Alarm as police search Massachusetts school for ‘Gender Queer’ book

[iamwhatiseem]

You're comfortable for police to search a school without a crime?

Failed strawman.
As stated by the police department, a complaint was filed by a parent stating a banned book by the state education board was available in their library.
As also stated by the department, they are required by law to go to the school and investigate if that complaint is true. They were unable to verify the complaint, as the school said they were unable to locate the books whereabouts.
The police left. That is the end of the story.
You are attempting to make a mountain out of a molehill.

 

[Zincwarrior]

?? They received a complaint and were investigating whether a crime took place.

That justifies POLICE in your world?
1. its not porn; but
2. assume it is, you're sending in police to an 8th classroom for...porn? What kind of fucked up sheltered life have you had to think thats a deal warranting not the assistant principal wandering in and checking, but instead THE POLICE?

Thats crazy bro. No wonder people homeschool.

Failed strawman.

Its not a strawman. It literally happened. They sent the Police for a novel.

 

[Rawley]

That justifies POLICE in your world?
1. its not porn; but\

Illustrations of literally cock in mouth, full on blow job. Not porn? Really:?

2. assume it is, you're sending in police to an 8th classroom for...porn?

I didn't send in the police "bro" They were investigating a criminal complaint.

What kind of fucked up sheltered life have you had to think thats a deal warranting not the assistant principal wandering in and checking, but instead THE POLICE?

Thats crazy bro. No wonder people homeschool

Yup it's all about me. WTF is it with progressives that you can't make reasoned arguments, but rather resort to personal insults?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Illustrations of literally cock in mouth, full on blow job. Not porn? Really:?


I didn't send in the police "bro" They were investigating a criminal complaint.



Yup it's all about me. WTF is it with progressives that you can't make reasoned arguments, but rather resort to personal insults?

In the non crazy world the Asst Principal just wanders down and checks out the situation. No fuss no muss.

8th graders seeing porn? Thats never happened ever. Send in the Police!!!

 

[Rawley]

In the non crazy world the Asst Principal just wanders down and checks out the situation. No fuss no muss.

8th graders seeing porn? Thats never happened ever. Send in the Police!!!

BY a teacher? Do you have kids? Would you have a problem with Mr. Siesta, their eighth grade teacher using Gender Queer to teach your kids about fellatio?

 

[Zincwarrior]

BY a teacher? Do you have kids? Would you have a problem with Mr. Siesta, their eighth grade teacher using Gender Queer to teach your kids about fellatio?

Thats the job of the VP/Principal to enforce school standards and programs, not the POLICE WHO ARE TRAINED TO ARREST MURDERERS AND RAPISTS. Come on Man!

 

[Rawley]

Thats the job of the VP/Principal to enforce school standards and programs, not the POLICE WHO ARE TRAINED TO ARREST MURDERERS AND RAPISTS. Come on Man!

Just curious, is there any line you would draw for the actions of a teacher in school where the police should be involved? Or is everything solely under the jurisdiction of the VP/Principal?

 

[airplanemechanic]

That justifies POLICE in your world?



Its not a strawman. It literally happened. They sent the Police for a novel.

Not sure about where you live, but where I live when a criminal complaint is received, police investigate. Not teachers.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Just curious, is there any line you would draw for the actions of a teacher in school where the police should be involved? Or is everything solely under the jurisdiction of the VP/Principal?

Sure. Things that are actually criminal.

Not sure about where you live, but where I live when a criminal complaint is received, police investigate. Not teachers.

They also have discretion. If I call and say someone has a book with nudey bits in a high school, they are not going to show up.

Additionally, the Principal let them in. Thats not a Constitutional requirement. That Principal will be gone within a week.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

That justifies POLICE in your world?

If you have a problem with the law then take it out on the people who pass the laws and voters who put them in office.

1. its not porn; but

Gender Queer is most definitely porn.

2. assume it is, you're sending in police to an 8th classroom for...porn? What kind of fucked up sheltered life have you had to think thats a deal warranting not the assistant principal wandering in and checking, but instead THE POLICE?

Yes, a school official probably could have done that, but again, it's a parent who called the police and the police are obligated to respond.

Thats crazy bro. No wonder people homeschool.

Its not a strawman. It literally happened. They sent the Police for a novel.

Welcome to Massachusetts.

Honestly, I'm shocked that book was even banned in that state.

 

[Rawley]

Sure. Things that are actually criminal.

Don't know about where you live, but here, showing porn to children is criminal. And I live in loony left California

They also have discretion. If I call and say someone has a book with nudey bits in a high school, they are not going to show up.

Additionally, the Principal let them in. Thats not a Constitutional requirement. That Principal will be gone within a week.

Guess that's the difference between you and I. I applaud this Principal for trying to protect the children. You want him fired for letting the Nazi Stormtroopers in the building.

 

[Orangecat]

Dear me.

Whatta fag.
Why don't you concern yourself with people being arrested for saying non-PC things in your own shithole country.

 

[Zincwarrior]

If you have a problem with the law then take it out on the people who pass the laws and voters who put them in office.

Please cite the law.

Gender Queer is most definitely porn.

How do you know that? When was this adjudicated in a court?
What if a student had it? Arrest them? on what charge?
What if a teacher had it? Arrest them? on what charge?

Yes, a school official probably could have done that, but again, it's a parent who called the police and the police are obligated to respond.

And the police could and should have punted that the school. The Principal should never have let them in over such an 'offense.'

Welcome to Massachusetts.

Wicked Smaht!

Honestly, I'm shocked that book was even banned in that state.

Is it?

 

[Zincwarrior]

Police have now apologized.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/21/us/gender-queer-memoir-middle-school-police-search-reaj/index.html

“As the Chief of Police for the Great Barrington Police Department, I apologize to anyone who was negatively effected by our involvement at the W.E.B. Dubois Middle School on December 8, 2023,” Storti said.




Police said they had received a complaint that day from someone “who witnessed what they perceived to be concerning illustrations” in a book given to students by a teacher at the middle school.

“Over the years, our relationship with our schools has been positive and collaborative, so together we worked with the school to try to navigate this sensitive situation. If our involvement caused distrust and alarm, that was not our intention. I promise you our actions were not meant to disenfranchise anyone or influence school curriculum,” Storti said.

The police department and the Berkshire County District Attorney Timothy Shugrue determined the matter should be referred to the school district, Storti said.

So they did what I suggested. Derp.

The superintendent of the school district has also apologized

In a message sent to the school community Tuesday, Berkshire Hills Regional School District Superintendent Peter Dillon and Stephen Bannon, chair of the Berkshire Hills Regional School Committee, apologized for how the incident was handled by school officials.

“Faced with an unprecedented police investigation of what should be a purely educational issue, we tried our best to serve the interests of students, families, teachers, and staff. In hindsight, we would have approached that moment differently. We are sorry. We can do better to refine and support our existing policies. We are committed to supporting all our students, particularly vulnerable populations,” Dillon and Bannon wrote.

The district plans to hold several meetings to discuss the incident, including at a previously scheduled school committee meeting in January, Dillon and Bannon said.

Ruth Bourquin, senior managing attorney at the ACLU of Massachusetts, condemned the actions of police saying, “This incident is deeply concerning, and a serious escalation of attempts by a vocal minority to ban books that are by and about LGBTQ people, communities of color, and other marginalized groups.”

 

[bodecea]

Yes….such faggotry won’t be tolerated near children.

That’s why we also have restraining orders against pervs to not go near schools. Same concept.

So, keeping religious leaders away from schools. It's a start.

 

[whitehall]

Imagine what would happen if a tip reported a Bible in the school? It's much ado about nothing but the queer advocacy groomers seem to get hysterical at the slightest thing these days. It beats talking about the millions of freaking illegals flooding the borders.

 

[martybegan]

‘What are we doing?’: Alarm as police search Massachusetts school for LBGTQ+ book

ACLU wants body camera footage of encounter

www.independent.co.uk

Dear me. What a lesson for the kids as the US becomes a police state.I am sure that they found it very educational.
This is what right wing authoritarians dream of.
America is lucky that there is so little crime the police have time for this sort of nonsense.

Probably no worse than what would happen if a Bible was thought to be inside a NY Public School.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Probably no worse than what would happen if a Bible was thought to be inside a NY Public School.

Have police ever been called to search out if a Bible was in a school?

 

[martybegan]

Have police ever been called to search out if a Bible was in a school?

Guess you don't get sarcasm anymore...

And the issue was actually a complaint of:

On 8 December, an officer with the Great Barrington Police Department entered WEB Du Bois Regional Middle School looking for the book, following up on an anonymous complaint to the department that the book contained obscene or pornographic materials.

You've never seen the old argument trope of "the bible is far trashier, smuttier and violent than books XYZ"?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Thats the job of the VP/Principal to enforce school standards and programs, not the POLICE WHO ARE TRAINED TO ARREST MURDERERS AND RAPISTS. Come on Man!

Haha.... what are you? - 12?