ABC News Lays Out how Gunman got his Rifle for Colorado Springs Shooting

[Godboy]

Incredibly sad, totally unbelievable reasoning. Dude clearly should not be allowed to have a firearm.

In a crowded place, a long rifle is the WORST gun to have. The reason he got tackled was likely because he couldnt swing the barrel towards the tackler fast enough.

Wrestling a rifle away from someone is a lot easier than wrestling away a pistol. Lets hope that mass shooters keep using cool looking rifles, as opposed to pistols.

 

[2aguy]

It`s "normal gun owners" who allow their guns to be stolen from cars. Years ago, one of my co-workers was telling me that he bought a new gun to take to Smoky National Park (that was illegal at the time until Obama changed the law). I asked him if he was concerned about someone stealing the gun from his car and he said it was no big deal because the gun wasn`t expensive. He didn`t give a shit about arming a criminal. Yes, he was a law abiding idiot citizen and there are millions who do the same thing.

No.....it is anti-gun fanatics like you who force normal gun owners to keep their guns in their cars instead of carrying them into stores, churches, schools...you did that, not normal gun owners.

Then, when the criminal who actually steals the gun is captured by police, you shitheads are releasing them with no cash bail so they can not only steal more guns, so they can go ahead and shoot people....

That is on you.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

In many cases red flag laws don't work because families won't let them work.

Having nothing to do with the efficacy of the laws themselves.

Indeed, no measure to address gun crime and violence is presented as a ‘panacea’ for all gun crime and violence.

Gun crime and violence is a complex issue requiring a multi-faceted approach, including protective orders.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

'Blow it to holy hell:' Footage shows Anderson Lee Aldrich live-streamed 2021 bomb incident from Colorado Springs home

Video footage obtained by The Gazette Monday sheds more light on the circumstances surrounding a June 2021 bomb threat incident in which Anderson Lee Aldrich, identified by police as the

gazette.com

"“If they breach, I’ma f***ing blow it to holy hell,” Aldrich can be heard saying about law enforcement. “Go ahead and come on in, boys. Let’s f***ing see it.”

This could be construed as a suicide attempt.

Most, if not all, states have laws allowing law enforcement to order individuals who are a harm to themselves or others to be taken to a mental health facility for evaluation.

If warranted, mental health professionals could petition a court to review the medial evidence and adjudicate the individual as being mentally incompetent.

Such an adjudication would be submitted to the NICS database of prohibited persons.

As a prohibited person, Aldrich would not be able to purchase a firearm from a Federally licensed firearm dealer, as he did in this case.

 

[White 6]

Having nothing to do with the efficacy of the laws themselves.

Indeed, no measure to address gun crime and violence is presented as a ‘panacea’ for all gun crime and violence.

Gun crime and violence is a complex issue requiring a multi-faceted approach, including protective orders.

I hear ya. As usual, I am sitting right in the middle on the 2A controversies. Like you said, no measure presented will solve all. While red flag laws appear only marginally effective, when effective, getting more attention (negative attention) when they fail to protect, as those failure are glaring and nationwide public, while when they work it is private, local and attracting no attention at all. Many on the far right only see the potential for abuse, ignoring the benefit, only seeing the possibility of someone pushing to wrongfully take away their guns and giving all gun owners an unqualified benefit of the doubt. It depends completely on how it is written in whatever state and how it put into effect and cannot be a kneejerk, but how do you get the right combination with any consistency across the country? I certainly do not see a way. It will continue to publicly fail.

 

[22lcidw]

Agree. But you still have to prosecute them and they still need to be found guilty in a court or law.

El Paso county is extremely Republican, don’t forget. Your attempts to automatically blame Democrats seems to be unsupported.

So you are saying that the Gay Bar would not be operating in the middle of a Progressive socialist African American ghetto.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Derrick Rump?
Dude was destined to be gay.

 

[candycorn]

Nope.....read my post again...slowly.....maybe have a 5 year old read it to you....

the majority of prosectors and judges releasing violent criminals are democrats,

The mother doesn't have to cooperate....they have him making a bomb threat and kidnapping.....and they could have simply had him committed for psychiatric evaluation...which would have blocked the legal purchase of the gun....

They also had current Red Flag laws you assholes bitched about.....and they didn't use it....didn't need anything from the mother for that after the felonies he committed.

You're actually stating that the person who was threatened doesn't have to cooperate with authorities trying to prosecute someone for making a threat? You've reached sub-human intelligence.

 

[candycorn]

Lets hope that mass shooters keep using cool looking rifles, as opposed to pistols.

We should hope that we could become adult enough as a nation to all agree that gun nuts shouldn't have access to an arsenal and unlimited amounts of bullets.

 

[theHawk]

He threatened to blow up his mother with a bomb, yet was never charged by the DA. Thus is not put on any “no buy” list or red flag laws.

The guy was a loon who wanted to blow up his own mother. He’s probably a fag or a tranny himself.

Aaaand theHawk was right again:

https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2022-11-22/rage-and-sadness-as-colorado-club-shooting-victims-honored

 

[theHawk]

We should hope that we could become adult enough as a nation to all agree that gun nuts shouldn't have access to an arsenal and unlimited amounts of bullets.

I think we can all agree that homosexuals, trannies, and “non-binary” types should all be not able to buy guns. In fact they should be institutionalized.

The shooter is a non-binary dipshit. He’s one of yours.

 

[August West]

I think we can all agree that homosexuals, trannies, and “non-binary” types should all be not able to buy guns. In fact they should be institutionalized.

The shooter is a non-binary dipshit. He’s one of yours.

He`s not one of mine. I support serious gun control. 2A will be along any minute now to tell us that everyone in the Virginia Walmart yesterday should have been armed and no one would have been shot.
It`s the red hats that need to be institutionalized.

 

[Godboy]

We should hope that we could become adult enough as a nation to all agree that gun nuts shouldn't have access to an arsenal and unlimited amounts of bullets.

If you have a way to identify mass shooters before they kill people, let us know. That would be awesome!

 

[j-mac]

As you defend him time and again

So you think someone with this demonstrated anger issue should have been able to buy a gun?

I think his record was clear, and his record allowed him to purchase. Colorado has red flag laws, why’d he pass?

 

[j-mac]

He`s not one of mine. I support serious gun control. 2A will be along any minute now to tell us that everyone in the Virginia Walmart yesterday should have been armed and no one would have been shot.
It`s the red hats that need to be institutionalized.

There ya go, lock up anyone who doesn’t agree with you eh?

 

[2aguy]

He`s not one of mine. I support serious gun control. 2A will be along any minute now to tell us that everyone in the Virginia Walmart yesterday should have been armed and no one would have been shot.
It`s the red hats that need to be institutionalized.

Has someone been armed they likely could have stopped the shooting...........

Within 15 seconds of a gunman opening fire inside a mall in Greenwood, Indiana, Elisjsha Dicken was able to step in and prevent further deaths.


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West Virginia woman....



Witnesses said Butler seemed agitated and left but returned to the complex shortly after, armed with an AR-15 style rifle, and started shooting at the crowd.

Police said a woman pulled out her pistol, shooting and killing him.

"This lady was carrying a lawful firearm," Hazelett said. "A law abiding citizen who stopped the threat of probably 20 or 30 people getting killed. She engaged the threat and stopped it. She didn't run from the threat, she engaged it. Preventing a mass casualty event here in Charleston."






Woman credited with stopping mass shooting at apartment complex in West Virginia

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As Hunt and other partiers had a bite to eat in the kitchen, the suspect pulled out a gun and began firing on the crowd, sending everyone fleeing, Mendez recounted.



Mendez was shot in the head in front of his wife, who rushed to his side and believed he was dead due to the amount of blood covering his face. She then grabbed their two daughters and put them into a room deeper in the house, barricading them and other children inside.



"She barricaded the door with the dresser. There were three other children in there, not including my two daughters. A total of five kids. She … throws them in the closet, throws clothes over them. Tells them, ‘Be quiet. Do not make a peep if you hear loud noises in this room,’" Mendez said of his wife's actions.



As Hunt continued his alleged rampage, two other women began fighting back against the suspect and screamed for Mendez, knowing he had a concealed carry weapon, Mendez said.



"By the glory of God or the adrenaline and just everything, just the will to live and the will to protect my family, I was able to hear those pleas, those yells for help. I heard my name. And I was able to get up," he said.



He was able to pull out his firearm and shoot the suspect four times in the chest.



"Detectives have determined the individual who shot Jason, and others who fought against Jason, were acting in self-defense and defense of other innocent parties," Sgt. Tommy Hale said in a press release days after the incident, KTAR reported at the time.

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Shotgun attacker at Church service....



Wilson’s single shot quickly ended the attack that killed Wallace, 64, and White, 67, at the West Freeway Church of Christ in the Fort Worth-area town of White Settlement. He said the entire confrontation was over in no more than six seconds. More than 240 congregants were in the church at the time.



Firearms instructor took out gunman at Texas church service

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Southerland Springs Church shooting .....



Willeford propped his AR-15 on the pickup’s hood and peered through the sight. He could see a holographic red dot on the man’s chest. He fired twice. He wasn’t sure he’d hit him, though he was later told that the man had contusions on his chest and abdomen consistent with getting shot while wearing body armor. Regardless, the gunman stopped shooting and ran for a white Ford Explorer that was idling outside the chapel, roughly twenty yards from where Willeford had positioned himself.



The Hero of Sutherland Springs Is Still Reckoning with What Happened that Day



Deputies: Osceola pastor shot church janitor in self-defense

According to deputies, Parangan pulled out a handgun and fired multiple shots at Pastor Terry Howell, who took out his own weapon and fired back, striking Parangan.

Howell was not injured, but Parangan was taken to Osceola Regional Medical Center in critical condition.

Deputies said several church employees witnessed the incident and gave similar statements.

this Psychiatrist was not an off duty cop.....

Penn. psychiatric center shooting intended mass killing: DA

The Pennsylvania patient accused of killing his caseworker in a psychiatric center shooting carried dozens of bullets — and he would have likely continued shooting if a doctor didn’t fire back, officials said.

Richard Plotts, 49, is expected to be charged with murder for allegedly opening fire at Sister Marie Lenahan Wellness Center in Darby Thursday.

After he killed his caseworker, 53-year-old Theresa Hunt, and shot his psychiatrist, Lee Silverman, the wounded doctor fired back, stopping the attack, District Attorney Jack Whelan said in a Friday press conference.

Plotts had 39 more bullets on him. He intended a mass shooting, Whelan said.

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This past Sunday, exactly two weeks to the day after the Pulse attack, there was a mass shooting outside a night club in South Carolina. I’m sure you haven’t heard about it, and for two good reasons. The first reason is that the attempted murderer was unsuccessful in killing any of his victims. The second reason is because the attempted murderer was stopped by a concealed carrier at the club drawing his weapon and putting a bullet into the bad guy.


Lyman man charged following shooting at nightclub

 

[2aguy]

He`s not one of mine. I support serious gun control. 2A will be along any minute now to tell us that everyone in the Virginia Walmart yesterday should have been armed and no one would have been shot.
It`s the red hats that need to be institutionalized.

You mean like this one?


BREAKING: Man Opens Fire At Oklahoma Walmart, Confronted By Armed Citizen, Report Says

Two people were killed at a Walmart in Oklahoma by a man who opened fire in the parking lot on Monday before turning the weapon on himself after an armed citizen confronted him.
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The assailant, who has not yet been identified, shot and killed a man and a woman in the parking lot and when he was “confronted by an armed citizen, he then turned the gun on himself,” The Daily Mail reported.
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How often do armed citizens manage to save lives in mass public shootings?

Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events [FBI]

Of all the active shooter events there were 33 at which an armed citizen was present. Of those, Armed Citizens were successful at stopping the Active shooter 75.8% of the time (25 incidents) and were successful in reducing the loss of life in an additional 18.2% (6) of incidents. In only 2 of the 33 incidents (6.1%) was the Armed Citizen(s) not helpful in any way in stopping the active shooter or reducing the loss of life.

Thus the headline of our report that Armed Citizens Are Successful 94% Of The Time At Active Shooter Events.


In the 2 incidents at which the armed citizen “failed” to stop or slow the active shooter, one is the previously mentioned incident with hunters. The other is an incident in which the CCWer was shot in the back in a Las Vegas Walmart when he failed to identify that there were 2 Active Shooters involved in the attack. He neglected to identify the one that shot him in the back while he was trying to ambush the other perpetrator.

We also decided to look at the breakdown of events that took place in gun free zones and the relative death toll from events in gun free zones vs non-gun-free zones.

Of the 283 incidents in our data pool, we were unable to identify if the event took place in a gun-free zone in a large number (41%) of the events. Most of the events took place at a business, church, home, or other places at which as a rule of law it is not a gun free zone but potentially could have been declared one by the property owner. Without any information in the FBI study or any indication one way or the other from the news reports, we have indicated that event with a question mark.

If you look at all of the Active Shooter events (pie chart on the top) you see that for those which we have the information, almost twice as many took place in gun free zones than not; but realistically the vast majority of those for which we have no information (indicated as ?) are probably NOT gun free zones.

If you isolate just the events at which 8 or more people were killed the data paints a different picture (pie chart on the bottom). In these incidents, 77.8% took place in a gun-free zone suggesting that gun free zones lead to a higher death rate vs active shooter events in general

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One of the final metrics we thought was important to consider is the potential tendency for armed citizens to injure or kill innocent people in their attempt to “save the day.” A common point in political discussions is to point out the lack of training of most armed citizens and the decrease in safety inherent in their presence during violent encounters.

As you can see below, however, at the 33 incidents at which Armed Citizens were present, there were zero situations at which the Armed Citizen injured or killed an innocent person. It never happened.

 

[2aguy]

I think his record was clear, and his record allowed him to purchase. Colorado has red flag laws, why’d he pass?

The police didn't use them........in Colorado, the police can implement the Red Flag law all on their own.....and they didn't, even with the felonies the They/Them shooter did...........

 

[August West]

No.....it is anti-gun fanatics like you who force normal gun owners to keep their guns in their cars instead of carrying them into stores, churches, schools...you did that, not normal gun owners.

Then, when the criminal who actually steals the gun is captured by police, you shitheads are releasing them with no cash bail so they can not only steal more guns, so they can go ahead and shoot people....

That is on you.

This is on me?

West Deer man accused of stealing car, gun inside it

A man from West Deer’s Russellton neighborhood was arrested last week for allegedly stealing a car and attempting to take a gun that was inside it. Harmar police arrested Brad Stanek, 39, after being tipped off by a local business owner Jan. 4 that his girlfriend’s car was stolen. The

triblive.com

 

[fncceo]

If you're arrested...you should be flagged irregardless of conviction.

Due process is so inconvenient, isn't it?