AGW Question

[Martin Eden Mercury]

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Does AGWCult theory suppose an atmospheric hot spot.

Yes or no

Crick

 

[Billy_Bob]

The famed and fraudulent "Atmospheric Hot" spot has been debunked many times.. Another poster has posted the Trenbreth, Mann, Jones, Briffa and other models which have all missed reality.

I find it funny the University of Washington was looking for it above their state when by its very basic AGW principals it can only exist above the tropics..

And then there are the satellites, which show that it does not exist anywhere on earth.. Sherewood's undying love of AGW has clouded his judgment.. Homogenized wind data.... To dam funny!

Note no hot spot is seen by UAH or RSS... Dang empirical evidence shoots them in the foot again.. (red line is upper troposphere, blue line is lower troposphere empirical data) The red line peak is below the blue line peak indicating that no hot spot exists.

 

[Billy_Bob]

CF, why so much trouble being honest and open? I see you have been here a very long time. Have you devolved or evolved?

Looks like a Abraham, Crick, sock puppet account...

 

[jon_berzerk]

How is being disingenuous an invitation to an open and honest discussion?

Why are you so defensive over such a simple question?

Defensive? Where do you get that from? I would have to assume you are projecting something upon me that is based upon how you view me. Figuring out the why, of how you view me would be an amusing exercise, if I had some more time here today.

You said I "attacked" the theory -- just by asking a question.

Were you trying to attack the theory: yes or no?

notice you did refer to Climate Change as AGWCult theory

I asked a question, a simple one at that

must be a touchy one at that

--LOL

 

[jon_berzerk]

Does AGWCult theory suppose an atmospheric hot spot.

Yes or no

Crick

that is a funny picture btw

--LOL

 

[SSDD]

The theory is one thing. Then there are the models. I am left wondering if CrusaderFrank actually knows what he is asking?

I asked a truly simple question that required a one word answer

If a question is unclear or misleading, there can be no honest answer that is one word. Unless that word be 'nuts!'

Does the AGW Theory suppose an atmospheric Hot Spot?

Yes or No

Which word or words are giving you such trouble?

Hard to backtrack, shuck and jive, duck and cover, dodge and weave, or any of the other dances AGW wackos do in an effort to leave themselves open to revise their story if they use a simple yes or no answer to a yes or no question....the length of the answer a person gives to a yes or no question is proportional to the honesty of their character...the longer the answer, the less honest they are.

 

[Martin Eden Mercury]

SSDD and the use of logical fallacy

 

[Old Rocks]

Global observations of tropospheric BrO columns using GOME-2 satellite data - ProQuest

Abstract. Measurements from the GOME-2 satellite instrument have been analyzed for tropospheric BrO using a residual technique that combines measured BrO columns and estimates of the stratospheric BrO content from a climatological approach driven by O3 and NO2 observations. Comparisons between the GOME-2 results and BrO vertical columns derived from correlative ground-based and SCIAMACHY nadir observations, present a good level of consistency. We show that the adopted technique enables separation of stratospheric and tropospheric fractions of the measured total BrO columns and allows quantitative study of the BrO plumes in polar regions. While some satellite observed plumes of enhanced BrO can be explained by stratospheric descending air, we show that most BrO hotspots are of tropospheric origin, although they are often associated to regions with low tropopause heights as well. Elaborating on simulations using the p-TOMCAT tropospheric chemical transport model, this result is found to be consistent with the mechanism of bromine release through sea salt aerosols production during blowing snow events. No definitive conclusion can be drawn however on the importance of blowing snow sources in comparison to other bromine release mechanisms. Outside polar regions, evidence is provided for a global tropospheric BrO background with column of 1–3 × 1013 molec cm−2 , consistent with previous estimates.

Research

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Global observations of tropospheric BrO columns using GOME-2 satellite data - ProQuest

Abstract. Measurements from the GOME-2 satellite instrument have been analyzed for tropospheric BrO using a residual technique that combines measured BrO columns and estimates of the stratospheric BrO content from a climatological approach driven by O3 and NO2 observations. Comparisons between the GOME-2 results and BrO vertical columns derived from correlative ground-based and SCIAMACHY nadir observations, present a good level of consistency. We show that the adopted technique enables separation of stratospheric and tropospheric fractions of the measured total BrO columns and allows quantitative study of the BrO plumes in polar regions. While some satellite observed plumes of enhanced BrO can be explained by stratospheric descending air, we show that most BrO hotspots are of tropospheric origin, although they are often associated to regions with low tropopause heights as well. Elaborating on simulations using the p-TOMCAT tropospheric chemical transport model, this result is found to be consistent with the mechanism of bromine release through sea salt aerosols production during blowing snow events. No definitive conclusion can be drawn however on the importance of blowing snow sources in comparison to other bromine release mechanisms. Outside polar regions, evidence is provided for a global tropospheric BrO background with column of 1–3 × 1013 molec cm−2 , consistent with previous estimates.

Research

It's a yes or no question.

 

[SSDD]

SSDD and the use of logical fallacy

Martin Eden Mercury trying to distract from the fact that he finds himself unable to answer a simple yes or no question with a simple yes or no.

 

[SSDD]

Global observations of tropospheric BrO columns using GOME-2 satellite data - ProQuest

Abstract. Measurements from the GOME-2 satellite instrument have been analyzed for tropospheric BrO using a residual technique that combines measured BrO columns and estimates of the stratospheric BrO content from a climatological approach driven by O3 and NO2 observations. Comparisons between the GOME-2 results and BrO vertical columns derived from correlative ground-based and SCIAMACHY nadir observations, present a good level of consistency. We show that the adopted technique enables separation of stratospheric and tropospheric fractions of the measured total BrO columns and allows quantitative study of the BrO plumes in polar regions. While some satellite observed plumes of enhanced BrO can be explained by stratospheric descending air, we show that most BrO hotspots are of tropospheric origin, although they are often associated to regions with low tropopause heights as well. Elaborating on simulations using the p-TOMCAT tropospheric chemical transport model, this result is found to be consistent with the mechanism of bromine release through sea salt aerosols production during blowing snow events. No definitive conclusion can be drawn however on the importance of blowing snow sources in comparison to other bromine release mechanisms. Outside polar regions, evidence is provided for a global tropospheric BrO background with column of 1–3 × 1013 molec cm−2 , consistent with previous estimates.

Research

It's a yes or no question.

Yes or no doesn't lend itself to semantics so warmers simply won't answer such questions.

 

[Martin Eden Mercury]

It's a yes or no question.

And here I was told you were one of the more intelligent members here: A loaded question or complex question fallacy?

 

[Martin Eden Mercury]

SSDD and the use of logical fallacy

Martin Eden Mercury trying to distract from the fact that he finds himself unable to answer a simple yes or no question with a simple yes or no.

A loaded question or complex question fallacy

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It's a yes or no question.

And here I was told you were one of the more intelligent members here: A loaded question or complex question fallacy?

It's neither. It's a simple question, no trick, no fallacy.

Does the AGW hypothesis suppose an atmospheric hot spot?

 

[jc456]

Global observations of tropospheric BrO columns using GOME-2 satellite data - ProQuest

Abstract. Measurements from the GOME-2 satellite instrument have been analyzed for tropospheric BrO using a residual technique that combines measured BrO columns and estimates of the stratospheric BrO content from a climatological approach driven by O3 and NO2 observations. Comparisons between the GOME-2 results and BrO vertical columns derived from correlative ground-based and SCIAMACHY nadir observations, present a good level of consistency. We show that the adopted technique enables separation of stratospheric and tropospheric fractions of the measured total BrO columns and allows quantitative study of the BrO plumes in polar regions. While some satellite observed plumes of enhanced BrO can be explained by stratospheric descending air, we show that most BrO hotspots are of tropospheric origin, although they are often associated to regions with low tropopause heights as well. Elaborating on simulations using the p-TOMCAT tropospheric chemical transport model, this result is found to be consistent with the mechanism of bromine release through sea salt aerosols production during blowing snow events. No definitive conclusion can be drawn however on the importance of blowing snow sources in comparison to other bromine release mechanisms. Outside polar regions, evidence is provided for a global tropospheric BrO background with column of 1–3 × 1013 molec cm−2 , consistent with previous estimates.

Research

It's a yes or no question.

Yes or no doesn't lend itself to semantics so warmers simply won't answer such questions.

they don't answer any question, evah!!!!!!

 

[jc456]

SSDD and the use of logical fallacy

Martin Eden Mercury trying to distract from the fact that he finds himself unable to answer a simple yes or no question with a simple yes or no.

A loaded question or complex question fallacy

I didn't see any sour cream, bacon, or cheese on that question. So don't see how it was loaded.

 

[jc456]

It's a yes or no question.

And here I was told you were one of the more intelligent members here: A loaded question or complex question fallacy?

It's neither. It's a simple question, no trick, no fallacy.

Does the AGW hypothesis suppose an atmospheric hot spot?

perhaps he doesn't know the supposed hypothesis. So marvin man, do you know the supposed hypothesis or not, yes or no. Watch out it's a trick question!!!!!LOL

 

[Martin Eden Mercury]

It's a yes or no question.

And here I was told you were one of the more intelligent members here: A loaded question or complex question fallacy?

It's neither. It's a simple question, no trick, no fallacy.

Does the AGW hypothesis suppose an atmospheric hot spot?

It either does, or it does not. DO you know the answer?

 

[Martin Eden Mercury]

SSDD and the use of logical fallacy

Martin Eden Mercury trying to distract from the fact that he finds himself unable to answer a simple yes or no question with a simple yes or no.

A loaded question or complex question fallacy

I didn't see any sour cream, bacon, or cheese on that question. So don't see how it was loaded.

Why would anyone ask a question they believe there is a simple answer to?