A Welfare State : Government ***Buy*** The People

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    The Nature of the Welfare State

    by Sheldon Richman,

    Welfare-state programs have three central characteristics: plunder, deception, and obfuscation. Because those programs always effect a forcible transfer of wealth from one group of individuals to another, they involve what the great 19th-century economist Frederic Bastiat called "legalized plunder." The law sanctions stealing in these cases and is thereby changed from its original purpose, which was to protect people's rights and property. Bastiat's classic book The Law explains this point with the utmost clarity.


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    Most people don't like to have their wealth taken away. (People are funny that way.) So if the government is to get away with legalized plunder, the politicians must make people believe that something else is going on. That's where the deception comes into play.

    However, deception can be expected to work for only so long. People may stumble onto the facts and upset things. If the programs are to endure, the truth needs to be sufficiently obscured so that even if people try to take a close look, it won't be obvious what is happening. That's obfuscation. (Try to read any piece of legislation if you want to see how the people are kept from understanding what the government is doing.)


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    We do have a welfare state in this country and something has to be done about it.

    We have set up a system where unrestricted wealth flows from the middle class to the wealthy. 90% of the wealth is controlled by 10% of the population.

    If our available wealth were a pie cut into 10 pieces. One person would claim 9 pieces while the remaining 9 people fight over the remaining piece.

    The amazing part is that the wealthy somehow convince people like Contumacious that the problem with our system is the poor who are getting just a crumb out of the remaining piece of the pie
     
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    " a democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover they can vote themselves largesse out of the public treasury. From that moment on the majority, he said, always vote for the candidate promising the most benefits from the treasury with the result that democracy always collpases over a loose fiscal policy, always to be followed by a dictatorship."

    Prof. Alexander Frazer Tytler


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    Mr Fucktard, Sir

    Health and Human Services Budget

    879 BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBillions ......with a "B"


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    And there's a telling look into the mind (for lack of a better term) of the socialist.....They look at the entire economic system as one big pile of cash, and the eeeevvvvilll wealthy people either got to the pile first or cheated to get a bigger piece of it.

    Truth is that wealth is virtually infinite and all one has to do to get a piece of the action is get up off their ass and take some chances.
     
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    How idealistic..

    The wealthy benefit from the Golden Rule

    He who has the gold makes the rules

    They have been able to manipulate the system through tax cuts, tax exemptions, labor rules, relaxation of environmental and workplace protections.......all to ensure that they receive an ever larger slice of the pie.

    The super wealthy do not get rich by taking chances.......they get that way by making sure there is no chance involved
     
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    Don't knock it until you've tried it.

    Something on the order of 95+% of America's millionaires started with nothing.

    But I guess any excuses you need to use to rationalize your emotionally arrested feelings of victimization and resultant inaction are as good as the next, huh?
     
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    If the Pie was divided your way, there would be no pie to divide.
     

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