Republicans move toward the left

[Chris]

It is interesting to see the decline of the Tea Party and the move by the Republican Party to a presidential candidate who calls himself "progressive."

The world is always moving to be more progressive....even the Republicans.

 

[occupied]

I guess the tea party experiment is over, they finally found out that there is actually such a thing as being too far right.

 

[Chris]

Isn't it ironic that Republicans chose their most progressive presidential candidate?

 

[Dot Com]

poor, extreme conservative, base

 

[Baruch Menachem]

We have had exactly one primary. One. The guy is from the state next door. He is spending a ton of money. For the vast majority of Republicans he is like the last choice.

and come the general election, if he is the nominee, he will get trounced in a manner that would be reminiscent of McGovern or Landon. Too many Republicans will stay at home to bother voting for him, and the independents usually feel that if you are going to vote for a liberal, you might as well go the whole deal and vote Obama. This year the Tparty will be only madder. And next year they will be bigger.

Obama will always be known as the candidate who one through opposition research rather than campaining on his own ideas, which are sadly lacking.

 

[free_speech]

I guess the tea party experiment is over, they finally found out that there is actually such a thing as being too far right.

The Tea party isn't over and they aren't too right....YOU are just too left. Wanting taxes cut and the doing something about the deficit is not too far right. Only a blind lefty like you can't see that.

 

[Chris]

poor, extreme conservative, base

There problem is that anyone crazy enough to appeal to the base can't be smart enough to win the general election.

So Republicans always have to chose someone who is more liberal than they are.

 

[Chris]

I guess the tea party experiment is over, they finally found out that there is actually such a thing as being too far right.

The Tea party isn't over and they aren't too right....YOU are just too left. Wanting taxes cut and the doing something about the deficit is not too far right. Only a blind lefty like you can't see that.

Cutting taxes increases the deficit.

In fact most of the National Debt was created by Reagan and Bush cutting taxes for the rich.

 

[occupied]

I guess the tea party experiment is over, they finally found out that there is actually such a thing as being too far right.

The Tea party isn't over and they aren't too right....YOU are just too left. Wanting taxes cut and the doing something about the deficit is not too far right. Only a blind lefty like you can't see that.

Tax cuts=spending=deficits. Learn it, know it, live it.

 

[Charles_Main]

I guess the tea party experiment is over, they finally found out that there is actually such a thing as being too far right.

The Tea party isn't over and they aren't too right....YOU are just too left. Wanting taxes cut and the doing something about the deficit is not too far right. Only a blind lefty like you can't see that.

Cutting taxes increases the deficit.

In fact most of the National Debt was created by Reagan and Bush cutting taxes for the rich.

How long you going to continue to Repeat those canned Liberal Lies? Dude you have got to be the best little Marxist Propagandist on the board. Do you get your pay checks direct from the DNC?

lol

 

[Chris]

The Tea party isn't over and they aren't too right....YOU are just too left. Wanting taxes cut and the doing something about the deficit is not too far right. Only a blind lefty like you can't see that.

Cutting taxes increases the deficit.

In fact most of the National Debt was created by Reagan and Bush cutting taxes for the rich.

How long you going to continue to Repeat those canned Liberal Lies? Dude you have got to be the best little Marxist Propagandist on the board. Do you get your pay checks direct from the DNC?

lol

According to Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 1950 - 1999, the debt at the end of the 1980 fiscal year, on September 30th, 1980, was $907,701,000,000. On September 30th, 1981, it was $997,855,000,000. Averaging it out over the year gives a debt of $246,997,260.27 per day.

Reagan took office 112 days later on January 20th, 1981. The debt on that date could be estimated as $907,701,000,000 plus 112 x $246,997,260.27, or $935,364,693,151.

Bill Clinton was the first president to slow the rate of the accrual of debt after the current out-of-control spending began with the Borrow and Spend Republicans in 1981.

The final amount of the senior Bush debt was $4,174,218,594,232.91 (according to Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)), and Clinton became president on January 20th, 1993. Bill Clinton saw $1,553,558,144,071.73 added to the national debt during the eight years of his presidency.

However, from the start of fiscal year 1994 (7 months after Clinton became president), until the start of fiscal year 2002 (7 months after Bush took office), the amount of money paid toward interest on the existing Federal debt was $2,767,282,794,374.59 (Government - Interest Expense on the Debt Outstanding).

Therefore, no amount of the national debt is attributable to Bill Clinton - his policies of higher taxes and reduced spending actually simultaneously reduced the debt and brought about the strongest economy since World War II, despite the fiscal disaster left in the wake of Reagan and the first Bush.

The debt was at $5,727,776,738,304.64 on January 19th, 2001, the last business day before George W. Bush took the office of president. The debt was at $10,628,881,485,510.23 on January 16th, 2009, the last business day before Barack H. Obama became president.

During his administration, George W. Bush
increased the national debt by $4,901,104,747,205.59
and personally approved of the creation of 46% of the entire national debt,
in only 8 years.

Starting in 2003, George W. Bush destroyed the world economy by encouraging U.S. banks to make loans to those who could not afford them, through schemes such as the "American Dream Downpayment Initiative", and through the destruction of oversight, such as lawsuits to prevent state securities laws from being enforced on Bush's watch. Once Bush's policies led to their inevitable result of economic collapse, the United States found itself in a situation where it had to take on debt in order to restore the economy.

This means that all of the money spent to restore the economy, until it is restored, is also attributable to George W. Bush.

Further, with our interest payments on the current debt at almost half a trillion dollars per year, that amount will be attributed to Borrow-And-Spend Republicanism as well.

That means that Ronald Wilson Reagan, George Herbert Walker Bush, and George Walker Bush's borrow-and-spend Republican administrations oversaw, approved, or caused to be spent, almost all of the national debt, except for as much as $935,364,693,151.00.

ReaganBushDebt.org Calculation Details

 

[zonly1]

Isn't it ironic that Republicans chose their most progressive presidential candidate?

Isn't ironic that in 2008 stump speech Obumer stated our debt was irresponsible, unpatriotic when just recently he is/was asking for another debt ceiling raise of 1.2 trillion.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kuTG19Cu_Q]Obama says adding $4 trillion to debt is unpatriotic. - YouTube[/ame]

Obumer administration spending over 3x per day vs Bush and yet continues to blame bush.
He continues to divide and not lead...failed leadership. Always the excuses and never the solutions.

 

[Gagafritz]

The problem is that you can only vote for whomever decides to run. The Repo has an obvious lack of brass balls and most of them are happy to sit on the sidelines getting as fat as Christie. There arent' many men or women who actually want to take up the mantle of leadership but want to sit on their arses collecting a check instead. Too bad.

 

[editec]

Republicans always move "to the left" when moving to the left gives their masters more money or more control.

This isn't obvious?

 

[Gagafritz]

It goes either way on both sides. Duh.

 

[California Girl]

I guess the tea party experiment is over, they finally found out that there is actually such a thing as being too far right.

You keep telling yourself that, if it helps. Just because they're not 'occupying' doesn't mean they've gone away. They haven't.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Please. Have they all decided to just take some time off?

 

[Gagafritz]

Well, i heard Obama's war chest was the equivalent of about what we spend on Easter candy in one day so it isn't so insurmountable. And, the sure thing often winds up not being the sure thing. Hillary was the sure thing until Obama.

 

[AVG-JOE]

I guess the tea party experiment is over, they finally found out that there is actually such a thing as being too far right.

Don't bet on that - it's not the number on the membership rolls that counts in American politics, it's how much money the few members you do have can bring to your SuperPAC.

 

[Gagafritz]

The Tea Party is alive and well and in a neighborhood near you.