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I have frequently challenged those who have been brainwashed with the “Nazis are left wing” meme to visit some real Nazis on Stormfront for a while. None have ever taken me up on it.
But for those who are curious about Nazis and might like to visit them, here are a few things you need to know to better understand them. This will save you some time and embarrassment. Like all societies, they have their own language and neologism.
It has been awhile since I have dealt directly with Nazis online or in real life, so some of the rules and operating procedures of the Stormfront forum may be different than my last visit.
First, if you are opposed to Nazis, then you are an “anti”. Antis are forbidden to post wherever they choose. They are relegated to one subforum. You can read the other forums, but cannot post there. But don’t worry. Plenty of them will flock to you to pick you apart in the anti forum.
There is also a beginning period where every post you make has to be reviewed by an Admin before it will appear on the forum. This is extremely annoying, especially if several Nazis are piling on in a topic and you cannot reply instantly.
After about 50 posts, you can make an appeal to have this handicap removed. If you have behaved yourself, some Nazis will even vouch for you.
But you will always be restricted to the anti forum. Sorry, if you are wishing to wax on about the beauty of the Aryan race in the poetry section, you will just have to miss out. But you can read it, and that shit is some really funny stuff. I recommended taking a peek.
All right. Moving on.
Anyone who is not white is a mud person. However, there is a pecking order. Nazis hate some mud people more than others. Jews are at the top of the hate list, of course, although negroes are for others. Asians are disliked, but not hated anywhere near as much as negroes, Jews, and Hispanics.
Speaking of Jews, Nazis hate Jews. That goes without saying. However, many of them actually admire (are jealous of) Israel because Israel is a Jewish State. And the Nazis are all about each race getting their own racially pure states.
Which is why you will hear them refer to themselves as “White Nationalists”. The Nazis never call themselves Nazis. There are many reasons for this, but mostly having to do with the fact that Stormfront is an international forum and the use of “Nazi” is not allowed in some countries. The guy you are talking to may have a gigantic Nazi tattoo, but he will deny being a Nazi. It’s complicated.
Some will deny they are Nazis, but they will go on and on about how great a guy Hitler was, and they will deny the Holocaust. And the color scheme of the forum is right out of Hitler’s playbook. The avatars some choose are also obvious.
And then there are the puerile little things they do which they think are clever. Like “88” tattoos, for example. The letter H is the eighth letter of the alphabet, see. HH, get it? 88 = Heil Hitler.
Some also like to wear black combat boots with red laces. And listen to specific hard metal bands rife with Nazi symbolism.
Another favorite is the expression “Fourteen Words”: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White Children."
So, yeah. They’re Nazis. And they are more than happy to tell you about National
Socialism. A strong centralized government is not exclusive to the extremes of the left.
Well, some of them are smart enough to explain National Socialism. The vast majority are dumb as rocks, but there are a few clever ones. Don’t underestimate them.
But most of the topics are the same, year after year. The low scores black get on IQ tests; communism was invented by Jews; the correlation between the percentage of blacks and the crime rate; name two black countries which aren’t a total clusterfuck (hint: they used to ask for just one! ). And so forth and so on.
And of course, every media report of a non-white behaving badly is fed into their gigantic Confirmation Bias Machine.
I recommend informing yourself about the Frankfurt School’s brand of Marxism. This is where they will try to pigeonhole you if you claim to be a conservative.
The Nazi rhetoric about the Frankfurt School has leaked into the modern right wing conservative rhetoric many times in recent years. You have heard the battle against the left wing's "cultural marxism" which was born in the Frankfurt School watered down into a “culture war”. In the "culture war", you're either fer us or agin us.
If you hang around Nazis long enough, you will hear jackboots in your head day and night. But it is worth it. Because you will acquire a Nazi detector that will be very reliable. And you will be amazed at how much of their rhetoric is bleeding over into modern day right wing rhetoric. It will astonish you.
If you are a conservative (as I am), and make a case that you are right wing, the Nazis will quickly correct you. THEY are the true right wingers. YOU are a “cultural Marxist” because you believe in the equality of all races. They will find evidence to disprove any current right wing hero is right wing. Sarah Palin? Not a real right winger. Fox News? No effing way they are conservative.
See, when you are that far right, everyone else looks like a left winger.
The longer you spend there, the more they will make guesses at your ethnicity. You will be called a Jew AND a black at least ten times in a month.
They call themselves “WNs”. White Nationalists. They want a White Nation. Several, actually. North America and Europe, at the very least.
There are several flavors of WN.
One type of WN cannot wait for RAHOWA. Racial Holy War. The forum admins are very careful about allowing open talk about racial holy war. They also strictly forbid any discussion of a religious nature. But there are some Christian Identity types in this crowd. The RAHOWA types can’t wait to start shooting mud people.
Oh, the WNs loooooooove their guns. There’s a whole section just for showing them off and talking about all the weapons they claim to possess.
Another type of WN is one which believes all the white race traitors are going to wake up any day now and realize it is high time to start cleaning up America and toss out these cursed mud people. They though the election of Obama would do the trick. Since every black run city in America is a disaster, Obama would do the same to America and all us white people would finally rise up and make this country a White Nation.
These are the optimistic WNs.
The pessimistic WNs believe the white race is doomed. We’re done for. The mud people are going to wipe us out by attrition. Breeding like rabbits while we just roll over and make ourselves extinct.
The admins keep a very tight lid on violent language. They are paranoid, maybe justifiably so, they are always being watched by the government and that the government is just looking for an excuse to shut them down.
As a result, the WNs have learned to communicate hate and violence without being overt about it. But they are seething with it. You will pick that up very quickly.
No name calling is allowed. They especially monitor “antis” very closely. The debate field is extremely unlevel. You are not allowed to lose your temper or call anyone names. You must remain level-headed at all times, and this is the most valuable thing you will gain from visiting there.
If you defeat them repeatedly in debate, they will become very upset and work very hard to get you booted off the forum.
A favorite tactic of WNs is to plagiarize the crap out of another web site and post the text as their own original thoughts. They also like to change some of the words in the original text in order to make it fit into their twisted belief system.
If you do register on Stormfront, don’t use a username you use anywhere else. This is common sense, but sometimes you have to state the obvious to the oblivious.
So there you go! Enjoy your visit. It is an educational experience.
But for those who are curious about Nazis and might like to visit them, here are a few things you need to know to better understand them. This will save you some time and embarrassment. Like all societies, they have their own language and neologism.
It has been awhile since I have dealt directly with Nazis online or in real life, so some of the rules and operating procedures of the Stormfront forum may be different than my last visit.
First, if you are opposed to Nazis, then you are an “anti”. Antis are forbidden to post wherever they choose. They are relegated to one subforum. You can read the other forums, but cannot post there. But don’t worry. Plenty of them will flock to you to pick you apart in the anti forum.
There is also a beginning period where every post you make has to be reviewed by an Admin before it will appear on the forum. This is extremely annoying, especially if several Nazis are piling on in a topic and you cannot reply instantly.
After about 50 posts, you can make an appeal to have this handicap removed. If you have behaved yourself, some Nazis will even vouch for you.
But you will always be restricted to the anti forum. Sorry, if you are wishing to wax on about the beauty of the Aryan race in the poetry section, you will just have to miss out. But you can read it, and that shit is some really funny stuff. I recommended taking a peek.
All right. Moving on.
Anyone who is not white is a mud person. However, there is a pecking order. Nazis hate some mud people more than others. Jews are at the top of the hate list, of course, although negroes are for others. Asians are disliked, but not hated anywhere near as much as negroes, Jews, and Hispanics.
Speaking of Jews, Nazis hate Jews. That goes without saying. However, many of them actually admire (are jealous of) Israel because Israel is a Jewish State. And the Nazis are all about each race getting their own racially pure states.
Which is why you will hear them refer to themselves as “White Nationalists”. The Nazis never call themselves Nazis. There are many reasons for this, but mostly having to do with the fact that Stormfront is an international forum and the use of “Nazi” is not allowed in some countries. The guy you are talking to may have a gigantic Nazi tattoo, but he will deny being a Nazi. It’s complicated.
Some will deny they are Nazis, but they will go on and on about how great a guy Hitler was, and they will deny the Holocaust. And the color scheme of the forum is right out of Hitler’s playbook. The avatars some choose are also obvious.
And then there are the puerile little things they do which they think are clever. Like “88” tattoos, for example. The letter H is the eighth letter of the alphabet, see. HH, get it? 88 = Heil Hitler.
Some also like to wear black combat boots with red laces. And listen to specific hard metal bands rife with Nazi symbolism.
Another favorite is the expression “Fourteen Words”: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White Children."
So, yeah. They’re Nazis. And they are more than happy to tell you about National
Socialism. A strong centralized government is not exclusive to the extremes of the left.
Well, some of them are smart enough to explain National Socialism. The vast majority are dumb as rocks, but there are a few clever ones. Don’t underestimate them.
But most of the topics are the same, year after year. The low scores black get on IQ tests; communism was invented by Jews; the correlation between the percentage of blacks and the crime rate; name two black countries which aren’t a total clusterfuck (hint: they used to ask for just one! ). And so forth and so on.
And of course, every media report of a non-white behaving badly is fed into their gigantic Confirmation Bias Machine.
I recommend informing yourself about the Frankfurt School’s brand of Marxism. This is where they will try to pigeonhole you if you claim to be a conservative.
The Nazi rhetoric about the Frankfurt School has leaked into the modern right wing conservative rhetoric many times in recent years. You have heard the battle against the left wing's "cultural marxism" which was born in the Frankfurt School watered down into a “culture war”. In the "culture war", you're either fer us or agin us.
If you hang around Nazis long enough, you will hear jackboots in your head day and night. But it is worth it. Because you will acquire a Nazi detector that will be very reliable. And you will be amazed at how much of their rhetoric is bleeding over into modern day right wing rhetoric. It will astonish you.
If you are a conservative (as I am), and make a case that you are right wing, the Nazis will quickly correct you. THEY are the true right wingers. YOU are a “cultural Marxist” because you believe in the equality of all races. They will find evidence to disprove any current right wing hero is right wing. Sarah Palin? Not a real right winger. Fox News? No effing way they are conservative.
See, when you are that far right, everyone else looks like a left winger.
The longer you spend there, the more they will make guesses at your ethnicity. You will be called a Jew AND a black at least ten times in a month.
They call themselves “WNs”. White Nationalists. They want a White Nation. Several, actually. North America and Europe, at the very least.
There are several flavors of WN.
One type of WN cannot wait for RAHOWA. Racial Holy War. The forum admins are very careful about allowing open talk about racial holy war. They also strictly forbid any discussion of a religious nature. But there are some Christian Identity types in this crowd. The RAHOWA types can’t wait to start shooting mud people.
Oh, the WNs loooooooove their guns. There’s a whole section just for showing them off and talking about all the weapons they claim to possess.
Another type of WN is one which believes all the white race traitors are going to wake up any day now and realize it is high time to start cleaning up America and toss out these cursed mud people. They though the election of Obama would do the trick. Since every black run city in America is a disaster, Obama would do the same to America and all us white people would finally rise up and make this country a White Nation.
These are the optimistic WNs.
The pessimistic WNs believe the white race is doomed. We’re done for. The mud people are going to wipe us out by attrition. Breeding like rabbits while we just roll over and make ourselves extinct.
The admins keep a very tight lid on violent language. They are paranoid, maybe justifiably so, they are always being watched by the government and that the government is just looking for an excuse to shut them down.
As a result, the WNs have learned to communicate hate and violence without being overt about it. But they are seething with it. You will pick that up very quickly.
No name calling is allowed. They especially monitor “antis” very closely. The debate field is extremely unlevel. You are not allowed to lose your temper or call anyone names. You must remain level-headed at all times, and this is the most valuable thing you will gain from visiting there.
If you defeat them repeatedly in debate, they will become very upset and work very hard to get you booted off the forum.
A favorite tactic of WNs is to plagiarize the crap out of another web site and post the text as their own original thoughts. They also like to change some of the words in the original text in order to make it fit into their twisted belief system.
If you do register on Stormfront, don’t use a username you use anywhere else. This is common sense, but sometimes you have to state the obvious to the oblivious.
So there you go! Enjoy your visit. It is an educational experience.
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