Alt-Right Defined

While I disagree with him and find that the idea that ONLY right wingers detest Wikipedia (I don't think most college professors are right wingers), I still encourage you to check the actual sources for their validity.

Wikipedia is a good "base" of information. The definition of the alt-right sounds very accurate.
Hmmm...well I disagree, I think the sources given are a little dodgy. Personally I'd define alt-right as being similar to socialism in the way that it fits in to the left-right spectrum in the sense that socialism is liberal and democratic it has communist elements and alt-rightism is conservative and democratic (referring to form of government, not party) it contains fascist elements.

Then elaborate on what part of wiki's definition that you disagree with.
Particularly with the idea that it is inherently anti-Semitic and white supremacist. And the reason I say this is because like any political ideology it can be held by anyone. Therefore, a person in Israel for example could adopt alt-right tenets of nativism, nationalism, protectionism, and cultural pride and be an alt-righter just as a Haitian or a Polynesian could be. I think it would be foolish to attempt to tie a political ideology to being for or against one race unless that ideology explicitly states so. I mean consider that many say that Marxist ideologies are inherently anti-white. I don't know about you, but I personally and strongly believe that the above claim is nonsense.

Feel free to show us your prescient threads and posts on Alt Right prior to the release of Hillarys Talking Points on 8/25
You're looking for proof that the term Alt-Right existed before Hillary's speech?

Are you THAT eager for another ass-kicking?

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  1. The Alt Right is of the political right in both the American and the European sense of the term. Socialists are not Alt Right. Progressives are not Alt Right. Liberals are not Alt Right. Communists, Marxists, Marxians, cultural Marxists, and neocons are not Alt Right.
  2. The Alt Right is an ALTERNATIVE to the mainstream conservative movement in the USA that is nominally encapsulated by Russel Kirk's 10 Conservative Principles, but in reality has devolved towards progressivism. It is also an alternative to libertarianism.
  3. The Alt Right is not a defensive attitude and rejects the concept of noble and principled defeat. It is a forward-thinking philosophy of offense, in every sense of that term. The Alt Right believes in victory through persistence and remaining in harmony with science, reality, cultural tradition, and the lessons of history.
  4. The Alt Right believes Western civilization is the pinnacle of human achievement and supports its three foundational pillars: Christianity, the European nations, and the Rule of Law.
  5. The Alt Right is openly and avowedly nationalist. It supports all nationalisms and the right of all nations to exist, homogeneous and unadulterated by foreign invasion and immigration.
  6. The Alt Right is anti-globalist. It opposes all groups who work for globalist ideals or globalist objectives.
  7. The Alt Right is anti-equalitarian. It rejects the idea of equality for the same reason it rejects the ideas of unicorns and leprechauns, noting that human equality does not exist in any observable scientific, legal, material, intellectual, sexual, or spiritual form.
  8. The Alt Right is scientodific. It presumptively accepts the current conclusions of the scientific method (scientody), while understanding a) these conclusions are liable to future revision, b) that scientistry is susceptible to corruption, and c) that the so-called scientific consensus is not based on scientody, but democracy, and is therefore intrinsically unscientific.
  9. The Alt Right believes identity > culture > politics.
  10. The Alt Right is opposed to the rule or domination of any native ethnic group by another, particularly in the sovereign homelands of the dominated peoples. The Alt Right is opposed to any non-native ethnic group obtaining excessive influence in any society through nepotism, tribalism, or any other means.
  11. The Alt Right understands that diversity + proximity = war.
  12. The Alt Right doesn't care what you think of it.
  13. The Alt Right rejects international free trade and the free movement of peoples that free trade requires. The benefits of intranational free trade is not evidence for the benefits of international free trade.
  14. The Alt Right believes we must secure the existence of white people and a future for white children.
  15. The Alt Right does not believe in the general supremacy of any race, nation, people, or sub-species. Every race, nation, people, and human sub-species has its own unique strengths and weaknesses, and possesses the sovereign right to dwell unmolested in the native culture it prefers.
  16. The Alt Right is a philosophy that values peace among the various nations of the world and opposes wars to impose the values of one nation upon another as well as efforts to exterminate individual nations through war, genocide, immigration, or genetic assimilation.

Vox Popoli: What the Alt Right is

OK - you just made all that stuff up. Very funny.
No, I posted the link, retard.
 
Wikipedia is a good "base" of information. The definition of the alt-right sounds very accurate.
Hmmm...well I disagree, I think the sources given are a little dodgy. Personally I'd define alt-right as being similar to socialism in the way that it fits in to the left-right spectrum in the sense that socialism is liberal and democratic it has communist elements and alt-rightism is conservative and democratic (referring to form of government, not party) it contains fascist elements.

Then elaborate on what part of wiki's definition that you disagree with.
Particularly with the idea that it is inherently anti-Semitic and white supremacist. And the reason I say this is because like any political ideology it can be held by anyone. Therefore, a person in Israel for example could adopt alt-right tenets of nativism, nationalism, protectionism, and cultural pride and be an alt-righter just as a Haitian or a Polynesian could be. I think it would be foolish to attempt to tie a political ideology to being for or against one race unless that ideology explicitly states so. I mean consider that many say that Marxist ideologies are inherently anti-white. I don't know about you, but I personally and strongly believe that the above claim is nonsense.

Feel free to show us your prescient threads and posts on Alt Right prior to the release of Hillarys Talking Points on 8/25
You're looking for proof that the term Alt-Right existed before Hillary's speech?

Are you THAT eager for another ass-kicking?

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Show us all the times you said it prior to Hillarys directive
 
Hmmm...well I disagree, I think the sources given are a little dodgy. Personally I'd define alt-right as being similar to socialism in the way that it fits in to the left-right spectrum in the sense that socialism is liberal and democratic it has communist elements and alt-rightism is conservative and democratic (referring to form of government, not party) it contains fascist elements.

Then elaborate on what part of wiki's definition that you disagree with.
Particularly with the idea that it is inherently anti-Semitic and white supremacist. And the reason I say this is because like any political ideology it can be held by anyone. Therefore, a person in Israel for example could adopt alt-right tenets of nativism, nationalism, protectionism, and cultural pride and be an alt-righter just as a Haitian or a Polynesian could be. I think it would be foolish to attempt to tie a political ideology to being for or against one race unless that ideology explicitly states so. I mean consider that many say that Marxist ideologies are inherently anti-white. I don't know about you, but I personally and strongly believe that the above claim is nonsense.

Feel free to show us your prescient threads and posts on Alt Right prior to the release of Hillarys Talking Points on 8/25
You're looking for proof that the term Alt-Right existed before Hillary's speech?

Are you THAT eager for another ass-kicking?

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Show us all the times you said it prior to Hillarys directive
Why would I say it? They are a minor faction of the extreme Right, with no power. Breitbart? Only retards read that shit. They have no representation in Congress, and no voice in the mainstream press.

They are only in the news because accused rapist Donald Trump has elevated one of their leaders to campaign CEO.

I don't get your connection between whether I've posted about them before and whether they exist as a group. Maybe you can explain that one?
 
Then elaborate on what part of wiki's definition that you disagree with.
Particularly with the idea that it is inherently anti-Semitic and white supremacist. And the reason I say this is because like any political ideology it can be held by anyone. Therefore, a person in Israel for example could adopt alt-right tenets of nativism, nationalism, protectionism, and cultural pride and be an alt-righter just as a Haitian or a Polynesian could be. I think it would be foolish to attempt to tie a political ideology to being for or against one race unless that ideology explicitly states so. I mean consider that many say that Marxist ideologies are inherently anti-white. I don't know about you, but I personally and strongly believe that the above claim is nonsense.

Feel free to show us your prescient threads and posts on Alt Right prior to the release of Hillarys Talking Points on 8/25
You're looking for proof that the term Alt-Right existed before Hillary's speech?

Are you THAT eager for another ass-kicking?

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Show us all the times you said it prior to Hillarys directive
Why would I say it? They are a minor faction of the extreme Right, with no power. Breitbart? Only retards read that shit. They have no representation in Congress, and no voice in the mainstream press.

They are only in the news because accused rapist Donald Trump has elevated one of their leaders to campaign CEO.

I don't get your connection between whether I've posted about them before and whether they exist as a group. Maybe you can explain that one?

So on 8/25 Hillary said, "Alt Right" and you immediately said, "Dats Right "

And that was the first time, in all your years at USMB that you used that phrase, correct?
 
Particularly with the idea that it is inherently anti-Semitic and white supremacist. And the reason I say this is because like any political ideology it can be held by anyone. Therefore, a person in Israel for example could adopt alt-right tenets of nativism, nationalism, protectionism, and cultural pride and be an alt-righter just as a Haitian or a Polynesian could be. I think it would be foolish to attempt to tie a political ideology to being for or against one race unless that ideology explicitly states so. I mean consider that many say that Marxist ideologies are inherently anti-white. I don't know about you, but I personally and strongly believe that the above claim is nonsense.

Feel free to show us your prescient threads and posts on Alt Right prior to the release of Hillarys Talking Points on 8/25
You're looking for proof that the term Alt-Right existed before Hillary's speech?

Are you THAT eager for another ass-kicking?

qQVgqH1.gif
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Show us all the times you said it prior to Hillarys directive
Why would I say it? They are a minor faction of the extreme Right, with no power. Breitbart? Only retards read that shit. They have no representation in Congress, and no voice in the mainstream press.

They are only in the news because accused rapist Donald Trump has elevated one of their leaders to campaign CEO.

I don't get your connection between whether I've posted about them before and whether they exist as a group. Maybe you can explain that one?

So on 8/25 Hillary said, "Alt Right" and you immediately said, "Dats Right "

And that was the first time, in all your years at USMB that you used that phrase, correct?
I've used 'White Supremacists' and 'Neo-Nazi' plenty of times on this site. That's all these people are - it's just re-branding. Like Trump!

Would you feel better if we all just went back to calling them Neo-Nazis?
 
Feel free to show us your prescient threads and posts on Alt Right prior to the release of Hillarys Talking Points on 8/25
You're looking for proof that the term Alt-Right existed before Hillary's speech?

Are you THAT eager for another ass-kicking?

qQVgqH1.gif
qQVgqH1.gif
qQVgqH1.gif

Show us all the times you said it prior to Hillarys directive
Why would I say it? They are a minor faction of the extreme Right, with no power. Breitbart? Only retards read that shit. They have no representation in Congress, and no voice in the mainstream press.

They are only in the news because accused rapist Donald Trump has elevated one of their leaders to campaign CEO.

I don't get your connection between whether I've posted about them before and whether they exist as a group. Maybe you can explain that one?

So on 8/25 Hillary said, "Alt Right" and you immediately said, "Dats Right "

And that was the first time, in all your years at USMB that you used that phrase, correct?
I've used 'White Supremacists' and 'Neo-Nazi' plenty of times on this site. That's all these people are - it's just re-branding. Like Trump!

Would you feel better if we all just went back to calling them Neo-Nazis?
What do you call these guys then?

AltLeft.com
 
For those who want to deny the existence of the Alt Right, Breitbart itself was kind enough to describe it in detail, back in March:

An Establishment Conservative's Guide To The Alt-Right

From the piece: For decades, the concerns of those who cherish western culture have been openly ridiculed and dismissed as racist. The alt-right is the inevitable result. No matter how silly, irrational, tribal or even hateful the Establishment may think the alt-right’s concerns are, they can’t be ignored, because they aren’t going anywhere. As Haidt reminds us, their politics is a reflection of their natural inclinations.

In other words, the Left can’t language-police and name-call them away, which have for the last twenty years been the only progressive responses to dissent, and the Right can’t snobbishly dissociate itself from them and hope they go away either.


Some people also deny the existence of the Regressive Left. Partisans gonna partisan!

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The regressive/alt left is the current Democrat party and they have had control of the party for an entire generation now.
Since you didn't reference my post in any way whatsoever, I'll assume you agree.
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The Alt Right is simply hardcore nationalist populist conservative media and those who follow them. I still don't know why this is suddenly a thing. It didn't just spring up this week because Hillary mentioned them. She didn't make up the freaking term..
The Right-Wing retards on this forum think you're a liar - there is no Alt-Right. It's interesting that the Left doesn't have a moron faction that denies reality.
Oh, there are lefties here who deny the very existence of Political Correctness.

The two ends of the spectrum can be very similar in their behaviors.
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This is a Zone2 area. Keep your insults and trolling out of here, TIA...

Those aren't insults, just stating facts.
How does that post contribute to the topic?
It is trolling and hurling insults. Why? Could it be that you lack anything intelligent to add to the conversation?

You were voted hall monitor of the year, weren't you?
It has everything to do with intelligence.
You need to know what place you go to take a crap. We use restrooms. You use your living room. That's the difference.

Horseshit. I've seen nothing but conservatives hurling trollish insult after insult in "zone 2." The mods here don't enforce it. If they do, they cherry pick.
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Fucking crybaby noob.. Alt-Left whiner^^^ lol
 
  1. The Alt Right is of the political right in both the American and the European sense of the term. Socialists are not Alt Right. Progressives are not Alt Right. Liberals are not Alt Right. Communists, Marxists, Marxians, cultural Marxists, and neocons are not Alt Right.
  2. The Alt Right is an ALTERNATIVE to the mainstream conservative movement in the USA that is nominally encapsulated by Russel Kirk's 10 Conservative Principles, but in reality has devolved towards progressivism. It is also an alternative to libertarianism.
  3. The Alt Right is not a defensive attitude and rejects the concept of noble and principled defeat. It is a forward-thinking philosophy of offense, in every sense of that term. The Alt Right believes in victory through persistence and remaining in harmony with science, reality, cultural tradition, and the lessons of history.
  4. The Alt Right believes Western civilization is the pinnacle of human achievement and supports its three foundational pillars: Christianity, the European nations, and the Rule of Law.
  5. The Alt Right is openly and avowedly nationalist. It supports all nationalisms and the right of all nations to exist, homogeneous and unadulterated by foreign invasion and immigration.
  6. The Alt Right is anti-globalist. It opposes all groups who work for globalist ideals or globalist objectives.
  7. The Alt Right is anti-equalitarian. It rejects the idea of equality for the same reason it rejects the ideas of unicorns and leprechauns, noting that human equality does not exist in any observable scientific, legal, material, intellectual, sexual, or spiritual form.
  8. The Alt Right is scientodific. It presumptively accepts the current conclusions of the scientific method (scientody), while understanding a) these conclusions are liable to future revision, b) that scientistry is susceptible to corruption, and c) that the so-called scientific consensus is not based on scientody, but democracy, and is therefore intrinsically unscientific.
  9. The Alt Right believes identity > culture > politics.
  10. The Alt Right is opposed to the rule or domination of any native ethnic group by another, particularly in the sovereign homelands of the dominated peoples. The Alt Right is opposed to any non-native ethnic group obtaining excessive influence in any society through nepotism, tribalism, or any other means.
  11. The Alt Right understands that diversity + proximity = war.
  12. The Alt Right doesn't care what you think of it.
  13. The Alt Right rejects international free trade and the free movement of peoples that free trade requires. The benefits of intranational free trade is not evidence for the benefits of international free trade.
  14. The Alt Right believes we must secure the existence of white people and a future for white children.
  15. The Alt Right does not believe in the general supremacy of any race, nation, people, or sub-species. Every race, nation, people, and human sub-species has its own unique strengths and weaknesses, and possesses the sovereign right to dwell unmolested in the native culture it prefers.
  16. The Alt Right is a philosophy that values peace among the various nations of the world and opposes wars to impose the values of one nation upon another as well as efforts to exterminate individual nations through war, genocide, immigration, or genetic assimilation.

Vox Popoli: What the Alt Right is
There is no "alt-right" nice try.
Yeah, I prefer their old name: Neo-Nazis.
I prefer prosecution for crimes....something that Clinton's have avoided for a long time.
 
The Alt Right is simply hardcore nationalist populist conservative media and those who follow them. I still don't know why this is suddenly a thing. It didn't just spring up this week because Hillary mentioned them. She didn't make up the freaking term..
The Right-Wing retards on this forum think you're a liar - there is no Alt-Right. It's interesting that the Left doesn't have a moron faction that denies reality.
Oh, there are lefties here who deny the very existence of Political Correctness.

The two ends of the spectrum can be very similar in their behaviors.
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Maybe because no one can actually cite an example.
 
The Alt Right is simply hardcore nationalist populist conservative media and those who follow them. I still don't know why this is suddenly a thing. It didn't just spring up this week because Hillary mentioned them. She didn't make up the freaking term..
The Right-Wing retards on this forum think you're a liar - there is no Alt-Right. It's interesting that the Left doesn't have a moron faction that denies reality.
Oh, there are lefties here who deny the very existence of Political Correctness.

The two ends of the spectrum can be very similar in their behaviors.
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Maybe because no one can actually cite an example.
I do it all time. Here are a few dozen examples and specifics, provided by honest liberals.

Now you know!
 
What does the alt-right need to complete their agenda? A strongman, charismatic leader and armbands with a snappy graphic logo.

It's Facism's retarded cousin wrapped up in an, unfortunately, American brand. If we know what's good for us, we should smother this movement in its cradle
That’s the responsibility of republicans of good faith and good conscience – who unfortunately are sorely lacking.
 
The Alt Right is simply hardcore nationalist populist conservative media and those who follow them. I still don't know why this is suddenly a thing. It didn't just spring up this week because Hillary mentioned them. She didn't make up the freaking term..
The Right-Wing retards on this forum think you're a liar - there is no Alt-Right. It's interesting that the Left doesn't have a moron faction that denies reality.
Oh, there are lefties here who deny the very existence of Political Correctness.

The two ends of the spectrum can be very similar in their behaviors.
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Maybe because no one can actually cite an example.
I do it all time. Here are a few dozen examples and specifics, provided by honest liberals.

Now you know!
I don't understand. These are societal, Mac. This isn't coming from government. So how will a POTUS change what they don't have any control over.

I honestly thought you were going to give me examples of the government imposing political correctness on America.
 
The Alt Right is simply hardcore nationalist populist conservative media and those who follow them. I still don't know why this is suddenly a thing. It didn't just spring up this week because Hillary mentioned them. She didn't make up the freaking term..
The Right-Wing retards on this forum think you're a liar - there is no Alt-Right. It's interesting that the Left doesn't have a moron faction that denies reality.
Oh, there are lefties here who deny the very existence of Political Correctness.

The two ends of the spectrum can be very similar in their behaviors.
.
Maybe because no one can actually cite an example.
I do it all time. Here are a few dozen examples and specifics, provided by honest liberals.

Now you know!
I don't understand. These are societal, Mac. This isn't coming from government. So how will a POTUS change what they don't have any control over.

I honestly thought you were going to give me examples of the government imposing political correctness on America.
You'd have to ask someone who has claimed that the government is imposing PC on America.

I've said all along this is a cultural issue, which is more concerning.

Glad I could provide that long list of honest liberals for you, though.
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The Right-Wing retards on this forum think you're a liar - there is no Alt-Right. It's interesting that the Left doesn't have a moron faction that denies reality.
Oh, there are lefties here who deny the very existence of Political Correctness.

The two ends of the spectrum can be very similar in their behaviors.
.
Maybe because no one can actually cite an example.
I do it all time. Here are a few dozen examples and specifics, provided by honest liberals.

Now you know!
I don't understand. These are societal, Mac. This isn't coming from government. So how will a POTUS change what they don't have any control over.

I honestly thought you were going to give me examples of the government imposing political correctness on America.
You'd have to ask someone who has claimed that the government is imposing PC on America.

I've said all along this is a cultural issue, which is more concerning.

Glad I could provide that long list of honest liberals for you, though.
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Then you admit that this is not an issue for a POTUS campaign. It's just a misdirection and deflection.

Thank you.
 
Oh, there are lefties here who deny the very existence of Political Correctness.

The two ends of the spectrum can be very similar in their behaviors.
.
Maybe because no one can actually cite an example.
I do it all time. Here are a few dozen examples and specifics, provided by honest liberals.

Now you know!
I don't understand. These are societal, Mac. This isn't coming from government. So how will a POTUS change what they don't have any control over.

I honestly thought you were going to give me examples of the government imposing political correctness on America.
You'd have to ask someone who has claimed that the government is imposing PC on America.

I've said all along this is a cultural issue, which is more concerning.

Glad I could provide that long list of honest liberals for you, though.
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Then you admit that this is not an issue for a POTUS campaign. It's just a misdirection and deflection.

Thank you.
Nothing like an intellectually dishonest straw man to get the day going! Well done!

Thank YOU!
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Maybe because no one can actually cite an example.
I do it all time. Here are a few dozen examples and specifics, provided by honest liberals.

Now you know!
I don't understand. These are societal, Mac. This isn't coming from government. So how will a POTUS change what they don't have any control over.

I honestly thought you were going to give me examples of the government imposing political correctness on America.
You'd have to ask someone who has claimed that the government is imposing PC on America.

I've said all along this is a cultural issue, which is more concerning.

Glad I could provide that long list of honest liberals for you, though.
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Then you admit that this is not an issue for a POTUS campaign. It's just a misdirection and deflection.

Thank you.
Nothing like an intellectually dishonest straw man to get the day going! Well done!

Thank YOU!
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What's dishonest? You just admitted that government is not imposing political correctness.
 

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