A Sane Discourse on the Lack of Reason On Both the Left and Right

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    http://www.classicalvalues.com/archives/001128.html

    In a way, it's sort of a decent argument for everyone to shut up and listen. The following is an excerpt, it's a long piece:

     
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    Interesting. Not sure I agree with his premise that the Right is drifting towards arresting everyone that looks at porn, but a thought-provoking article nonetheless.
     
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    That's the 'far right' think of some of the discussions on the religion forum. Think 700 Club. ~shudder~
     
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    I can't understand why people want to curtail liberties in such cases. I mean, I personally believe that looking at porn is a sin, and I avoid doing so, but I think it is a Christian's responsibility to steer individuals away from porn based on a personal decision, not based on possible jail time.

    I am no fan of the hard Religious Right. There's too much libertarian in me.
     
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    We represent the GOP, they represent something else. Just like MM does not really reflect democrats and they make a mistake in embracing him.
     
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    I liked the article. Very good read!
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    i have an issue with some of these things, but then again I have been saying a long time now that the rift is growing ever wider and we're practically being forced to choose sides, especially with the 'religious' or 'christian' push in everything we do nowadays.

    For instance, Jeff said "but I think it is a Christian's responsibility to steer individuals away from porn", but tell me, why is it anyones responsibility to steer anyone away from anything that isn't a criminal act? Why are we allowing the 'religious movement' dictate our lives and rewrite history as they see fit without calling them, and the politicians that are supported by them, on their actions, which is to gather more power over the people?
     
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    Duane, what I mean is that on a personal level, Christians have a moral responsibility to 1) stay away from pornography themselves, and 2) tell others about their beliefs in such a way that they will be persuaded to cling to Christian morals and thus shun pornography as well. I think this is a much better solution than outlawing porn as some on the far RR want to do.
     
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    I see what you mean, but now I have another question. How far do you go in your proselytization?
     
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    I'm glad you posted this KA.

    I've been dwelling on this issue for a while in my own mind. For simplification, we like to place people in one category or another. Liberal and Conservative serve as quick and convenient categories.

    However, just in the short time I've spent on the USMB, I quickly realized how many more shades of political leanings actually exists. Look at the differences b/t DK and Bully or between Bid D and gop_jeff. Although we categorize them as liberals and conservatives, respectively, in reality, there are vast gulfs of differences between how these posters respond to various political, social and religious issues.

    This lib vs. con battle works to the detriment of our Republic. It makes us feel as if we have only two sides to choose from. When, in reality, we are much more complex than that and we need political leaders and political discourse that reflects this complexity in voter thought.
     

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