A Fair Trade in my opinion.

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    Bolded. Citation?
     
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    That was waaay to nice :)

    There are many questions as to why he would not releases them but the most paramount reason as to why he should not is obvious: he gains nothing. That is the central problem with asking mitt to releases his tax returns. There is a zero gain no matter what is in there. If he paid 50 percent tax every year and made nothing, the left would tear him up for it and the right simply would not care. Most in the middle would not care either TBH. If he was wildly successful, same result. If he releases nothing then the left has nothing to throw at him. Simple as that.
    Completely incorrect. There is no obligation for him to do anything that Obama has done, period. You might continually ask for it but you will simply be ignored. At the end of the day, very few are going to care how many years of returns are in the open. The vast majority of that few would never be caught dead voting for Romney anyway. The left wants free ammo, they are not going to get it.
     
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    The tax returns won't tell you about his business experience. We already know about his business experience.

    The issue is transparency and character. But that also pertains to Obama's college transcripts. The question is "what is he hiding?" If we are asking that of one candidate, it should be applied to both candidates. Personally, I don't care about either, and if both choose not to release, that's fine by me. However, I think it's hypocrisy for one side to demand the other release while not releasing their own.
     
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    The same is being applied to both candidates.

    Romney hasn't released his own college records so he, and his supporters, don't have a leg to stand on asking for Obama's.

    Obama has released 12 years of returns so he, and his supporters, have all sorts of ground to stand on asking for Romney's.
     
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    The only records I am interested in are the ones that show the qualifications to be or continue to be president. Obama has a record of 3 1/2 years in the job. Are you happy with this record? If so, fine, vote for him.

    We know Romney histroy of success of turning companies and the Utah Olympic games around to be successful and his record as Governor. If you are satisfied he know more than Obama about economics and getting the right people on his teams, then vote for him.

    We have the records to determine the best leader. You be the judge for your own vote.
     
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    No president has ever been asked to release his college records. And no president has. Additionally..only one other President has been asked to release his birth certificate..and only one has..that's President Obama.

    This would have maybe made sense before Obama became President..but he has been President for several years..and has a record.

    And Obama has released a decade worth of taxes.

    This precedent of releasing tax records was set by Romney's own father.

    And it's a little more then curious as to why he isn't keeping with that precedent.

    The John McCain argument is specious since he was in congress prior to running and his tax records were well known.
     
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    Yes..and I am voting for him.

    He's done an outstanding job.
     
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    Since when did polarizing the country and seperating it into various groups become an outstanding job ?

    Obama is far to devisive & wild eyed in regards to this nation when he operates as he does or doesn't when it is needed, and this in regards to him remaining as it's President for another 4 years, so yes it really is that simple..

    I would have rather had another qualifying "black man" (if we just had to be historic in a choice found in the way that America wanted to go at this time), instead of having Barack Obama to be the first black President in the United States, where as in this other black man I speak of, he would have believed in America and the Free American cultures that exist throughout America (supportive of them without bias), instead of what this cat Barack Obama believed in and has done to the nation along business, race, gender and cultural lines while President.

    He's just to devisive, and America doesn't have the time nor the money to play this game anymore. We need management for all in America as far as the business sector goes, and not wild eyed ideologies and ventures that end up being failures over the long haul, and worse with the use of our money that we no longer have out here, and yes again it is just that simple.

    Barack started off maybe good or Ok, with all the rehtoric and promises we thought he would keep (transparency being one of the biggest ones), but everything became so politically charged that nothing gets done, because it became to polarizing with every finger pointing that he has made ever since.

    The tough love approach was not the way to come out swinging at a nation as a whole, but instead he should have used the nations majority to have his back (like he once asked it to), and then should have had their back as well, but then he left them in the dust on many issues and plans that were supposed to represent all Americans as Americans along with the nation the same, and not just to represent specific groups for specific reasons, and then hate the rest for specific reasons. Now he will pay at the ballot box for his failures, as the American people will speak again, and this time for the reasons of their wallets and not for their simple history making causes instead.

    We will be in uncharted waters again, but at least we will know from where it is that we have come from, and hopefully this will help us to understand where it is that we are once again going. The games are over, it's go time in America. Thank you Barack for your time as served (history also served), but we need to get our heads more clear, and move beyond the devisiveness and polarization we have had, in order to hopefully free up capital in the proper ways again, and not in the ways that it was attempting to be done through the force of by taxes and more taxes and then more taxes. You cannot afront wealthy tyrants in business, without those tyrants rolling it all back down upon the little people, and then to cause a ((lock up the capital)) strike by those tyrants against us all, when the use of the tax was the idea for doing so against them, where as you could only use proper regulatory actions and laws as agreed upon by the people in support of, in order to adress a situation that is wrong in the nation, but using "taxes" to do it, and this when those taxes will just be cast down upon those who are already dead in the water out here, was the wrong way to go as found in idea of or in the speak there of over such a short period of time as it were with these dems and their attempt at it all in this way.
     
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