America is not the greatest country...

[Nutz]

Lol...Euromites invented imperialism. Everyt conflict the US is involved in is a result of European imperialism, hate and war

Tell me more about iraq/afghanistan, vietnam, nicaragua, chile, cuba, the early USSR, the genocide against native americans, the rampant slave trade..

Lol...all products of European imperialism. All of it....even the dutvh slave trade

Then you're truly lacking an understanding of events during the 1900's..

Lol...apparently you are....all of the conflicts you mentioned began with Euromites and their aggression.

Alright, the united states attempting to overthrow castro, how does that tie back to europe? Helping to overthrow salvador allende?

Ok...I can give you that one. Nonethess, looking at the big picture...Cuba is insignificant outside if the Cuban missile crisis. Uou do believe the US has the right tp defend herself and avt in our best interest...right?

 

[Socialist]

Tell me more about iraq/afghanistan, vietnam, nicaragua, chile, cuba, the early USSR, the genocide against native americans, the rampant slave trade..

Lol...all products of European imperialism. All of it....even the dutvh slave trade

Then you're truly lacking an understanding of events during the 1900's..

Lol...apparently you are....all of the conflicts you mentioned began with Euromites and their aggression.

Alright, the united states attempting to overthrow castro, how does that tie back to europe? Helping to overthrow salvador allende?

Ok...I can give you that one. Nonethess, looking at the big picture...Cuba is insignificant outside if the Cuban missile crisis. Uou do believe the US has the right tp defend herself and avt in our best interest...right?

How does overthrowing democratically elected governments and trying to make sure corporations keep profiting off of sugar defending america's interests? I recommend viewing this wonderful documentary:

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Thanks to Hugo Chavez, people have to line up for days for spoiled milk and pre-owned toilet paper

 

[Socialist]

Thanks to Hugo Chavez, people have to line up for days for spoiled milk and pre-owned toilet paper

You do realize before Hugo, the majority, the poor in the "barrio's" couldn't even afford milk or toilet paper? The toilet paper problem is mostly over after the production places were nationalized, besides, before Hugo, oil money was going into the pockets of the wealthy and benefiting the wealthy, while the people in the barrio's were mostly ignored, I'm pretty sure there's a reason Venezuelans elected another "socialist"

 

[Hossfly]

Thanks to Hugo Chavez, people have to line up for days for spoiled milk and pre-owned toilet paper

Socialist sure has some flaky heroes.

 

[blackhawk]

The premise of socialism is to take away from those who work for a living a give to those who don't. Are you more entitled to my money than I am? Do I owe you free health care? Do I owe you free maternity leave? No. Self responsibility means rather than waiting in line at the food stamp office you get a fucking job and support your family.

When you overprint a fiat currency it loses value. When you overspend a fiat currency you have to print more in order to pay your debt, decreasing the value. When you become socialist because of the economic consequences of over printing and devaluing you only amp up the destruction to make the final crash worse when it finally comes, and it ALWAYS comes.

The premise of socialism is democratic control of the means of production, you may be referring to a welfare state, which I fully support. What does entitlement have to do with this? Universal healthcare benefits everyone, ask the majority of the world that has it, the mentality you hold is disgusting. People like you are the reason mothers don't have paid maternity leave, despite the fact america is one of the last countries not to. You do realize most people on food stamps do work, right? I know about inflation/deflation/etc, also, what do you know about denmark/norway/britain/canada/etc/etc.. by your logic, they're all "socialist"

And yet so many people risk life and limb to come here go figure.

Tell me more about the millions trying to immigrate to european countries, etc, etc...

Those would be who exactly? Please feel free to substantiate your own claims instead of asking others to.

Immigration to Europe - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
All sourced and backed up

If you consider Wikipedia a source personally I take any source that I could go in and edit with a bit of skepticism but to each there own.

I don't consider wikipedia a source, it's why wikipedia grabs everything from actual sources, it's like a reference page.

A page that you or I can go in and edit if we felt like it.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Thanks to Hugo Chavez, people have to line up for days for spoiled milk and pre-owned toilet paper

You do realize before Hugo, the majority, the poor in the "barrio's" couldn't even afford milk or toilet paper? The toilet paper problem is mostly over after the production places were nationalized, besides, before Hugo, oil money was going into the pockets of the wealthy and benefiting the wealthy, while the people in the barrio's were mostly ignored, I'm pretty sure there's a reason Venezuelans elected another "socialist"

And thanks to Socialism nobody can afford spoiled milk and prepared tp

 

[Socialist]

The premise of socialism is to take away from those who work for a living a give to those who don't. Are you more entitled to my money than I am? Do I owe you free health care? Do I owe you free maternity leave? No. Self responsibility means rather than waiting in line at the food stamp office you get a fucking job and support your family.

When you overprint a fiat currency it loses value. When you overspend a fiat currency you have to print more in order to pay your debt, decreasing the value. When you become socialist because of the economic consequences of over printing and devaluing you only amp up the destruction to make the final crash worse when it finally comes, and it ALWAYS comes.

The premise of socialism is democratic control of the means of production, you may be referring to a welfare state, which I fully support. What does entitlement have to do with this? Universal healthcare benefits everyone, ask the majority of the world that has it, the mentality you hold is disgusting. People like you are the reason mothers don't have paid maternity leave, despite the fact america is one of the last countries not to. You do realize most people on food stamps do work, right? I know about inflation/deflation/etc, also, what do you know about denmark/norway/britain/canada/etc/etc.. by your logic, they're all "socialist"

Tell me more about the millions trying to immigrate to european countries, etc, etc...

Those would be who exactly? Please feel free to substantiate your own claims instead of asking others to.

Immigration to Europe - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
All sourced and backed up

If you consider Wikipedia a source personally I take any source that I could go in and edit with a bit of skepticism but to each there own.

I don't consider wikipedia a source, it's why wikipedia grabs everything from actual sources, it's like a reference page.

A page that you or I can go in and edit if we felt like it.

Look at the sources yourself buddy.

 

[Socialist]

Thanks to Hugo Chavez, people have to line up for days for spoiled milk and pre-owned toilet paper

Socialist sure has some flaky heroes.

I'm pretty sure this would have happened either way, and before Hugo, many people didn't have milk at all.

 

[LibertarianPatriot]

The premise of socialism is to take away from those who work for a living a give to those who don't. Are you more entitled to my money than I am? Do I owe you free health care? Do I owe you free maternity leave? No. Self responsibility means rather than waiting in line at the food stamp office you get a fucking job and support your family.

When you overprint a fiat currency it loses value. When you overspend a fiat currency you have to print more in order to pay your debt, decreasing the value. When you become socialist because of the economic consequences of over printing and devaluing you only amp up the destruction to make the final crash worse when it finally comes, and it ALWAYS comes.

The premise of socialism is democratic control of the means of production, you may be referring to a welfare state, which I fully support. What does entitlement have to do with this? Universal healthcare benefits everyone, ask the majority of the world that has it, the mentality you hold is disgusting. People like you are the reason mothers don't have paid maternity leave, despite the fact america is one of the last countries not to. You do realize most people on food stamps do work, right? I know about inflation/deflation/etc, also, what do you know about denmark/norway/britain/canada/etc/etc.. by your logic, they're all "socialist"

And yet so many people risk life and limb to come here go figure.

Tell me more about the millions trying to immigrate to european countries, etc, etc...

Those would be who exactly? Please feel free to substantiate your own claims instead of asking others to.

Immigration to Europe - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
All sourced and backed up

If you consider Wikipedia a source personally I take any source that I could go in and edit with a bit of skepticism but to each there own.

I don't consider wikipedia a source, it's why wikipedia grabs everything from actual sources, it's like a reference page.

Socialism is a centralization of power taking away any and all personal liberties. Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin are probably the 2 best known socialist scum to come along before Obama. And a welfare state benefits nobody, especially those on the receiving end because they will become decadent and gain a sense of entitlement that is extremely self destructive leading to generational poverty. If you love socialism so much then go to N. Korea and take your dumb ass oppinions with you

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"America is not the greatest country..."

Nonsense.

Nowhere else in the world will one find a nation so dedicated to the rule of law and the acknowledgment of the right to due process and the right to individual liberty.

Problems concerning education, wages, and healthcare can be addressed and fixed – once liberty and freedom are lost, however, they can never be regained.

 

[Socialist]

The premise of socialism is to take away from those who work for a living a give to those who don't. Are you more entitled to my money than I am? Do I owe you free health care? Do I owe you free maternity leave? No. Self responsibility means rather than waiting in line at the food stamp office you get a fucking job and support your family.

When you overprint a fiat currency it loses value. When you overspend a fiat currency you have to print more in order to pay your debt, decreasing the value. When you become socialist because of the economic consequences of over printing and devaluing you only amp up the destruction to make the final crash worse when it finally comes, and it ALWAYS comes.

The premise of socialism is democratic control of the means of production, you may be referring to a welfare state, which I fully support. What does entitlement have to do with this? Universal healthcare benefits everyone, ask the majority of the world that has it, the mentality you hold is disgusting. People like you are the reason mothers don't have paid maternity leave, despite the fact america is one of the last countries not to. You do realize most people on food stamps do work, right? I know about inflation/deflation/etc, also, what do you know about denmark/norway/britain/canada/etc/etc.. by your logic, they're all "socialist"

Tell me more about the millions trying to immigrate to european countries, etc, etc...

Those would be who exactly? Please feel free to substantiate your own claims instead of asking others to.

Immigration to Europe - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
All sourced and backed up

If you consider Wikipedia a source personally I take any source that I could go in and edit with a bit of skepticism but to each there own.

I don't consider wikipedia a source, it's why wikipedia grabs everything from actual sources, it's like a reference page.

Socialism is a centralization of power taking away any and all personal liberties. Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin are probably the 2 best known socialist scum to come along before Obama. And a welfare state benefits nobody, especially those on the receiving end because they will become decadent and gain a sense of entitlement that is extremely self destructive leading to generational poverty. If you love socialism so much then go to N. Korea and take your dumb ass oppinions with you

Socialism is simply democratic control of production, and I find it embarrassing for yourself that you'd claim hitler/stalin were implementing socialism, stalin implemented state capitalism, and he didn't even claim to have achieved communism/socialism, none the less, hitler was certainly not a socialist, he was a fascist, he did not give workers control of production, and "national socialism" was used to appeal to the lower classes. Before Obama? Obama is not a socialist, I'd like to see how you determine that. You need to realize what a welfare state is, and why the citizens of welfare states are the happiest, with long life expectancy, strong labor unions.. The people aren't stuck in your narrative about "stealing" and the "generational poverty" hogwash is largely unsupported, considering poverty is higher in very "free market" oriented places then in welfare states. North korea is not socialist, the only people who call north korea socialist are usually people on the far right who have no idea what socialism is, let alone what the juche idea is.

 

[Socialist]

"America is not the greatest country..."

Nonsense.

Nowhere else in the world will one find a nation so dedicated to the rule of law and the acknowledgment of the right to due process and the right to individual liberty.

Problems concerning education, wages, and healthcare can be addressed and fixed – once liberty and freedom are lost, however, they can never be regained.

Seriously? Do you know how many people america puts in prison? The fact that the wealthy can now, literally, buy politicians and elections? The low democracy ranking the us gets? Other countries give the right to due process, fuck, almost every industrialized country does, don't feed me the individual liberty bullshit, america does not hold an exclusivity on these things, in fact, it's failing, pathetically.

 

[LibertarianPatriot]

"America is not the greatest country..."

Nonsense.

Nowhere else in the world will one find a nation so dedicated to the rule of law and the acknowledgment of the right to due process and the right to individual liberty.

Problems concerning education, wages, and healthcare can be addressed and fixed – once liberty and freedom are lost, however, they can never be regained.

Look at the Patriot/Freedom acts under bush and obama. Look at the tpp. Look at the giant push against the 2nd amendment. You freedom is at more of a threat today than ever in history and as far as due process and the rule of law, do some research,they're gone. America is in a tough place and it will be restored by returning to the principles that made us great, not your progressive socialist killing babies lunacy that has gotten us to where we're at now

 

[LibertarianPatriot]

The premise of socialism is to take away from those who work for a living a give to those who don't. Are you more entitled to my money than I am? Do I owe you free health care? Do I owe you free maternity leave? No. Self responsibility means rather than waiting in line at the food stamp office you get a fucking job and support your family.

When you overprint a fiat currency it loses value. When you overspend a fiat currency you have to print more in order to pay your debt, decreasing the value. When you become socialist because of the economic consequences of over printing and devaluing you only amp up the destruction to make the final crash worse when it finally comes, and it ALWAYS comes.

The premise of socialism is democratic control of the means of production, you may be referring to a welfare state, which I fully support. What does entitlement have to do with this? Universal healthcare benefits everyone, ask the majority of the world that has it, the mentality you hold is disgusting. People like you are the reason mothers don't have paid maternity leave, despite the fact america is one of the last countries not to. You do realize most people on food stamps do work, right? I know about inflation/deflation/etc, also, what do you know about denmark/norway/britain/canada/etc/etc.. by your logic, they're all "socialist"

Those would be who exactly? Please feel free to substantiate your own claims instead of asking others to.

Immigration to Europe - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
All sourced and backed up

If you consider Wikipedia a source personally I take any source that I could go in and edit with a bit of skepticism but to each there own.

I don't consider wikipedia a source, it's why wikipedia grabs everything from actual sources, it's like a reference page.

Socialism is a centralization of power taking away any and all personal liberties. Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin are probably the 2 best known socialist scum to come along before Obama. And a welfare state benefits nobody, especially those on the receiving end because they will become decadent and gain a sense of entitlement that is extremely self destructive leading to generational poverty. If you love socialism so much then go to N. Korea and take your dumb ass oppinions with you

Socialism is simply democratic control of production, and I find it embarrassing for yourself that you'd claim hitler/stalin were implementing socialism, stalin implemented state capitalism, and he didn't even claim to have achieved communism/socialism, none the less, hitler was certainly not a socialist, he was a fascist, he did not give workers control of production, and "national socialism" was used to appeal to the lower classes. Before Obama? Obama is not a socialist, I'd like to see how you determine that. You need to realize what a welfare state is, and why the citizens of welfare states are the happiest, with long life expectancy, strong labor unions.. The people aren't stuck in your narrative about "stealing" and the "generational poverty" hogwash is largely unsupported, considering poverty is higher in very "free market" oriented places then in welfare states. North korea is not socialist, the only people who call north korea socialist are usually people on the far right who have no idea what socialism is, let alone what the juche idea is.

You clearly don't understand things at a very deep level buddy. Like I said, give N Korea(as socialist as it gets)a try and see how you enjoy yourself

 

[charwin95]

Socialist...from your post #32.
You know of Cubans that went back to Cuba because they cannot afford health care. That's is full of crap. I know a lots of Cubans and they will never go to Cuba for healthcare.
If you do not have insurance all you have to do is go to ER and you will get treatment. That's just an example your lying already. There are immigrants that can't afford health care but they do not go back to their origin.
Cuba is one of the countries that guard their borders to prevent their citizens from leaving the country. If Castro will remove those border guards most or all Cubans will swim to Florida. That is a FACT.
If I compare Palm Spring/Key Biscayne against Cuba a very tiny country is that fair?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"America is not the greatest country..."

Nonsense.

Nowhere else in the world will one find a nation so dedicated to the rule of law and the acknowledgment of the right to due process and the right to individual liberty.

Problems concerning education, wages, and healthcare can be addressed and fixed – once liberty and freedom are lost, however, they can never be regained.

Did someone hack your account? That was beautiful

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I always hear people praising America for being "the best country in the world" and lots of other bullshit, time to look at some facts:

Healthcare:
The United states is, essentially, the only industrialized country without universal healthcare..
The US "spends" about this much on healthcare per citizen, with laughable results (It's approaching 10k now..)

Millions lack insurance, drugs are expensive as hell, people's lives are ruined if they get cancer, and don't have fancy for profit insurance.
The united states lacks in many areas regarding healthcare:

Let's look at life expectancy:
We rank 34: Global Health Observatory Data Repository
(Cuba is above us) yet, we still spend a MASSIVE amount on healthcare per citizen, with laughable results, as said above.

Education:
The united states education system is underfunded, teachers are underpaid, and a host of other problems are present... especially when it comes to the rising cost of higher education and the lack of access to cheap, affordable higher education. The united states government needs to directly support higher education like many other countries, not simply hand out loans and grants... Obama's community college idea is a great start.
College tuition in the United States - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

We are, by no measure, #1 at education results, but we are #1 in student debt..

Military:
If there's one thing the united states is #1 at, it's the military. I fail to see how this an achievement when millions lack healthcare, when the infrastructure is falling apart, when child poverty is on the rise, when veterans are homeless by the thousands, but yeah, let's look at the reality:
This is all that needs to be said.. if a nation wants to focus more on funding new weapon research projects and imperialist ventures then giving healthcare to its own citizens, there is a problem.

Corporate profits:
It's no surprise that corporate profits are at an all time high in the united states, and they are rising, I fail to see how this is a good thing when wages are stagnant, with a shrinking middle class, with millions being thrown into poverty.. Then again, the corporations love the government and the government loves the corporations..
Corporate Profits After Tax without IVA and CCAdj - FRED - St. Louis Fed

Wages:

Wages in the united states have been stagnant for decades, and compared to the rising cost of living and productivity, are not rising like they should..

Now, we come to a horrifying fact to relate to this.. affording a two bedroom rental unit..

Overworked America 12 Charts That Will Make Your Blood Boil Mother Jones - Must see.

Homelessness:
Global Homelessness Statistics - Homeless World Cup
National Coalition for Homeless Veterans
Time to piss some people off:
"Well, there is one more way in which Cuba differs from most other poor countries in the world—the tiny island nation has virtually no homeless people. There are many reasons for that accomplishment. First, although housing is not free in Cuba, the government does take steps to keep the cost of housing low. That leads to a high rate of homeownership—around 85%. By way of comparison, the Census Bureau says the rate of homeownership in the United States was 66.9% in 2010."

Paid vacation:
Surprise! America is one of a few countries that does not guarantee paid vacation to workers...

"Nearly a quarter of the American private-sector workforce, some 26 million workers, doesn’t get paid time off, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics — compared with less than one-fifth in the 1990s.The United States is the only advanced economy that doesn’t guarantee paid vacation and one of only 13 countries in the world not to do so, according to the World Policy Analysis Center at the University of California Los Angeles."
"In this regard, the United States falls in line with India, Nepal, Pakistan, Sierra Leone, and a handful of island nations that don’t require employers to offer workers paid time off. France, on the other hand, mandates 30 paid vacation days a year for all workers; Scandinavian countries offer 25. US citizens in Puerto Rico get three weeks off a year.

Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Greece, and Sweden even require employers to pay vacationing workers extra to help with expenses."

Maternity leave:
Many on the right wing consistently talk about "family values" I'd call letting a mother spend time with her child for long periods of time while not having to worry about not getting her wages a family value, not trying to restrict gay marriage or end abortion...

Prison/income inequality/well being/etc..

I have so much more to add, but I think this is enough.. Time to realize america needs to become more "progressive"

Yo, Socialist, if you love another Country more, why don`t you pack your crap up and haul ass?
Look at the POPULATION in all of those Countries?
I rest my case!!!

"GTP"

It's not easy to get citizenship, plus, I'd like to see this country improve.

Nothing personal, but we already have enough nutters like yourself, we don't need more. Stay where you are.... we're trying to undo the damage done by the idiot liberals, progressives and socialists.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Nothing new here folks, the left has never thought America is the greatest country.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

"America is not the greatest country..."

Nonsense.

Nowhere else in the world will one find a nation so dedicated to the rule of law and the acknowledgment of the right to due process and the right to individual liberty.

Problems concerning education, wages, and healthcare can be addressed and fixed – once liberty and freedom are lost, however, they can never be regained.

Did someone hack your account? That was beautiful

He must have had a bipolar moment.