure out why they lost to Trump and why those Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania went to Trump. I don't think Clinton lost because of Russia, I believe they she lost because voters got tired of Bush, Clinton and Obama not listening to them and took a gamble on Trump and his promises. I didn't vote for either because I dislike both of them. The both spend too much and we need to cut spending and raise taxes, we need to get out of the middle east and both will lie about anything and everything.
and Trump got majority votes in 30 states ballon baby what is your point?HRC got 3,000,000 more votes than the blob. 30+ GOP secretaries of state signed off on the totals. Shove that up your ass fuck face.
So? There are 50 states in the union shit brains. You count the votes from all 50 states...
Ms. Clinton smoked your boy in the popular vote.
Ask a 2nd grade social studies teacher to explain it to you fuck face.
Electoral College is why Trump is president and not Clinton. The popular means little, I know there is a movement to change the election system however as with the push in 2000, I believe this one will go away also. We Americans don't have the desire to change the status quo, so it will likely remain.
It should go away. The EC is one of the best ideas our founders had.
Still, the people preferred Hillary when you count popular votes.
The electors preferred Trump when you count electoral votes.
The electors are what we go by.
I do wish that you and the other conservatives could accept the fact of the popular vote victory by Ms. Clinton. I (and most other liberals) have accepted the hollowness of the victory.
Deal?
Deal, I accept that.
She ran a good race and that has to be a bitter defeat. The Republicans need to figure out why they lost the popular vote and be grateful they won the popular vote. The Democrats need to figure out why they lost to Trump and why those Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania went to Trump. I don't think Clinton lost because of Russia, I believe they she lost because voters got tired of Bush, Clinton and Obama not listening to them and took a gamble on Trump and his promises. I didn't vote for either because I dislike both of them. The both spend too much and we need to cut spending and raise taxes, we need to get out of the middle east and both will lie about anything and everything.
Californa is whyand Trump got majority votes in 30 states ballon baby what is your point?
So? There are 50 states in the union shit brains. You count the votes from all 50 states...
Ms. Clinton smoked your boy in the popular vote.
Ask a 2nd grade social studies teacher to explain it to you fuck face.
Electoral College is why Trump is president and not Clinton. The popular means little, I know there is a movement to change the election system however as with the push in 2000, I believe this one will go away also. We Americans don't have the desire to change the status quo, so it will likely remain.
It should go away. The EC is one of the best ideas our founders had.
Still, the people preferred Hillary when you count popular votes.
The electors preferred Trump when you count electoral votes.
The electors are what we go by.
I do wish that you and the other conservatives could accept the fact of the popular vote victory by Ms. Clinton. I (and most other liberals) have accepted the hollowness of the victory.
Deal?
Deal, I accept that.
She ran a good race and that has to be a bitter defeat. The Republicans need to figure out why they lost the popular vote and be grateful they won the popular vote. The Democrats need to figure out why they lost to Trump and why those Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania went to Trump. I don't think Clinton lost because of Russia, I believe they she lost because voters got tired of Bush, Clinton and Obama not listening to them and took a gamble on Trump and his promises. I didn't vote for either because I dislike both of them. The both spend too much and we need to cut spending and raise taxes, we need to get out of the middle east and both will lie about anything and everything.
voter ID needs to be enforced and crooked California needs to be monitored
Trump didn't get any illegal votesCaliforna is whySo? There are 50 states in the union shit brains. You count the votes from all 50 states...
Ms. Clinton smoked your boy in the popular vote.
Ask a 2nd grade social studies teacher to explain it to you fuck face.
Electoral College is why Trump is president and not Clinton. The popular means little, I know there is a movement to change the election system however as with the push in 2000, I believe this one will go away also. We Americans don't have the desire to change the status quo, so it will likely remain.
It should go away. The EC is one of the best ideas our founders had.
Still, the people preferred Hillary when you count popular votes.
The electors preferred Trump when you count electoral votes.
The electors are what we go by.
I do wish that you and the other conservatives could accept the fact of the popular vote victory by Ms. Clinton. I (and most other liberals) have accepted the hollowness of the victory.
Deal?
Deal, I accept that.
She ran a good race and that has to be a bitter defeat. The Republicans need to figure out why they lost the popular vote and be grateful they won the popular vote. The Democrats need to figure out why they lost to Trump and why those Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania went to Trump. I don't think Clinton lost because of Russia, I believe they she lost because voters got tired of Bush, Clinton and Obama not listening to them and took a gamble on Trump and his promises. I didn't vote for either because I dislike both of them. The both spend too much and we need to cut spending and raise taxes, we need to get out of the middle east and both will lie about anything and everything.
voter ID needs to be enforced and crooked California needs to be monitored
Trump got 3x as many illegal votes as Clinton did.
When you show me the proof with specific numbers of the votes that put clinton over the top….I’ll show you my proof of Trump’s illegal voting block. You first.
The floor is yours; furnish your proof.
Or withdraw like the little bitch you are.
Trump didn't get any illegal votesCaliforna is whyElectoral College is why Trump is president and not Clinton. The popular means little, I know there is a movement to change the election system however as with the push in 2000, I believe this one will go away also. We Americans don't have the desire to change the status quo, so it will likely remain.
It should go away. The EC is one of the best ideas our founders had.
Still, the people preferred Hillary when you count popular votes.
The electors preferred Trump when you count electoral votes.
The electors are what we go by.
I do wish that you and the other conservatives could accept the fact of the popular vote victory by Ms. Clinton. I (and most other liberals) have accepted the hollowness of the victory.
Deal?
Deal, I accept that.
She ran a good race and that has to be a bitter defeat. The Republicans need to figure out why they lost the popular vote and be grateful they won the popular vote. The Democrats need to figure out why they lost to Trump and why those Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania went to Trump. I don't think Clinton lost because of Russia, I believe they she lost because voters got tired of Bush, Clinton and Obama not listening to them and took a gamble on Trump and his promises. I didn't vote for either because I dislike both of them. The both spend too much and we need to cut spending and raise taxes, we need to get out of the middle east and both will lie about anything and everything.
voter ID needs to be enforced and crooked California needs to be monitored
Trump got 3x as many illegal votes as Clinton did.
When you show me the proof with specific numbers of the votes that put clinton over the top….I’ll show you my proof of Trump’s illegal voting block. You first.
The floor is yours; furnish your proof.
Or withdraw like the little bitch you are.
What I will admit to is that I do not know a whole lot about tariffs. But I do know that every administration has used them as a tool to regulate trade. But none have gone about in the extreme and bellicose way that Trump has, targeting a large array of goods, and alienating long time and important trading partners, including allies.YOU are dismissed. I have better things to do other than bother with intellectually lazy or incompetent blabber mouths who refuse to or are unable to actually deal with information that they don't likeSo you refuse to consider any information that challenges your narrow and biased views. Thank you for admitting that. And you call yourself "thinker"No didn't miss them, dismissed them.
No, I usually find myself dismissing stupid ass posts.
All my life it was Democrats I argued with because I was (and still am) anti-tariff and you were all pro-tariff.
You say you want to be serious, here's your chance. Admit and explain how that policy shift for Democrats under Trump isn't just political
In addition, the tariffs on aluminum and steel are unorthodox and seen as extreme. His whole approach smacks of promoting isolationism more than an attempt to achieve fair trade. My objection is not simply political
Trump didn't get any illegal votesCaliforna is whyElectoral College is why Trump is president and not Clinton. The popular means little, I know there is a movement to change the election system however as with the push in 2000, I believe this one will go away also. We Americans don't have the desire to change the status quo, so it will likely remain.
It should go away. The EC is one of the best ideas our founders had.
Still, the people preferred Hillary when you count popular votes.
The electors preferred Trump when you count electoral votes.
The electors are what we go by.
I do wish that you and the other conservatives could accept the fact of the popular vote victory by Ms. Clinton. I (and most other liberals) have accepted the hollowness of the victory.
Deal?
Deal, I accept that.
She ran a good race and that has to be a bitter defeat. The Republicans need to figure out why they lost the popular vote and be grateful they won the popular vote. The Democrats need to figure out why they lost to Trump and why those Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania went to Trump. I don't think Clinton lost because of Russia, I believe they she lost because voters got tired of Bush, Clinton and Obama not listening to them and took a gamble on Trump and his promises. I didn't vote for either because I dislike both of them. The both spend too much and we need to cut spending and raise taxes, we need to get out of the middle east and both will lie about anything and everything.
voter ID needs to be enforced and crooked California needs to be monitored
Trump got 3x as many illegal votes as Clinton did.
When you show me the proof with specific numbers of the votes that put clinton over the top….I’ll show you my proof of Trump’s illegal voting block. You first.
The floor is yours; furnish your proof.
Or withdraw like the little bitch you are.
What I will admit to is that I do not know a whole lot about tariffs. But I do know that every administration has used them as a tool to regulate trade. But none have gone about in the extreme and bellicose way that Trump has, targeting a large array of goods, and alienating long time and important trading partners, including allies.YOU are dismissed. I have better things to do other than bother with intellectually lazy or incompetent blabber mouths who refuse to or are unable to actually deal with information that they don't likeSo you refuse to consider any information that challenges your narrow and biased views. Thank you for admitting that. And you call yourself "thinker"
No, I usually find myself dismissing stupid ass posts.
All my life it was Democrats I argued with because I was (and still am) anti-tariff and you were all pro-tariff.
You say you want to be serious, here's your chance. Admit and explain how that policy shift for Democrats under Trump isn't just political
In addition, the tariffs on aluminum and steel are unorthodox and seen as extreme. His whole approach smacks of promoting isolationism more than an attempt to achieve fair trade. My objection is not simply political
How about we just stick with "you don't know a whole lot about tariffs"....and trade.
Typical lying scum Right-wing lying technique, When a stat goes DOWN, cite an older stat! June 2018 consumer confidence is DOWN so cite an earlier month when it was higher!!!!Consumer confidence at an 18 year high
Or if it is not the truth it is fake news and if it is true it is not fake news. Consumer confidence was DOWN in June 2018, that is a fact,."If I don't like it, it's fake news. If I like it, it's not fake news".
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Exactly, but the thing is that Consumer Confidence is DOWN in June 2018, the lying scum Right just ignore that fact and refer back to a time when it once was up as if it is still up.Consumer Confidence is the best you got?Consumer confidence at an 18 year high
This means unless the GOP ROYALLY SCREWS UP CLEAN PATH TO MAINTAINING CONGRESSIONAL CONTROL
https://www.nasdaq.com/article/consumer-confidence-jumps-to-18-year-high-etfs-to-watch-cm972510
When Obama was president, Conservatives told us unemployment was the key economic factor
Then it was debt
Then it was gas prices
Then it was labor participation rate
Then it was a year of GDP above 3 percent
Now, you guys are hawking “consumer confidence” ?
Of course the data and the facts say that Consumer Confidence was DOWN in June 2018, so it can't be at a 18 year high!!!But that's only if you believe in data and facts and that sort of nonsense. What we should be believing is leftist ideologyHistorically it does drive the economy
Californa is whySo? There are 50 states in the union shit brains. You count the votes from all 50 states...
Ms. Clinton smoked your boy in the popular vote.
Ask a 2nd grade social studies teacher to explain it to you fuck face.
Electoral College is why Trump is president and not Clinton. The popular means little, I know there is a movement to change the election system however as with the push in 2000, I believe this one will go away also. We Americans don't have the desire to change the status quo, so it will likely remain.
It should go away. The EC is one of the best ideas our founders had.
Still, the people preferred Hillary when you count popular votes.
The electors preferred Trump when you count electoral votes.
The electors are what we go by.
I do wish that you and the other conservatives could accept the fact of the popular vote victory by Ms. Clinton. I (and most other liberals) have accepted the hollowness of the victory.
Deal?
Deal, I accept that.
She ran a good race and that has to be a bitter defeat. The Republicans need to figure out why they lost the popular vote and be grateful they won the popular vote. The Democrats need to figure out why they lost to Trump and why those Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania went to Trump. I don't think Clinton lost because of Russia, I believe they she lost because voters got tired of Bush, Clinton and Obama not listening to them and took a gamble on Trump and his promises. I didn't vote for either because I dislike both of them. The both spend too much and we need to cut spending and raise taxes, we need to get out of the middle east and both will lie about anything and everything.
voter ID needs to be enforced and crooked California needs to be monitored
Trump got 3x as many illegal votes as Clinton did.
When you show me the proof with specific numbers of the votes that put clinton over the top….I’ll show you my proof of Trump’s illegal voting block. You first.
The floor is yours; furnish your proof.
Or withdraw like the little bitch you are.
Of course the data and the facts say that Consumer Confidence was DOWN in June 2018, so it can't be at a 18 year high!!!But that's only if you believe in data and facts and that sort of nonsense. What we should be believing is leftist ideologyHistorically it does drive the economy
So you are saying we should believe lying scum Right-wing lies and that sort of nonsense!
Consumer confidence numbers are easy to confirm. If the numbers were down in June, then there ya go, they were down. If the OP is claiming they're up, and they're not, the OP is either wrong or lying.Or if it is not the truth it is fake news and if it is true it is not fake news. Consumer confidence was DOWN in June 2018, that is a fact,.So I ask you Mr Both Sides Do it, Is the OP fake news or not, whether you like it or not????? Remember this is July 2018 when the OP was posted."If I don't like it, it's fake news. If I like it, it's not fake news".
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Of course the data and the facts say that Consumer Confidence was DOWN in June 2018, so it can't be at a 18 year high!!!But that's only if you believe in data and facts and that sort of nonsense. What we should be believing is leftist ideologyHistorically it does drive the economy
So you are saying we should believe lying scum Right-wing lies and that sort of nonsense!
The OP provided a link. You didn't, lemur
I thought you know-it-alls were the high-information voters, how is it that suddenly you know nothing?????Of course the data and the facts say that Consumer Confidence was DOWN in June 2018, so it can't be at a 18 year high!!!But that's only if you believe in data and facts and that sort of nonsense. What we should be believing is leftist ideologyHistorically it does drive the economy
So you are saying we should believe lying scum Right-wing lies and that sort of nonsense!
The OP provided a link. You didn't, lemur
