Amb William Taylor, is Tramp embezzeling, its like he thinks the money

[kyzr]

"Don't worry about those blindfolds you're wearing, we'll continue to spoon feed you all of your favorite fantasies."
That's what you're doing to yourself, it's called confirmation bias. Look it up.

So you will call any evidence of trump's wrong doing nothing more than confirmation bias? That's as goofy as trump calling everything he doesn't like "fake news" That fat fool is so used to calling everything fake till he even said the emoluments clause in the constitution is a fake clause. Are you really gonna be as predictable and goofy as him?

What we're saying is that your "evidence" isn't worth anything.
First, Professor Alan Dershowitz says the Ukraine call isn't "evidence" of wrongdoing.
Ukraine Transcript Isn't Impeachable or Criminal: Kevin McCullough with Alan Dershowitz - Townhall Review | Conservative Commentary On Today's News - Omny.fm

Second, the timeline for the "evidence" disproves any "quid-pro-quo".
Ukrainian official appears to cast doubt on quid pro quo claim

So please stop with the fake news already. There is no there there.

Deshowitz is a trained lapdog for faux. He will say what they tell him to.

The other link is a month outta date and completely irrelevant in light of the last few weeks revelations.

Try again tRumpling.

1. I'll take a Harvard law professor's opinion over anyone you have. Who do you have? I never see any major Law professors putting their reputation on the line for the democrat's list of bullshit "impeachable crimes".

2. The timeline is what is valid. There was no QPQ because the Ukraine didn't know that the funding was being delayed, duh. From the article:
"An unnamed Ukrainian official said that Kiev was not made aware that the U.S. suspended security funds until a month after President Trump's call with his Ukrainian counterpart Volodymyr Zelensky, which calls into question the whistleblower's account and Democrats' arguments that there was a quid pro quo for the aid."

Your lame excuses change nothing. Dershowitz is a paid shill, and the other has been directly contradicted by all the other evidence.

You are wrong.

Get over it.

No, you get over it. I provide credible links below proving my assertions, you put up bullshit.
1. Prove Dershowitz's arguments are not valid.
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
Opinion | Hamilton Wouldn’t Impeach Trump
Trump's Ukraine transcript: Unwise words but no proof of a crime
p.s. this last opinion is by Jonathon Turley a GW Law Professor.

2. The democrats are not using a correct -protocol to start an impeachment inquiry, so the senate will just dismiss it.
Graham to introduce resolution condemning House impeachment inquiry

 

[Ringel05]

is his.
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A few days later, on Sept. 7, Taylor testified that Morrison related to him another conversation that Trump had with Sondland that gave him a “sinking feeling.” He told Taylor that Trump “did insist that President Zelensky go to a microphone and say he is opening investigations of Biden and 2016 election interference, and that President Zelensky should want to do this himself,” Taylor said, summarizing what he heard for lawmakers.

Taylor also told lawmakers that Sondland had explained that Trump is a “businessman” and that when a businessman is about to sign a check to someone he asks for what he is owed. Taylor scoffed at the notion that Ukraine “owed” anything to Trump.

U.S. envoy says he was told release of Ukraine aid was contingent on public declaration to investigate Bidens, 2016 election
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He is using our tax payers money like its his!! Its just unbelievable.

Yeah, I read his 15 page opening statement.

It's pretty damning. Added to the texts and the other testimony in any regular criminal trial it would be a slam-dunk on tRump with a side perjury for Sondham.

Obviously you have no clue how a court of law works but that's true of 99.9 percent of the people on this board.
Number one: It has to be illegal. So it has to be determined if the activity breaks any laws. It has to be determined by attorneys and the courts excluding the court of public opinion.

Number two: If the action is declared illegal a real attorney would never attempt to prosecute on such truly flimsy evidence, most of it second hand with a high probability of built in bias.

Abusing the office for personal gain is illegal.

Sworn testimony is not "flimsy evidence", nor is the call summary, nor a tRumps own actions and admissions.

The only thing that's flimsy here is your excuse making.

Oh and your claim that "Abusing the office for personal gain is illegal" must also be provable in a court of law, not the court of public opinion for it to be illegal, so far from what I've seen it's currently only a court of public opinion ruling.
Sworn evidence, if it's second hand or lacks any concrete, substantial, corroborative evidence is considered in a court of law to be flimsy.
I'm addressing how courts and law work, not whether Trump is guilty or not.

 

[JimH52]

is his.
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A few days later, on Sept. 7, Taylor testified that Morrison related to him another conversation that Trump had with Sondland that gave him a “sinking feeling.” He told Taylor that Trump “did insist that President Zelensky go to a microphone and say he is opening investigations of Biden and 2016 election interference, and that President Zelensky should want to do this himself,” Taylor said, summarizing what he heard for lawmakers.

Taylor also told lawmakers that Sondland had explained that Trump is a “businessman” and that when a businessman is about to sign a check to someone he asks for what he is owed. Taylor scoffed at the notion that Ukraine “owed” anything to Trump.

U.S. envoy says he was told release of Ukraine aid was contingent on public declaration to investigate Bidens, 2016 election
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He is using our tax payers money like its his!! Its just unbelievable.

if withholding aid to get a corrupt politician in jail its well worth it,,,

Since you are talking about tramp, yes he belongs in jail. He would be in jail if he wasn't Potus. Soon he won't be.

but if he was POTUS and a democrat you wouldnt want him in jail,,,you would want him re elected as a hero,,

Nope....what trump did benefited Putin and placed the security of Ukraine in danger......this is not a guy lying about a blow job....this is a Mafia Boss shaking down a foreign country using tax payer money to benefit his political career.....ILLEGAL....IMMORAL....IRRESPONSIBLE!

 

[progressive hunter]

is his.
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A few days later, on Sept. 7, Taylor testified that Morrison related to him another conversation that Trump had with Sondland that gave him a “sinking feeling.” He told Taylor that Trump “did insist that President Zelensky go to a microphone and say he is opening investigations of Biden and 2016 election interference, and that President Zelensky should want to do this himself,” Taylor said, summarizing what he heard for lawmakers.

Taylor also told lawmakers that Sondland had explained that Trump is a “businessman” and that when a businessman is about to sign a check to someone he asks for what he is owed. Taylor scoffed at the notion that Ukraine “owed” anything to Trump.

U.S. envoy says he was told release of Ukraine aid was contingent on public declaration to investigate Bidens, 2016 election
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He is using our tax payers money like its his!! Its just unbelievable.

if withholding aid to get a corrupt politician in jail its well worth it,,,

Since you are talking about tramp, yes he belongs in jail. He would be in jail if he wasn't Potus. Soon he won't be.

but if he was POTUS and a democrat you wouldnt want him in jail,,,you would want him re elected as a hero,,

Nope....what trump did benefited Putin and placed the security of Ukraine in danger......this is not a guy lying about a blow job....this is a Mafia Boss shaking down a foreign country using tax payer money to benefit his political career.....ILLEGAL....IMMORAL....IRRESPONSIBLE!

got a link,, cause your opinion means shit,,,

 

[Penelope]

There is no court of law and doesn't need to be , you can look at it as a grand jury going on now and the house is going to impeach him,

No law or court, Barr and his court appointed judges can't protect him.

You guys might want to read the Constitution.

 

[Penelope]

Tramp has done more to collaborate the testimony of Taylor, his summary of the phone call and his speaking on national tv is really enough, but best to get more.

They tried to cover it up as well, but didn't work.

I do wonder what else is going on.

 

[progressive hunter]

Tramp has done more to collaborate the testimony of Taylor, his summary of the phone call and his speaking on national tv is really enough, but best to get more.

sorry but your opinion doesnt mean shit,,

 

[Penelope]

Tramp has done more to collaborate the testimony of Taylor, his summary of the phone call and his speaking on national tv is really enough, but best to get more.

sorry but your opinion doesnt mean shit,,

The constitution is phony according to tramp, but not to most people, I suggest you read it.

 

[progressive hunter]

Tramp has done more to collaborate the testimony of Taylor, his summary of the phone call and his speaking on national tv is really enough, but best to get more.

sorry but your opinion doesnt mean shit,,

The constitution is phony according to tramp, I suggest you read it.

I've read it more than any dem or repube in history including you,,,,

 

[Penelope]

Tramp has done more to collaborate the testimony of Taylor, his summary of the phone call and his speaking on national tv is really enough, but best to get more.

sorry but your opinion doesnt mean shit,,

The constitution is phony according to tramp, I suggest you read it.

I've read it more than any dem or repube in history including you,,,,

Well then you should know, you have a faulty memory.

 

[progressive hunter]

Tramp has done more to collaborate the testimony of Taylor, his summary of the phone call and his speaking on national tv is really enough, but best to get more.

sorry but your opinion doesnt mean shit,,

The constitution is phony according to tramp, I suggest you read it.

I've read it more than any dem or repube in history including you,,,,

Well then you should know, you have a faulty memory.

I know it the job of POTUS to protect the country from all enemies foreign or domestic, and that running for office doesnt protect you from prosecution,,,

 

[Ringel05]

There is no court of law and doesn't need to be , you can look at it as a grand jury going on now and the house is going to impeach him,

No law or court, Barr and his court appointed judges can't protect him.

You guys might want to read the Constitution.

Welp, something about opinions and assholes that I heard a long time ago......
Equating the House with a Grand Jury is ludicrous at best, it's more akin to a kangaroo court and lynch mob (regardless of which side is doing it). Maybe you're the one who should read the Constitution......... And a healthy dose of reality wouldn't hurt either, wishful thinking will only take you so far.........

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

is his.
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A few days later, on Sept. 7, Taylor testified that Morrison related to him another conversation that Trump had with Sondland that gave him a “sinking feeling.” He told Taylor that Trump “did insist that President Zelensky go to a microphone and say he is opening investigations of Biden and 2016 election interference, and that President Zelensky should want to do this himself,” Taylor said, summarizing what he heard for lawmakers.

Taylor also told lawmakers that Sondland had explained that Trump is a “businessman” and that when a businessman is about to sign a check to someone he asks for what he is owed. Taylor scoffed at the notion that Ukraine “owed” anything to Trump.

U.S. envoy says he was told release of Ukraine aid was contingent on public declaration to investigate Bidens, 2016 election
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He is using our tax payers money like its his!! Its just unbelievable.

Sondland did not say that, so your accusation is just more libtard hearsay from a Deep State ambassador.

 

[JimH52]

Barr is part of the cover up when he refused to even look at the malfeasance by the Liar in Chief. He also needs to be removed from office....THESE PEOPLE ARE SNAKES!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

is his.
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A few days later, on Sept. 7, Taylor testified that Morrison related to him another conversation that Trump had with Sondland that gave him a “sinking feeling.” He told Taylor that Trump “did insist that President Zelensky go to a microphone and say he is opening investigations of Biden and 2016 election interference, and that President Zelensky should want to do this himself,” Taylor said, summarizing what he heard for lawmakers.

Taylor also told lawmakers that Sondland had explained that Trump is a “businessman” and that when a businessman is about to sign a check to someone he asks for what he is owed. Taylor scoffed at the notion that Ukraine “owed” anything to Trump.

U.S. envoy says he was told release of Ukraine aid was contingent on public declaration to investigate Bidens, 2016 election
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He is using our tax payers money like its his!! Its just unbelievable.

if withholding aid to get a corrupt politician in jail its well worth it,,,

Since you are talking about tramp, yes he belongs in jail. He would be in jail if he wasn't Potus. Soon he won't be.

If that were true, why hasn't the House impeached him and the Senate removed him from office?

Oh, it's because you have a HUGE nothingburger!

 

[JimH52]

is his.
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A few days later, on Sept. 7, Taylor testified that Morrison related to him another conversation that Trump had with Sondland that gave him a “sinking feeling.” He told Taylor that Trump “did insist that President Zelensky go to a microphone and say he is opening investigations of Biden and 2016 election interference, and that President Zelensky should want to do this himself,” Taylor said, summarizing what he heard for lawmakers.

Taylor also told lawmakers that Sondland had explained that Trump is a “businessman” and that when a businessman is about to sign a check to someone he asks for what he is owed. Taylor scoffed at the notion that Ukraine “owed” anything to Trump.

U.S. envoy says he was told release of Ukraine aid was contingent on public declaration to investigate Bidens, 2016 election
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He is using our tax payers money like its his!! Its just unbelievable.

Sondland did not say that, so your accusation is just more libtard hearsay from a Deep State ambassador.

Sondland lied like a rug!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

is his.
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A few days later, on Sept. 7, Taylor testified that Morrison related to him another conversation that Trump had with Sondland that gave him a “sinking feeling.” He told Taylor that Trump “did insist that President Zelensky go to a microphone and say he is opening investigations of Biden and 2016 election interference, and that President Zelensky should want to do this himself,” Taylor said, summarizing what he heard for lawmakers.

Taylor also told lawmakers that Sondland had explained that Trump is a “businessman” and that when a businessman is about to sign a check to someone he asks for what he is owed. Taylor scoffed at the notion that Ukraine “owed” anything to Trump.

U.S. envoy says he was told release of Ukraine aid was contingent on public declaration to investigate Bidens, 2016 election
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He is using our tax payers money like its his!! Its just unbelievable.

"Don't worry about those blindfolds you're wearing, we'll continue to spoon feed you all of your favorite fantasies."
That's what you're doing to yourself, it's called confirmation bias. Look it up.

So you will call any evidence of trump's wrong doing nothing more than confirmation bias? That's as goofy as trump calling everything he doesn't like "fake news" That fat fool is so used to calling everything fake till he even said the emoluments clause in the constitution is a fake clause. Are you really gonna be as predictable and goofy as him?

What we're saying is that your "evidence" isn't worth anything.
First, Professor Alan Dershowitz says the Ukraine call isn't "evidence" of wrongdoing.
Ukraine Transcript Isn't Impeachable or Criminal: Kevin McCullough with Alan Dershowitz - Townhall Review | Conservative Commentary On Today's News - Omny.fm

Second, the timeline for the "evidence" disproves any "quid-pro-quo".
Ukrainian official appears to cast doubt on quid pro quo claim

So please stop with the fake news already. There is no there there.

LMAO In case you missed in Penelope is a moron who takes every opportunity to dis Trump. She doesn't need evidence and doesn't want it. All she needs is HER ideas.

She's a fucking lefty loon idiot and proves it with each and every post.

I'm aware of his reputation, apparently your not. He is one big swamp master.

Your reputation is worse than Trump.

 

[Ringel05]

is his.
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A few days later, on Sept. 7, Taylor testified that Morrison related to him another conversation that Trump had with Sondland that gave him a “sinking feeling.” He told Taylor that Trump “did insist that President Zelensky go to a microphone and say he is opening investigations of Biden and 2016 election interference, and that President Zelensky should want to do this himself,” Taylor said, summarizing what he heard for lawmakers.

Taylor also told lawmakers that Sondland had explained that Trump is a “businessman” and that when a businessman is about to sign a check to someone he asks for what he is owed. Taylor scoffed at the notion that Ukraine “owed” anything to Trump.

U.S. envoy says he was told release of Ukraine aid was contingent on public declaration to investigate Bidens, 2016 election
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He is using our tax payers money like its his!! Its just unbelievable.

Sondland did not say that, so your accusation is just more libtard hearsay from a Deep State ambassador.

Sondland lied like a rug!

The same could be said of Taylor. It's all in who you choose to believe. Personally I choose to wait and see.........

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Tramp has done more to collaborate the testimony of Taylor, his summary of the phone call and his speaking on national tv is really enough, but best to get more.

They tried to cover it up as well, but didn't work.

I do wonder what else is going on.

"Collaborate"? The word you were looking for was "corroborate". My God, what a dumbass you are!

Nevertheless, how is that nothingburger tasting?

 

[JimH52]

is his.
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A few days later, on Sept. 7, Taylor testified that Morrison related to him another conversation that Trump had with Sondland that gave him a “sinking feeling.” He told Taylor that Trump “did insist that President Zelensky go to a microphone and say he is opening investigations of Biden and 2016 election interference, and that President Zelensky should want to do this himself,” Taylor said, summarizing what he heard for lawmakers.

Taylor also told lawmakers that Sondland had explained that Trump is a “businessman” and that when a businessman is about to sign a check to someone he asks for what he is owed. Taylor scoffed at the notion that Ukraine “owed” anything to Trump.

U.S. envoy says he was told release of Ukraine aid was contingent on public declaration to investigate Bidens, 2016 election
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He is using our tax payers money like its his!! Its just unbelievable.

if withholding aid to get a corrupt politician in jail its well worth it,,,

Since you are talking about tramp, yes he belongs in jail. He would be in jail if he wasn't Potus. Soon he won't be.

If that were true, why hasn't the House impeached him and the Senate removed him from office?

Oh, it's because you have a HUGE nothingburger!

This is the process this is going on right now. The House is gathering evidence, and the GOP is in the room when they are doing it. Once the evidence is gathered, it will be displayed publicly and articles of Impeachment will be voted on. I expect trump to be Impeached in the House. Right now it appears to be irrefutable evidence that trump made an "announced" investigation of Biden the criteria for getting Ukrainian military aid. That is extortion and that is ILLEGAL.

Add that to all the other felonies he has been named party to, and we have a stone cold criminal in the White House. Many of us have know this for years. Soon, Independent voters will also know it and he will be sunk.

Nixon had Ford pardon him. If trump were smart, which he isn't, he would resign as soon as possible and get Pence to pardon him, before it is proven that Pence also we involved in the massive cover up....