'A Veteran’s Death, the Nation’s Shame'

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    One of the largest tragedies of the bungling of the Afghanistan war (?) and the unnecessary invasion of Iraq is their impact on the American soldier and their families.

    "An American soldier dies every day and a half, on average, in Iraq or Afghanistan. Veterans kill themselves at a rate of one every 80 minutes. More than 6,500 veteran suicides are logged every year — more than the total number of soldiers killed in Afghanistan and Iraq combined since those wars began."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/15/opinion/sunday/kristof-a-veterans-death-the-nations-shame.html


    "All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting." George Orwell
     
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    Including your propaganda, screaming, lies, and hatred?

    You could easily have shed light on the tragedy of war deaths without interjecting your personal commentary.
     
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    obama INTENDS all those deaths. To him, the tragedy is there aren't more. The whole point of changing the rules of engagement was to increase American deaths.
     
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    Veterans depressed? No surprise since the senate majority leader tried to tell them "the war is lost" while they were in Iraq. Democrat rep. John Murtha is dead but shouldn't senator Kerry be held responsible for calling Marines murderers and Soldiers "terrorists"? Interesting that the NY Times would be interested in the subject since they printed a full page ad calling the US commander "betray-us".
     
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    What happened to all the republicans support for the war when Obama got elected?

    Seems like they were just supporting what the last president was doing not the war.
     
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    Obama didn't play dress up & pretend his was a real soldier like Bush. Extreme right wingers like FANTASY. The response to US deaths was "THEY VOLUNTEERED" remember?
     
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    The right wing slimebuckets dropped their support of the troops for political reasons. The troops should never support or trust the republicans again.
     
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    Obama claimed he would end both wars, instead he kept the Iraq war going until the date Bush established to end it and has kept us in Afghanistan.

    Why is the right upset with Afghanistan? Ohh I don't know, maybe because Obama declared he has no intention of winning there and then changed the rules of engagement to get more troops killed, Further he openly ordered no troops to actually look for the enemy.
     
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    I remember when the extreme right claimed "the US invaded GERMANY!". They forgot Hitler declared war on the US.................................
     
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    Interesting considering that during WW2 the Right were Democrats and the left were Republicans for the most part. Of Course FDR began to change that. You may need a new history book dear.
     

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