Borillar
Platinum Member
I'm going to take a stand and declare what's in everyone's best interests:
The maximum amount of personal liberty conducive to civilized society.
You won't find too many conservatives who disagree. Because conservatives, unlike liberals, recognize that government can only take away liberty.
Then why did they give us the TSA, the DHS, and the Patriot Act if they are so cognizant of personal liberty. Seems to me that the right is only concerned with corporate rights to rip consumers off, and for Bubba to buy unlimited guns. They are perfectly fine with poking their noses into individuals private lives.
You would have to convince me that the people that gave us those things are true conservatives. I'm not saying the are liberals or even progressives, but as a conservative you cannot convince me that the TSA, DHS or the Patriot Act are things that I or the conservatives I know condone.
Simply because those things are Republican shit, doesn't mean those things are supported by conservatives. The Republicans screwed over true conservatives while they were screwing over liberals as well. The people that gave us that shit are elitist power hungry statist and nothing more. They lie about their beliefs in order to gain power just as Obama and Romney are doing today.
Immie
Well, currently the Republican party is the "Conservative" one, although there are a few Blue Dog Democrats. Republicans pride themselves on being conservative and run on conservative values. Republicans voted overwhelmingly for these things, therefore Conservatives must be for them. Ergo Ipso Facto Columbo Oreo.