catzmeow
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I don't want this to get lost, and I don't want to type it again.
Actually, you're mistaken. When people "sag", they are taking it from white culture. It comes from cholo behavior and dates to the 1940s, when Hispanic (white) gang members wore zoot suits that were extremely large and baggy. The Los Angeles County jail forced inmates to remove their belts, and those big baggy pants sagged below their underwear. That sagging became synonymous for spending time in jail, and was adopted first by So Cal Hispanic gang members, and then widely adapted by black gangs like the Crips & Bloods in the 1970s and 80s. In fact, most of what we think of as gang culture in the U.S. is adopted from old WHITE gangs from Los Angeles like White Fence and others...the use of colored bandanas, etc., comes from that era.
Actually, I consider racial hate based upon misinformation to be a much more insidious sort of poison, and you're actively attempting to spread it here.
Absolutely. I am a huge advocate of removing dangerous predators from society, regardless of their skin color.
I'm not blind, I've spent the last 20 years of my life working on this issue, trying to reduce violent crime. However, I think it's also important to understand, and state publicly, that violent criminals are a small subsection of American society.
Less than .03% of black Americans will ever commit a murder, IN THEIR LIFETIME.
Violent crime is at historically low levels in the U.S., in fact, our homicide rate is 1/4 of what it was in 1972 (40 years ago).
Are blacks disproportionately likely to commit a violent crime? Yes. There is no one involved in the criminal justice system who would dispute this fact. But, they are also more likely to live in poverty (in some cases, extreme poverty). They are more likely to attend substandard and inadequate schools. They are more likely to live in a dangerous neighborhood and be victimized by crime. They are more likely to be exposed to and threatened by gangs. They are more likely to experience major family disruption, as children.
If you wish to fix the involvement of black Americans in violent crime, it's important to fix the underlying social conditions that cause violent crime. I can't fix families by myself, but I can support and push for economic revitalization in urban areas. I can push for schools to attain minimal educational standards so all kids in America have an equal opportunity to learn and achieve. And, I can, and have, work to reduce the overall level of violence in communities so all the people who live there are safer.
Those things, we can fix. And, we should.
It is racist to imply that all, or even a majority of blacks are violent criminals. And, by selectively quoting this data, out of context, as you have done, you've done this. And, I suspect that was your goal all along.
It's disgraceful when whites do it, but they're taking it from black culture, a culture that thinks everything is a fucking joke..
Actually, you're mistaken. When people "sag", they are taking it from white culture. It comes from cholo behavior and dates to the 1940s, when Hispanic (white) gang members wore zoot suits that were extremely large and baggy. The Los Angeles County jail forced inmates to remove their belts, and those big baggy pants sagged below their underwear. That sagging became synonymous for spending time in jail, and was adopted first by So Cal Hispanic gang members, and then widely adapted by black gangs like the Crips & Bloods in the 1970s and 80s. In fact, most of what we think of as gang culture in the U.S. is adopted from old WHITE gangs from Los Angeles like White Fence and others...the use of colored bandanas, etc., comes from that era.
Like a poison spreading through the society.
Actually, I consider racial hate based upon misinformation to be a much more insidious sort of poison, and you're actively attempting to spread it here.
Anyone that murders, rapes and thinks destroying someones shop(flash mobs) should pay for their crimes...No matter what color they're!
Absolutely. I am a huge advocate of removing dangerous predators from society, regardless of their skin color.
I'm not saying that blacks are the only ones, but you'd have to be blind not to be shocked at 5 times the murder rate per black person over white.
I'm not blind, I've spent the last 20 years of my life working on this issue, trying to reduce violent crime. However, I think it's also important to understand, and state publicly, that violent criminals are a small subsection of American society.
Less than .03% of black Americans will ever commit a murder, IN THEIR LIFETIME.
Violent crime is at historically low levels in the U.S., in fact, our homicide rate is 1/4 of what it was in 1972 (40 years ago).
Are blacks disproportionately likely to commit a violent crime? Yes. There is no one involved in the criminal justice system who would dispute this fact. But, they are also more likely to live in poverty (in some cases, extreme poverty). They are more likely to attend substandard and inadequate schools. They are more likely to live in a dangerous neighborhood and be victimized by crime. They are more likely to be exposed to and threatened by gangs. They are more likely to experience major family disruption, as children.
If you wish to fix the involvement of black Americans in violent crime, it's important to fix the underlying social conditions that cause violent crime. I can't fix families by myself, but I can support and push for economic revitalization in urban areas. I can push for schools to attain minimal educational standards so all kids in America have an equal opportunity to learn and achieve. And, I can, and have, work to reduce the overall level of violence in communities so all the people who live there are safer.
Those things, we can fix. And, we should.
It isn't racist to point out reality!
It is racist to imply that all, or even a majority of blacks are violent criminals. And, by selectively quoting this data, out of context, as you have done, you've done this. And, I suspect that was your goal all along.
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