Actual Obama Accomplishment

[Trajan]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Sp-VFBbjpE]IT'S PEOPLE! - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Trajan]

No it didn't. And I can prove that using Keynes theories, unlike you, he thought deficit spending is a bad thing.

Can you explain why so many Republicans who voted against the stimulus took the money and created thousands of jobs they took credit for. You sit in front of the Internet. It's easy to find out the truth. Once you find out the truth, get back to me. I want to know, too.

Because, just like the Democrats, they are politicians that are willing to lie to get reelected.

When are you going to learn that I have no problem putting down both sides because I am not a Democrat or a Republican?

hes got to hold on to that, its all he has.....

 

[hortysir]

Funny how everyone is trying to blam Bush for the defict when the thread is about people who gave up on looking for work under Obama.

Don't look behind the curtain

 

[The T]

Funny how everyone is trying to blam Bush for the defict when the thread is about people who gave up on looking for work under Obama.

As long as Obama continues his class warfare rhetoric as he destroys the private sector? They will stop looking until he is removed from office.

 

[Chris]

Funny how everyone is trying to blam Bush for the defict when the thread is about people who gave up on looking for work under Obama.

As long as Obama continues his class warfare rhetoric as he destroys the private sector? They will stop looking until he is removed from office.

Socialist T, what's up?

22 straight months of private sector job growth is not destroying the private sector.

 

[The T]

He made 1,000,000 workers disappear. No one has ever managed to do that before in history.

Initial jobless claims unexpectedly jumped by 24,000 last week to 399,000 as more workers lost their jobs, the Labor Department said Thursday. At the same time, the economy continues to lose workers.

In the 30 months since the recession officially ended, nearly 1 million people have dropped out of the labor force — they aren't working, and they aren't looking — according to data from Labor's Bureau of Labor Statistics. In the past two months, the labor force shrank by 170,000.

This is virtually unprecedented in past economic recoveries, at least since the BLS has kept detailed records. In the past nine recoveries, the labor force had climbed an average 3.5 million by this point, according to an IBD analysis of the BLS data.

"Given weak job prospects, many would-be workers dropped out of (or never entered) the labor force," noted Heidi Shierholz of the Economic Policy Institute in her analysis of the BLS jobs report issued last Friday. "That reduces the measured unemployment rate but does not represent real improvement."

Unprecedented, Tepid Recovery Under Obama Begs Question: Where Did All The Workers Go? - Investors.com

He continues to openly destroy the private sector and bolster the Government and the reliance upon it he favours with redistribution of wealth.

There is NO improvement...but cooking the books to make it look like unemployment is going down as jobs cease to exist.

 

[Chris]

He made 1,000,000 workers disappear. No one has ever managed to do that before in history.

Initial jobless claims unexpectedly jumped by 24,000 last week to 399,000 as more workers lost their jobs, the Labor Department said Thursday. At the same time, the economy continues to lose workers.

In the 30 months since the recession officially ended, nearly 1 million people have dropped out of the labor force — they aren't working, and they aren't looking — according to data from Labor's Bureau of Labor Statistics. In the past two months, the labor force shrank by 170,000.

This is virtually unprecedented in past economic recoveries, at least since the BLS has kept detailed records. In the past nine recoveries, the labor force had climbed an average 3.5 million by this point, according to an IBD analysis of the BLS data.

"Given weak job prospects, many would-be workers dropped out of (or never entered) the labor force," noted Heidi Shierholz of the Economic Policy Institute in her analysis of the BLS jobs report issued last Friday. "That reduces the measured unemployment rate but does not represent real improvement."

Unprecedented, Tepid Recovery Under Obama Begs Question: Where Did All The Workers Go? - Investors.com

He continues to openly destroy the private sector and bolster the Government and the reliance upon it he favours with redistribution of wealth.

There is NO improvement...but cooking the books to make it look like unemployment is going down as jobs cease to exist.

Socialist T, you know better than that....

 

[Trajan]

He made 1,000,000 workers disappear. No one has ever managed to do that before in history.

Initial jobless claims unexpectedly jumped by 24,000 last week to 399,000 as more workers lost their jobs, the Labor Department said Thursday. At the same time, the economy continues to lose workers.

In the 30 months since the recession officially ended, nearly 1 million people have dropped out of the labor force — they aren't working, and they aren't looking — according to data from Labor's Bureau of Labor Statistics. In the past two months, the labor force shrank by 170,000.

This is virtually unprecedented in past economic recoveries, at least since the BLS has kept detailed records. In the past nine recoveries, the labor force had climbed an average 3.5 million by this point, according to an IBD analysis of the BLS data.

"Given weak job prospects, many would-be workers dropped out of (or never entered) the labor force," noted Heidi Shierholz of the Economic Policy Institute in her analysis of the BLS jobs report issued last Friday. "That reduces the measured unemployment rate but does not represent real improvement."

Unprecedented, Tepid Recovery Under Obama Begs Question: Where Did All The Workers Go? - Investors.com

They are Boomers retiring!!! And the right-wing extremist Investors Business Daily knows it!!! You have at least 150,000 to 200,000 Boomers retiring every month.

If you remember, when Bush was trying to privatize SS all you heard from CON$ was how Boomers would be retiring in greater numbers than new workers to take up the slack. Every day CON$ would say there would be more retirees and fewer workers paying into SS as the rationalization for privatizing SS, and now suddenly they know nothing about Boomers retiring. Proving once again CON$ are on all sides of every issue depending on which way the wind blows.

so the reduction in the LPR is due to......boomers retiring? is that your position?

 

[Trajan]

He made 1,000,000 workers disappear. No one has ever managed to do that before in history.



Unprecedented, Tepid Recovery Under Obama Begs Question: Where Did All The Workers Go? - Investors.com

He continues to openly destroy the private sector and bolster the Government and the reliance upon it he favours with redistribution of wealth.

There is NO improvement...but cooking the books to make it look like unemployment is going down as jobs cease to exist.

Socialist T, you know better than that....

god you're such an imbecile.

 

[Chris]

He made 1,000,000 workers disappear. No one has ever managed to do that before in history.

Unprecedented, Tepid Recovery Under Obama Begs Question: Where Did All The Workers Go? - Investors.com

They are Boomers retiring!!! And the right-wing extremist Investors Business Daily knows it!!! You have at least 150,000 to 200,000 Boomers retiring every month.

If you remember, when Bush was trying to privatize SS all you heard from CON$ was how Boomers would be retiring in greater numbers than new workers to take up the slack. Every day CON$ would say there would be more retirees and fewer workers paying into SS as the rationalization for privatizing SS, and now suddenly they know nothing about Boomers retiring. Proving once again CON$ are on all sides of every issue depending on which way the wind blows.

so the reduction in the LPR is due to......boomers retiring? is that your position?

10,000 boomers a day are turning 65 this year.

And it's all Obama's fault!!!

 

[asaratis]

He made 1,000,000 workers disappear. No one has ever managed to do that before in history.

Initial jobless claims unexpectedly jumped by 24,000 last week to 399,000 as more workers lost their jobs, the Labor Department said Thursday. At the same time, the economy continues to lose workers.

In the 30 months since the recession officially ended, nearly 1 million people have dropped out of the labor force — they aren't working, and they aren't looking — according to data from Labor's Bureau of Labor Statistics. In the past two months, the labor force shrank by 170,000.

This is virtually unprecedented in past economic recoveries, at least since the BLS has kept detailed records. In the past nine recoveries, the labor force had climbed an average 3.5 million by this point, according to an IBD analysis of the BLS data.

"Given weak job prospects, many would-be workers dropped out of (or never entered) the labor force," noted Heidi Shierholz of the Economic Policy Institute in her analysis of the BLS jobs report issued last Friday. "That reduces the measured unemployment rate but does not represent real improvement."

Unprecedented, Tepid Recovery Under Obama Begs Question: Where Did All The Workers Go? - Investors.com

This is the only reason that the White House can claim the unemployment rate has gone down. The unemployment rate is expressed as a percentage of the work force. The workforce consists of all employed civilian workers, all military and government employees and all those actively looking for work. When people quit looking, they leave the work force number and unemployment appears to have been reduced. Obama takes credit for reducing unemployment! Typical liberal bullshit! Just like Bill Clinton's alleged surplus...typical liberal bullshit!

 

[The T]

He made 1,000,000 workers disappear. No one has ever managed to do that before in history.

Unprecedented, Tepid Recovery Under Obama Begs Question: Where Did All The Workers Go? - Investors.com

They are Boomers retiring!!! And the right-wing extremist Investors Business Daily knows it!!! You have at least 150,000 to 200,000 Boomers retiring every month.

If you remember, when Bush was trying to privatize SS all you heard from CON$ was how Boomers would be retiring in greater numbers than new workers to take up the slack. Every day CON$ would say there would be more retirees and fewer workers paying into SS as the rationalization for privatizing SS, and now suddenly they know nothing about Boomers retiring. Proving once again CON$ are on all sides of every issue depending on which way the wind blows.

so the reduction in the LPR is due to......boomers retiring? is that your position?

And IF that is his position? Then Gubmint has come up witha solution to deal with them via Obamacare...It's called IPAB.

 

[Chris]

He continues to openly destroy the private sector and bolster the Government and the reliance upon it he favours with redistribution of wealth.

There is NO improvement...but cooking the books to make it look like unemployment is going down as jobs cease to exist.

Socialist T, you know better than that....

god you're such an imbecile.

Hardly.

But I am smart enough to know that insulting people you don't know on the internet is kind of silly.

Don't you agree?

 

[Dr Grump]

He made 1,000,000 workers disappear. No one has ever managed to do that before in history.

Initial jobless claims unexpectedly jumped by 24,000 last week to 399,000 as more workers lost their jobs, the Labor Department said Thursday. At the same time, the economy continues to lose workers.

In the 30 months since the recession officially ended, nearly 1 million people have dropped out of the labor force — they aren't working, and they aren't looking — according to data from Labor's Bureau of Labor Statistics. In the past two months, the labor force shrank by 170,000.

This is virtually unprecedented in past economic recoveries, at least since the BLS has kept detailed records. In the past nine recoveries, the labor force had climbed an average 3.5 million by this point, according to an IBD analysis of the BLS data.

"Given weak job prospects, many would-be workers dropped out of (or never entered) the labor force," noted Heidi Shierholz of the Economic Policy Institute in her analysis of the BLS jobs report issued last Friday. "That reduces the measured unemployment rate but does not represent real improvement."

Unprecedented, Tepid Recovery Under Obama Begs Question: Where Did All The Workers Go? - Investors.com

This is the only reason that the White House can claim the unemployment rate has gone down. The unemployment rate is expressed as a percentage of the work force. The workforce consists of all employed civilian workers, all military and government employees and all those actively looking for work. When people quit looking, they leave the work force number and unemployment appears to have been reduced. Obama takes credit for reducing unemployment! Typical liberal bullshit! Just like Bill Clinton's alleged surplus...typical liberal bullshit!

It was a surplus. You obviously know nothing of economics...

 

[Chris]

He made 1,000,000 workers disappear. No one has ever managed to do that before in history.

Initial jobless claims unexpectedly jumped by 24,000 last week to 399,000 as more workers lost their jobs, the Labor Department said Thursday. At the same time, the economy continues to lose workers.

In the 30 months since the recession officially ended, nearly 1 million people have dropped out of the labor force — they aren't working, and they aren't looking — according to data from Labor's Bureau of Labor Statistics. In the past two months, the labor force shrank by 170,000.

This is virtually unprecedented in past economic recoveries, at least since the BLS has kept detailed records. In the past nine recoveries, the labor force had climbed an average 3.5 million by this point, according to an IBD analysis of the BLS data.

"Given weak job prospects, many would-be workers dropped out of (or never entered) the labor force," noted Heidi Shierholz of the Economic Policy Institute in her analysis of the BLS jobs report issued last Friday. "That reduces the measured unemployment rate but does not represent real improvement."

Unprecedented, Tepid Recovery Under Obama Begs Question: Where Did All The Workers Go? - Investors.com

This is the only reason that the White House can claim the unemployment rate has gone down. The unemployment rate is expressed as a percentage of the work force. The workforce consists of all employed civilian workers, all military and government employees and all those actively looking for work. When people quit looking, they leave the work force number and unemployment appears to have been reduced. Obama takes credit for reducing unemployment! Typical liberal bullshit! Just like Bill Clinton's alleged surplus...typical liberal bullshit!

Home sales are going up, auto sales are going up, retail sales are going up, and unemployment is going down.

It really hurts you, doesn't it?

 

[The T]

He made 1,000,000 workers disappear. No one has ever managed to do that before in history.



Unprecedented, Tepid Recovery Under Obama Begs Question: Where Did All The Workers Go? - Investors.com

He continues to openly destroy the private sector and bolster the Government and the reliance upon it he favours with redistribution of wealth.

There is NO improvement...but cooking the books to make it look like unemployment is going down as jobs cease to exist.

Socialist T, you know better than that....

I do...and YOU aren't cutting it...poseur.

 

[edthecynic]

If you are correct that the BLS is to thickheaded to correct for that figure then I am sure you can find the corrected figure and post it.

Again, it is not the BLS that is thickheaded, it is your source IBD that is DISHONEST.

The BLS does give the unemployment rate that includes discouraged workers, it is the U-4 rate. The BLS U-4 rate for December is 9.1% seasonally adjusted and 8.8% unadjusted, which I have already posted earlier in this thread. IBD dishonestly fabricated a U-4 rate of 11% by counting retirees as discouraged workers. IBD are a bunch of CON$ervative liars.

From your IBD link in your OP:
According to the BLS, the "labor force participation rate" — the ratio of the number of people either working or looking for work compared with the entire working-age population — is now 64%, down from 65.7% when the recession ended in June 2009. That's the lowest level since women began entering the workforce in far greater numbers several decades ago.
If you adjust for this drop, the unemployment rate would be close to 11%, instead of the official 8.5%.

Like I said, post the numbers. So far all you have done is claim that one set of numbers that has nothing to do with discouraged workers is down, not sure how that actually proves IBD is lying, even if it is true, but you insist it does.

I've already posted the current U-4 numbers twice. You and IBD are just too dishonest to admit the truth.

Table A-15. Alternative measures of labor underutilization

U-3 Total unemployed, as a percent of the civilian labor force (official unemployment rate)

U-4 Total unemployed plus discouraged workers, as a percent of the civilian labor force

 

[edthecynic]

He made 1,000,000 workers disappear. No one has ever managed to do that before in history.

Unprecedented, Tepid Recovery Under Obama Begs Question: Where Did All The Workers Go? - Investors.com

They are Boomers retiring!!! And the right-wing extremist Investors Business Daily knows it!!! You have at least 150,000 to 200,000 Boomers retiring every month.

If you remember, when Bush was trying to privatize SS all you heard from CON$ was how Boomers would be retiring in greater numbers than new workers to take up the slack. Every day CON$ would say there would be more retirees and fewer workers paying into SS as the rationalization for privatizing SS, and now suddenly they know nothing about Boomers retiring. Proving once again CON$ are on all sides of every issue depending on which way the wind blows.

so the reduction in the LPR is due to......boomers retiring? is that your position?

The bulk of the reduction in the labor force is Boomers retiring. 10,000 Boomers reach retirement age every DAY, and nearly 3 out of 4 retire as soon as they are eligible to collect at age 62. Do the math.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Soylent Green is PEOPLE!!!!!!!

 

[thereisnospoon]

He made 1,000,000 workers disappear. No one has ever managed to do that before in history.

Initial jobless claims unexpectedly jumped by 24,000 last week to 399,000 as more workers lost their jobs, the Labor Department said Thursday. At the same time, the economy continues to lose workers.

In the 30 months since the recession officially ended, nearly 1 million people have dropped out of the labor force — they aren't working, and they aren't looking — according to data from Labor's Bureau of Labor Statistics. In the past two months, the labor force shrank by 170,000.

This is virtually unprecedented in past economic recoveries, at least since the BLS has kept detailed records. In the past nine recoveries, the labor force had climbed an average 3.5 million by this point, according to an IBD analysis of the BLS data.

"Given weak job prospects, many would-be workers dropped out of (or never entered) the labor force," noted Heidi Shierholz of the Economic Policy Institute in her analysis of the BLS jobs report issued last Friday. "That reduces the measured unemployment rate but does not represent real improvement."

Unprecedented, Tepid Recovery Under Obama Begs Question: Where Did All The Workers Go? - Investors.com

Recovery, get it? Recovery from Republican's disastrous policies. They have nothing new. So what is their plan now? That we all live in piano boxes? There aren't enough pianos.

Oh shut the fuck up....You cannot escape the facts.
Look genius, politicians cannot fix the economy. They sure can wreck it. And that is precisely what Obama's admin has been doing. They are doing this to create dependency on government. Obama is a socialist. Period.