"A Well Regulated Militia" explained

[Sixties Fan]

Do you agree or disagree? Why?

 

[Seymour Flops]

I disagree, because he is completely wrong.

But, more importantly, I am disgusted by the arrogance of some Lib-Dem talking head pseudo-journalist introducing a Democratic politician as if he were an expert and we are ignorant imbeciles to whom he must "explain" plain English.

Following the part about "A well regulated militia," that Lib-Dems think is so confusing to non-Lib-Dems, the 2nd amendment states: "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." I won't be arrogant and "explain" to anyone what that means.

The meaning is obvious, you can either agree with the 2nd amendment, or you can disagree with it and want it repealed, or simply ignored. We have the first amendment right to express beliefs, even including disagreement with the constitution.

 

[MarathonMike]

The fist pounder in the video is completely wrong, and here is why. The Second Amendment protects each STATES' authority to arm it's citizenry NOT the Federal government. This is consistent with the Founder's carefully designed checks and balances system to keep the FEDERAL government from gaining too much power. As I often mention, we are the United STATES of America not the United FEDERATION of America. The Constitution apportions most of the power of government to the STATES. Maybe this will help:

The Second Amendment, in order to protect the states' ability to preserve liberty and check federal tyranny, secured their authority to arm and organize their citizen militias without federal intrusion. Consequently, it prohibited all firearm regulations at the federal level, while leaving state regulations untouched.

 

[Fueri]

“The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms.”
― Samuel Adams

The End.

 

[Oddball]

Of course he's wrong......

 

[JGalt]

The guy's an idiot and knows nothing about the vernacular of the time the Constitution was written. "Well regulated" had nothing to do with being controlled or regulated by the government.

The following are taken from the Oxford English Dictionary, and bracket in time the writing of the 2nd amendment:

1709: "If a liberal Education has formed in us well-regulated Appetites and worthy Inclinations."

1714: "The practice of all well-regulated courts of justice in the world."

1812: "The equation of time ... is the adjustment of the difference of time as shown by a well-regulated clock and a true sun dial."

1848: "A remissness for which I am sure every well-regulated person will blame the Mayor."

1862: "It appeared to her well-regulated mind, like a clandestine proceeding."

1894: "The newspaper, a never wanting adjunct to every well-regulated American embryo city."

"The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it."

Meaning of the phrase "well-regulated"

 

[Lisa558]

Madison said that one of the two things needed for a tyrant to oppress was “a disarmed populace.” It is obvious what the 2nd amendment meant .

 

[AMart]

The militia is the people, the citizens, not a professional army. That same constitution mentions congressional oversight for maintaining and Army and Navy. It says the right of the people to keep and bear arms.....not the Army.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The thread is about people creating Militias on their own. Not about the right to bear arms as an individual.

 

[Rye Catcher]

The fist pounder in the video is completely wrong, and here is why. The Second Amendment protects each STATES' authority to arm it's citizenry NOT the Federal government. This is consistent with the Founder's carefully designed checks and balances system to keep the FEDERAL government from gaining too much power. As I often mention, we are the United STATES of America not the United FEDERATION of America. The Constitution apportions most of the power of government to the STATES. Maybe this will help:

The Second Amendment, in order to protect the states' ability to preserve liberty and check federal tyranny, secured their authority to arm and organize their citizen militias without federal intrusion. Consequently, it prohibited all firearm regulations at the federal level, while leaving state regulations untouched.

Read Art I, Sec 8 and Clauses 14, 15 & 16. Then get back to the readers and see how wrong you are.

 

[Oddball]

Read Art I, Sec 8 and Clauses 14, 15 & 16. Then get back to the readers and see how wrong you are.

Read Federalist 46 (no pictures for you to color in, sorry) and get back to us if you don't eat it first.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The thread is just an hour old and already it's full of rightwing demagoguery and lies.

 

[MarathonMike]

Read Art I, Sec 8 and Clauses 14, 15 & 16. Then get back to the readers and see how wrong you are.

The Founders were consistent in LIMITING the powers of Federal Government. There is no way they would give the Federal government full authority over guns. That is like saying the FIrst Amendment means "The people's right to say or write what the Federal government wants shall not be infringed".

 

[Sixties Fan]

The Founders were consistent in LIMITING the powers of Federal Government. There is no way they would give the Federal government full authority over guns. That is like saying the FIrst Amendment means "The people's right to say or write what the Federal government wants shall not be infringed".

The founders gave the Congress the right to create Militias when necessary.

People had guns since they arrived on the first on the American continent. Guns were never going to be taken away from non violent people.

There have been times when the government, or the States, had to step in about guns, which is why we saw an end to the Wild Wild West, where there were shootouts all the time between civilians.

Again, the video is about who has the right to create a Militia in the US, not about the government taking away the right to buy guns, which is not going to happen no matter what people's fears might be.

 

[marvin martian]

Do you agree or disagree? Why?

That dude is a nazi.

 

[Sixties Fan]

That dude is a nazi.

Telling the truth about what the constitution says about Militias makes one a Nazi?

I do not think you actually know what a Nazi is if you are using the word so freely.

 

[Flash]

Because of the judgement in the Heller case the question is moot. The Second Amendment is an individual right, not connected to membership to any organization. The McDonald and Bruen cases reaffirmed it.

It is settled law that the right to keep and bear arms is an individual right.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Because of the judgement in the Heller case the question is moot. The Second Amendment is an individual right, not connected to membership to any organization. The McDonald and Bruen cases reaffirmed it.

It is settled law that the right to keep and bear arms is an individual right.

Right to bear arms is not what the video talks about.

 

[Flash]

Right to bear arms is not what the video talks about.

The issue of "A well regulated militia" being any kind of a constraint on the individual right to keep and bear arms has been rendered moot by the Supremes.

That piece of shit in that filthy ass MSNBC video doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground about what he is talking about. Typical stupid uneducated low information Moon Bat talking out his ass.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The issue of "A well regulated militia" being any kind of a constraint on the individual right to keep and bear arms has been rendered moot by the Supremes.

That piece of shit in that filthy ass MSNBC video doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground about what he is talking about. Typical stupid uneducated low information Moon Bat talking out his ass.

What part of the video says that individuals do not have the right to bear arms? What minute and second?