Al Sharpton states Americans voted for Socialism when they elected Barack Obama!

[Titanic Sailor]

The problem is we were were right all along, and here we are today. Watching liberals supporting corruption to the corporate world and massive thieving government as a good thing. Who knew?

 

[chanel]

Social safety nets are not "socialism" Social programs were implemented to assist the most VULNERABLE citizens - children, elderly and the handicapped. Socialism redistributes wealth to ABLE BODIED adults who either choose not to work or further their education. This shit has got to stop. What did Nancy say the other day about starving artists now being able to pursue their art instead of working for health insurance? I almost lost it when I read that one.

 

[somesense]

How about changing the discussion to a question about Christianity instead of Socialism? I believe that making sure that thousands of citizens don't die each year due to a lack of health insurance is a noble and, in fact, the Christian thing to do.

Do I know the difference between socialism and communism? Yes. My point is that suggesting that voting for Obama or supporting HC is supporting socialism is a pointless discussion. It is focusing on ideology to the exclusion of sense. Why do Republicans care about abortion but prefer to let fellow Americans die because of a crappy health care coverage design? Does that make sense? Only if you choose to focus on silly arguments....like "Obama's a socialist!!!!"

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

Last night after the HC passed the house. An interview was done with Al Sharpton--who is in the below video stating that the majority of Americans voted for SOCIALISM when they voted for Barack Obama.

So to you Obama voters: Were you really voting for Socialism when you voted for Barack Obama.

YouTube - Al Sharpton Claims American Public Voted for Socialism When Electing Obama

DUH!!!

I read Obama's books, saw his friends, learned his background, and knew EXACTLY who got elected.

Im not surprised at all.

 

[somesense]

BTW- If Nancy did say that starving artists can avoid work now, I agree that is a woefully inadequate argument for HC reform. However, we have all seen coffee can collections for unfortunate families who have been hard hit by tragic circumstances. Clearly, those people do deserve a safety net.

 

[chanel]

How about families of four making 88K? Do they deserve a safety net? Where's the handout for the 50K guy who took less pay in exchange for a good benefits package? It is redistributing wealth to people who imply have different priorties and its fucking bullshit.

 

[Intense]

How about changing the discussion to a question about Christianity instead of Socialism? I believe that making sure that thousands of citizens don't die each year due to a lack of health insurance is a noble and, in fact, the Christian thing to do.

Do I know the difference between socialism and communism? Yes. My point is that suggesting that voting for Obama or supporting HC is supporting socialism is a pointless discussion. It is focusing on ideology to the exclusion of sense. Why do Republicans care about abortion but prefer to let fellow Americans die because of a crappy health care coverage design? Does that make sense? Only if you choose to focus on silly arguments....like "Obama's a socialist!!!!"

Where do You come up with this Shit? Christian Charity feeds on the Individual Voluntary Choice, from Private Reserve. There is No Mandate. It is Your Social Net that is crushing Everyone in the middle through incompetence and frivolous spending, not Scawy Republicans. Obama is an Arrogant Power mongering Bully. A Dip Shit.

 

[Charles Stucker]

How about changing the discussion to a question about Christianity instead of Socialism? I believe that making sure that thousands of citizens don't die each year due to a lack of health insurance is a noble and, in fact, the Christian thing to do.

Then let the Christian Churches take up donations to provide health care to the needy. I agree that activity is completely constitutional and would support such wholeheartedly.
Socialist nonsense from the Democrats on the other hand is not constitutional; only the damage done to the checks and balances by FDR allows this farce to continue.

 

[chanel]

I would imagine that most Christian religions (and others) request a small percentage tithing across the board. Kinda like a flat tax. I doubt they demand a higher percentage from the more successful, although it is encouraged to do so VOLUNTARILY.

Missionaries often work overseas in impoverished countries - places where the poor people aren't fat and getting tax payer funded gastric bypass surgery. I imagine Jesus wouldn't be focusing his attention on the obese.

 

[editec]

We vote for socialism every time we vote for a politician that believes in free public schools, medicare, and roads. My God when will you people get it? We don't live in a totally capitalist society... freaking coons.

Idiot.
Roads are not socialist.
Learn the difference between infrastructure and socialism before you post again.

Next thing you'll say is that all the military is socialist.

Public roads, national military, public education, public health, all examples of the COLLECTIVISM necessary to have a nation.

Call it socialism if that rings you chimes, or call it constitutional, or call it whatever label you want to hang on it.

It is what it is regardless of what you or I call it.

It is the unified will of a SOCIETY to solve problems.

 

[LuckyDan]

We vote for socialism every time we vote for a politician that believes in free public schools, medicare, and roads. My God when will you people get it? We don't live in a totally capitalist society... freaking coons.

Idiot.
Roads are not socialist.
Learn the difference between infrastructure and socialism before you post again.

Next thing you'll say is that all the military is socialist.

Public roads, national military, public education, public health, all examples of the COLLECTIVISM necessary to have a nation.

Call it socialism if that rings you chimes, or call it constitutional, or call it whatever label you want to hang on it.

It is what it is regardless of what you or I call it.

It is the unified will of a SOCIETY to solve problems.

No dipshit - all examples of the general welfare, not one half of the nation paying the other half's fucking way.

 

[Intense]

The Deep Secret that the Statist Keeps trying to hide is "Enumerated Powers" of the Federal Government. There is a limited Sphere of Power and Jurisdiction, This is Not being denied. The Consent of the Governed has been ignored for too long.

Health and Welfare Clause, Enumerated Powers, and Even The Commerce Clause of The Constitution have been Raped for too long. Get Your Heads out of Your Ass'es People and Speak up for Human Decency, Human Rights, and Individual Right's while You still can. Property is the defense against Tyranny, as much as Speech, Religion, and the Pursuit of Happiness, for Both the Rich and the Poor.

 

[Intense]

We vote for socialism every time we vote for a politician that believes in free public schools, medicare, and roads. My God when will you people get it? We don't live in a totally capitalist society... freaking coons.

Idiot.
Roads are not socialist.
Learn the difference between infrastructure and socialism before you post again.

Next thing you'll say is that all the military is socialist.

Public roads, national military, public education, public health, all examples of the COLLECTIVISM necessary to have a nation.

Call it socialism if that rings you chimes, or call it constitutional, or call it whatever label you want to hang on it.

It is what it is regardless of what you or I call it.

It is the unified will of a SOCIETY to solve problems.

Mixed Bag of Tricks based on misdirection.

 

[Charles Stucker]

Public roads, national military, public education, public health, all examples of the COLLECTIVISM necessary to have a nation.

It is the unified will of a SOCIETY to solve problems.

No you are obviously ignorant in this area, allow me to illuminate.
Defense and infrastructure (military and roads, sewers, etc) are part of CIVILIZATION without those two society cannot function. Socialism is not building a society (as it turns out socialism is better at destroying a society) it is distributing the wealth of individual members of society to less affluent members through enforced government "sharing" programs.
Thus Socialist Security is a socialist program, while the post office is not (or at least was not when it turned a modest profit from the sale of stamps), infrastructure is not, police, courts and prisons are not.
Honest hard working people did plan for retirement before Socialist security came along; some were more successful than others and hence more comfortable in their retirement. Honest hard working people went to doctors when sick before MediFraud came along; some were more able to afford the care than others and hence got care when they might have simply suffered a minor ailment alone. Honest hard working people built this nation, and taxing them into nonexistence to support idle drudges seems a betrayal of the principles they labored to make reality.

Public education is headed in the direction of socialism, since parents might be told they had to get private schooling for their children, but the skills required to insure that the education is adequate may be lacking in some parents, through no fault of their own, an so a decent case can be made that mandatory public education is a benefit to a democratic nation without forcing the nation to turn completely to socialism.