All The News Anti-Israel Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss

[Billo_Really]

Not my fault you have a problem with Reading Comprehension.
1) Deliberately blocking Israel’s Right to International Waters
2) The U.N. deliberately leaving the area
Actions speak louder then words? You have them

Israel doesn't have rights.

 

[Billo_Really]

Somebody stated you posted a link that indicated Israel wanted to take over Arab Territory . I thought that was actually hilarious

What do you think the Mandate was all about? Moving the Rams back to Los Angeles?

 

[Billo_Really]

Another lie

I thought you were leaving?

 

[rylah]

RE: All The News Anti-Israel Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Exactly what is: "Israel's settler colonial project"

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And for heaven's sake, don't bring up those old newspaper cuttings and essays by the original members of the World Zionist Organization. Those are well over a century ago and have no connection at all to the post-1967 Six Day War outcomes.

All Israeli settlers are necessary, integral, and active members of Israel's settler-colonial project.

Now I don't believe that settler colonialism, per se, is illegal. However, virtually every action required to achieve such a project is illegal.

Can you name anything about Israel that is actually legal?

I await your response.

(COMMENT)

Everything about the completion of the "Step Preparatory to Independent" and the subsequent creation of the Jewish State of Israel was entirely legal. It was done with the explicit approval of the UN and tacit approval of the Security Council. The Arab League, violating Article 2(4) ignited the conflict that still rages today in a slightly different form.

As you well know, the West Bank into three administrative divisions. We generally say or describe these areas as:

• Area A (full civil and security control by the Palestinian Authority)
• Area B (Palestinian civil control and joint Israeli-Palestinian security control)
• Area C (full Israeli civil and security control)​

The settlements are all in Area C (full Israeli civil and security control). By agreement with the Arab Palestinian Leadership (AKA: The Palestinian Authority) and under the guidance Area "C" full Israeli civil and security control, any settlements established by Israel is "legal."

IF: the Arab Palestinian Leadership (AKA: The Palestinian Authority) had a:

• The political problem with the settlements,
• Wish to dispute the authority of the settlements,
• Want to challenge the competency of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), the sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people in any Palestinian territory that is liberated,

THEN: The complainant must use either of the recognized platforms.

• Oslo II Accord - Declaration of Principles On Interim Self-Government Arrangements (September 13, 1993)

※ Artilce V(3) (TRANSITIONAL PERIOD AND PERMANENT STATUS NEGOTIATIONS)

It is understood that these negotiations shall cover remaining issues, including: Jerusalem, refugees, settlements, security arrangements, borders, relations and cooperation with other neighbors, and other issues of common interest.

※ Article XV (RESOLUTION OF DISPUTES)

Disputes arising out of the application or interpretation of this Declaration of Principles. or any subsequent agreements pertaining to the interim period, shall be resolved by negotiations through the Joint Liaison Committee to be established pursuant to Article X above.​

• These methods are 100% consistent with the existing and internationally accept practice:

※ Every State has the duty to refrain from the threat or use of force to violate the existing international boundaries of another State or as a means of solving international disputes, including territorial disputes and problems concerning frontiers of States.

※ All States shall pursue in good faith negotiations for the early conclusion of a universal treaty on general and complete disarmament under effective international control and strive to adopt appropriate measures to reduce international tensions and strengthen confidence among States.

States shall accordingly seek early and just settlement of their international disputes by negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, resort to regional agencies or arrangements or other peaceful means of their choice. In seeking such a settlement the parties shall agree upon such peaceful means as may be appropriate to the circumstances and nature of the dispute.

(ARAB PALESTINIAN OBSTRUCTION TO PEACE)

The fact that the Arab Palestinian Leadership has not fulfilled in good faith of the obligations assumed by States, in accordance with the Charter. Neither policy nor violence should be a driver towards peace. The default political position is "peace." Peace should be the natural static condition for any modern state to gravitate towards. In the case of the Arab Palestinians, → the default political stance is something other than peace.

Most Respectfully,
R

And for heaven's sake, don't bring up those old newspaper cuttings and essays by the original members of the World Zionist Organization.

Only Zionist shills will argue with source documents.

You don't understand the argument.
In which document does it mention that Palestine is an Arab state?

None of them."Arab" is irrelevant.

Then the idea of an Arab state in Palestine is irrelevant.
The Jewish nation was specifically mentioned as rightful sovereign.

 

[USAF 2023]

Another lie

I thought you were leaving?

Who said I was leaving you moron? The Palestinians broke Oslo with the second intifada. Still no comment about Egypt blocking International Waters or the U. N. “ peacekeepers “ leaving Israel doesn’t have “ any rights?” Neither do the Palestinians

 

[USAF 2023]

Egypt initiated War by deliberately blocking Israel’s Right to International Waters. Tell us please why this was done and why the U.N. peacekeepers deliberately left

No. You fucking comment on what I said!

Still can’t tell me why Egypt’s actions were not considered to be justification for Israel’s actions, why they were not condemned and why the U. N. Left. There will be no response

 

[RoccoR]

RE: All The News Anti-Israel Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

There was no established right at stake.

It is understood that these negotiations shall cover remaining issues, including: Jerusalem, refugees, settlements, security arrangements, borders, relations and cooperation with other neighbors, and other issues of common interest.

Rights are non negotiable.

(COMMENT)

We were speaking in the context under the agreement that the Arab Palestinians agreed that Israel had Area C (full Israeli civil and security control). And under that agreed upon control, they colored within the lines.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[RoccoR]

RE: All The News Anti-Israel Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

This question is like the juvenile delinquent that that complains, after he strikes someone, and get hit hard in return.

Neither policy nor violence should be a driver towards peace. The default political position is "peace." Peace should be the natural static condition for any modern state to gravitate towards.

Then what should the Palestinians do about the constant violence by Israel?

(COMMENT)

What you call violence is actually the implementation of Article 43 (Hague Regulation; power to restore, and ensure, as far as possible, public order and safety) and the application of Article 68 (GCIV; rendering penalties to those that intended to do harm the Occupying Power).

Sometimes it is necessary to remember that Arab Palestinians are generally NOT VICTIMS but thay are perpetrators of behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something the innocent.

This is very applicable in that it is the duty of the Arab Palestinian to refrain from criminal acts directed against the State of Israel that are intended and calculated to create a state of terror in the minds of the Israels to achieve their political ends.

It is both legally and morally wrong (as an example) to use of explosives and other lethal devices in, into, or against various defined public places with intent to kill or cause serious bodily injury, or with intent to cause extensive destruction of the public place. That would include rockets, incendiary kites, suiicide bombers, and those Arab Palestinians that plant bombs.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[RoccoR]

RE: All The News Anti-Israel Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

I think you are mistaken... The "Steps Preparatory to Independence" are valid IF and only IF the premises are all true, There is nothing UNTRUE in the "Step Preparatory to Independent."

Everything about the completion of the "Step Preparatory to Independent" and the subsequent creation of the Jewish State of Israel was entirely legal.

Only if Resolution 181 was valid. It was not.

(COMMENT)

Who are you to declare General Assembly Resolution A/RES/181(II) 29 November 1947 as invalid, unsound or improper in any fashion? Not only is it mentioned in the Palestinian Declaration of Independence A/43/827 S/20278 18 November 1988, but it is also mentioned General Assembly Resolution A/RES/67/19 Status of Palestine in the United Nations which decided to Palestine non-member observer State status in the
United Nations, without prejudice to the acquired rights, privileges and role of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO). And the PLO has said that:

Historic Palestine is a small country in size. Since the mid-twentieth century, it has been gradually wiped off the map. This began on 29 November 1947, when the United Nations General Assembly adopted an unprecedented and neverrepeated resolution (Resolution 181 (II)) to partition Palestine into two states; Palestine and Israel. To date, Palestinians continue to be denied their basic right to self-determination and the establishment of their own State. In fact, the 22% of historic Palestine the world agrees must be the territory of the State of Palestine is shrinking by the day.

It is what it is... It was, by many accounts, adopted. And the PLO, while they might not agree with it, don't dispute its existance. AND the PLO is the sole legitimate representative of the Palestinian people in any Palestinian territory that is liberated (which I guess is Area "A"); so says the Seventh Arab League Summit Conference. And the status of the PLO has not really changed.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[RoccoR]

RE: All The News Anti-Israel Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

You bring this up periodically. Because you cannot tell the difference between the boundaries established by the Allied Powers, to which the Mandate applied, and the international boundaries established by treaty..

Every State has the duty to refrain from the threat or use of force to violate the existing international boundaries of another State or as a means of solving international disputes, including territorial disputes and problems concerning frontiers of States.

What about Israel's violations against Palestine's international boundaries?

(COMMENT)

There is nothing I can do for you. You believe what you want to believe just to keep your vision alive. But that does not make it true.

IF the Arab Palestinian believe that there is a boundary dispute and facts to be made, THEN they need to activate the procedures under the Rule of Law (RoL).

Every State has the duty to refrain from the threat or use of force to violate the existing international boundaries of another State or as a means of solving international disputes, including territorial disputes and problems concerning frontiers of States.

It seems that the Arab Palestinians are satisfied, and have been satisfied, with the boundary situation. They are not going to use the RoL to meet their political objectives. As they have said: "Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine. Thus it is the overall strategy, not merely a tactical phase." Or put another way: "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors." There is no intent on the part of the Palestinians to use the Rule of Law.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[RoccoR]

RE: All The News Anti-Israel Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

You are confusing political platforms and positions with official state doctrine.

And for heaven's sake, don't bring up those old newspaper cuttings and essays by the original members of the World Zionist Organization.

Only Zionist shills will argue with source documents.

(COMMENT)

Source documents and political stances of the various political parties change over time. There is nothing static in politics, which may actually take a view differently.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Shusha]

What about Israel's violations against Palestine's international boundaries?

Seriously? You can't even maintain the integrity of your own arguments. According to your own arguments, Israel exists within "Palestine's" boundaries. By definition (yours), Israel can not violate Palestine's international boundaries.

The conflict is one of two competing peoples to self-determination within the same territory. The solution, evidenced everywhere in the world, is to divide the territory into two separate territories of self-determination. Why are the Arab Palestinians the only people on the planet to whom those standards do not apply?

 

[RoccoR]

RE: All The News Anti-Israel Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
※→ Billo_Really, et al,

NO! You are absolutely - 100% wrong.

Article 51 of the UN Charter is more specific by stating there is only 2 legal ways a country can attack another country and Israel didn't satisfy either one.

(COMMENT)

Article 51 outlines an exception (self-defense). It does not establish the legal criteria for war.

On the other hand, Article to recognizes two other types of conflicts: 1) taking "preventive" action - or - 2) pursuing "enforcement" action.

The use of force is not limited to that mentioned. There are the 19 universal legal instruments and additional amendments dealing with terrorism. Each has resulted in enforcement measures.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Shusha]

That's another bullshit lie. Every time they comply with Israeli demands, you fuckers move the goal posts.

The goalpost is to stop using violence against the citizens of Israel. But they can't seem to manage that.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: All The News Anti-Israel Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
※→ Billo_Really, et al,

You might give a thought to the question: When did the Hostile Arab Palestinians not target innocent civilians? They still target civilians using cars against pedestrians, or surprise knifings of shoppers.

The Palestinians could have had their “state” a long time ago

That's another bullshit lie. Every time they comply with Israeli demands, you fuckers move the goal posts.

(COMMENT)

The Hague Regulations and the Geneva Convention were around for a long time before the conflict. You cannot claim today that the Customary and International Humanitarian Laws (IHL) have been moving the goal posts.

It is just that the Arab Palestinians think they are a special case and exempt from the Customary and IHL because they call themselves freedom fighters; rather than the sociopaths that they are.

Anyone that argues they have the right to intentionally target unarmed civilians as a policy is simply missing a wrung in the evolutional chain of humanity.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

What about Israel's violations against Palestine's international boundaries?

Seriously? You can't even maintain the integrity of your own arguments. According to your own arguments, Israel exists within "Palestine's" boundaries. By definition (yours), Israel can not violate Palestine's international boundaries.

The conflict is one of two competing peoples to self-determination within the same territory. The solution, evidenced everywhere in the world, is to divide the territory into two separate territories of self-determination. Why are the Arab Palestinians the only people on the planet to whom those standards do not apply?

The conflict is one of two competing peoples to self-determination within the same territory.

Indeed, the natives and foreign colonial settlers inside Palestine.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: All The News Anti-Israel Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
※→ P F Tinmore, et al,

You are confusing political platforms and positions with official state doctrine.

And for heaven's sake, don't bring up those old newspaper cuttings and essays by the original members of the World Zionist Organization.

Only Zionist shills will argue with source documents.

(COMMENT)

Source documents and political stances of the various political parties change over time. There is nothing static in politics, which may actually take a view differently.

Most Respectfully,
R

Nonsense, Israel was a settler colonial project then and is a settler colonial project now. Nothing has changed.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: All The News Anti-Israel Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
※→ Billo_Really, et al,

You might give a thought to the question: When did the Hostile Arab Palestinians not target innocent civilians? They still target civilians using cars against pedestrians, or surprise knifings of shoppers.

The Palestinians could have had their “state” a long time ago

That's another bullshit lie. Every time they comply with Israeli demands, you fuckers move the goal posts.

(COMMENT)

The Hague Regulations and the Geneva Convention were around for a long time before the conflict. You cannot claim today that the Customary and International Humanitarian Laws (IHL) have been moving the goal posts.

It is just that the Arab Palestinians think they are a special case and exempt from the Customary and IHL because they call themselves freedom fighters; rather than the sociopaths that they are.

Anyone that argues they have the right to intentionally target unarmed civilians as a policy is simply missing a wrung in the evolutional chain of humanity.

Most Respectfully,
R

When did the Hostile Arab Palestinians not target innocent civilians?

There goes your false premise again. It was Israel that initiated the hostilities.

 

[P F Tinmore]

RE: All The News Anti-Israel Posters Will Not Read Or Discuss
※→ Billo_Really, et al,

NO! You are absolutely - 100% wrong.

Article 51 of the UN Charter is more specific by stating there is only 2 legal ways a country can attack another country and Israel didn't satisfy either one.

(COMMENT)

Article 51 outlines an exception (self-defense). It does not establish the legal criteria for war.

On the other hand, Article to recognizes two other types of conflicts: 1) taking "preventive" action - or - 2) pursuing "enforcement" action.

The use of force is not limited to that mentioned. There are the 19 universal legal instruments and additional amendments dealing with terrorism. Each has resulted in enforcement measures.

Most Respectfully,
R

The Palestinians are constantly pushing for law enforcement measures.

Israel's propaganda has equated Palestinian self defense with terrorism.

 

[P F Tinmore]

What about Israel's violations against Palestine's international boundaries?

Seriously? You can't even maintain the integrity of your own arguments. According to your own arguments, Israel exists within "Palestine's" boundaries. By definition (yours), Israel can not violate Palestine's international boundaries.

The conflict is one of two competing peoples to self-determination within the same territory. The solution, evidenced everywhere in the world, is to divide the territory into two separate territories of self-determination. Why are the Arab Palestinians the only people on the planet to whom those standards do not apply?

According to your own arguments, Israel exists within "Palestine's" boundaries.

It does. That is the conflict in a nutshell. It is not complicated.