"A Well Regulated Militia" explained

[meaner gene]

You mean except for the American Revolution?

In fact, no Confederate soldier of any rank, nor civilian leader, was prosecuted for treason.

Actually many civilians were tried and convicted and sentenced to death by military tribunals.

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The Indianapolis military-commission “treason trials” of 1864 arose from the threat posed to the Union war effort and the survival of the United States by secret organizations that existed in… Read More »Civil War Treason Trials

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But the sentences were either commuted or overturned in `Ex parte Milligan, because civilians couldn't be tried in military courts, whe civil courts were functioning.

 

[meaner gene]

when has training ever been anything but peaceful???

You never went to boot camp?

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

Depends how you read it.

I suppose.

If you read it correctly following English syntax, it definitely doesn’t depend on anything - the right belongs to the people.

If you make up whatever the hell you want, then anything can mean anything I guess.

 

[progressive hunter]

You never went to boot camp?

I wasnt talking about boot camp,,,

 

[JGalt]

Actually many civilians were tried and convicted and sentenced to death by military tribunals.

You mean like they did to Jefferson Davis?

 

[meaner gene]

and what is that??

Tennessee Valley Authority - Wikipedia

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The Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA) is a federally owned electric utility corporation in the United States.
While owned by the federal government, ... operates similarly to a private for-profit company.

The Tennessee Valley Authority is governed by a nine member part-time Board of Directors, nominated by the President of the United States, and confirmed by the Senate

 

[progressive hunter]

Tennessee Valley Authority - Wikipedia

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The Tennessee Valley Authority (TVA) is a federally owned electric utility corporation in the United States.
While owned by the federal government, ... operates similarly to a private for-profit company.

The Tennessee Valley Authority is governed by a nine member part-time Board of Directors, nominated by the President of the United States, and confirmed by the Senate

key word being "OPERATES" similar to a private for profit company,,

 

[Flash]

Families and friends of those killed do not agree with you.

And when it happens to you and your loved ones......what then?

There have been at least 314 mass shootings so far in 2022. There have only been 186 days. - The Boston Globe

The rate of mass shootings so far this year is outpacing the number of days in the calendar year, according to an organization that tracks them.

www.bostonglobe.com

The FBI reports anything over two deaths as a "mass shooting" and most of them are gang or drug related shootings in the Democrat controlled big city shitholes. No gun control law will change that.

The real fact is that there are typically around 400 deaths a year cases by "long guns" of which AR-15s are a subset, along with shotguns and other rifles. With approximately 8K shootings a year that is a low percentage. For a country with 25 million AR-15s and a large number of other guns you stupid Moon Bats classify as "assault weapons" then that is not very many.

The great majority of gun crimes in this country is in the Democrat controlled big city shitholes by druggies, street thugs and gang bangers using cheap stolen or otherwise illegal hand guns.

I have 29 AR-15s now and one Class III M-16 and that they are no threat to anyone unless you desire to do my family harm. The threat is from the Black street thug walking down the streets of Democrat controlled South Chicago.

 

[meaner gene]

The unorganized militia does not have an age limit.

The unorganized militia is part of the militia

The militia has an age limit of 17-45 and able bodied.

10 U.S. Code § 246 - Militia: composition and classes

www.law.cornell.edu

(a)The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age ... and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard

 

[JGalt]

Families and friends of those killed do not agree with you.

And when it happens to you and your loved ones......what then?

There have been at least 314 mass shootings so far in 2022. There have only been 186 days. - The Boston Globe

The rate of mass shootings so far this year is outpacing the number of days in the calendar year, according to an organization that tracks them.

www.bostonglobe.com

See if you can pick out the fine, upstanding, Trump-supporting, Christian, law-abiding, gun-owning, right-wing conservative NRA members from these mugshots.

Take your time, bro.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

when shit really hits the fan there are no age limits,, you either fight or you die,,,

Agreed

 

[Flash]

This is a lie.

Democrats support Second Amendment jurisprudence; it’s conservatives who loathe that case law – Heller in particular, where Scalia reaffirmed the fact that the Second Amendment right is neither ‘unlimited’ nor ‘absolute.’

You are confused Moon Bat. Scalia didn't define what he said limited was but I will bet you a million dollars it would be a lot different than what you stupid Moon Bats would want it to be.

For instance, these filthy Democrat Moon Bats in DC thought they could limit Dick Heller from owning a firearm in his own home but Scalia told them to go fuck themselves. The Democrats in Chicago thought they could prevent Otis McDonald from having a concealed firearm but they were told to shove it where the sun don't shine.

Scalia affirmed that the right to keep and bear arms was an individual right. The recent NY case affirmed that very strict scrutiny must me used by the courts when determining gun control cases. That precludes a lot of infringements the filthy state and local governments have been getting away with. They even sent several cases back down to the lower courts to get right after the decision was published. Like California's magazine ban.

You are on the wrong side of this. You Moon Bats hate the Bill of Rights, don't you? Why? Is it because the Bill of Rights is standing in the way of you turds turning this country into a Socialist shithole?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The unorganized militia is part of the militia

The militia has an age limit of 17-45 and able bodied.

10 U.S. Code § 246 - Militia: composition and classes

www.law.cornell.edu

(a)The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age ... and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard

There is no age limit in the unorganized militia
No where in section 2 is age mention and if the unorganized militia is needed no one is going to give a flying fuck about age.

 

[meaner gene]

I suppose.

If you read it correctly following English syntax, it definitely doesn’t depend on anything - the right belongs to the people.

If you make up whatever the hell you want, then anything can mean anything I guess.

The problem is the constitution, like a contract with the people of america, has to be interpreted like a contract, or as the supreme law of the land, has to be read like a law.

And in each, it bound by legal means of interpretation.

Statutory interpretation - Wikipedia

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It is presumed that a statute will be interpreted so as to be internally consistent. A particular section of the statute shall not be divorced from the rest of the act. The ejusdem generis (or eiusdem generis, Latin for "of the same kind") rule applies to resolve the problem of giving meaning to groups of words where one of the words is ambiguous or inherently unclear. The rule results that where "general words follow enumerations of particular classes or persons or things, the general words shall be construed as applicable only to persons or things of the same general nature or kind as those enumerated

Expressio unius est exclusio alterius ("the express mention of one thing excludes all others" or "the expression of one is the exclusion of others")

Noscitur a sociis ("a word is known by the company it keeps")
When a word is ambiguous, its meaning may be determined by reference to the rest of the statute.

 

[progressive hunter]

The problem is the constitution, like a contract with the people of america, has to be interpreted like a contract, or as the supreme law of the land, has to be read like a law.

And in each, it bound by legal means of interpretation.

Statutory interpretation - Wikipedia

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It is presumed that a statute will be interpreted so as to be internally consistent. A particular section of the statute shall not be divorced from the rest of the act. The ejusdem generis (or eiusdem generis, Latin for "of the same kind") rule applies to resolve the problem of giving meaning to groups of words where one of the words is ambiguous or inherently unclear. The rule results that where "general words follow enumerations of particular classes or persons or things, the general words shall be construed as applicable only to persons or things of the same general nature or kind as those enumerated

Expressio unius est exclusio alterius ("the express mention of one thing excludes all others" or "the expression of one is the exclusion of others")

Noscitur a sociis ("a word is known by the company it keeps")
When a word is ambiguous, its meaning may be determined by reference to the rest of the statute.

why do these types of excuses always leave out the original intent backed up by the writings of the founders???

 

[meaner gene]

There is no age limit in the unorganized militia
No where in section 2 is age mention and if the unorganized militia is needed no one is going to give a flying fuck about age.

This is where logic comes in. The super-set is the militia, which has a statutory age limit of 17 to 45. The unorganized militia is a sub-set of the militia, which means all of it's members must be members of the militia, which places the same age limits on the sub-set, as the whole.

 

[progressive hunter]

This is where logic comes in. The super-set is the militia, which has a statutory age limit of 17 to 45. The unorganized militia is a sub-set of the militia, which means all of it's members must be members of the militia, which places the same age limits on the sub-set, as the whole.

where does it say that??

 

[45thPatriot]

You can’t touch our guns period

 

[meaner gene]

why do these types of excuses always leave out the original intent backed up by the writings of the founders???

Because the "original intent" often can't be found, nor be relied on by the actual statute passed.

Take for instance when Hillary Clinton voted to authorize use of force in Iraq, she specifically said, it was not permission to use force, but to give the president leverage.

“Hillary Clinton’s vote wasn’t for war, but simply to pressure Saddam Hussein to allow UN weapons inspectors back into Iraq.”

Is this the intent you would use?

 

[meaner gene]

where does it say that??

It was already posted to you. Where they defined the unorganized militia.

Now shut the fuck up liar
(2)
the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.
(Aug. 10, 1956, ch. 1041, 70A Stat. 14, § 311; Pub. L. 85–861, § 1(7), Sept. 2, 1958, 72 Stat. 1439; Pub. L. 103–160, div. A, title V, § 524(a), Nov. 30, 1993, 107 Stat. 1656; renumbered § 246, Pub. L. 114–328, div. A, title XII, § 1241(a)(2), Dec. 23, 2016, 130 Stat. 2497.)