75,000 US veterans face homelessness

[Zona]

Of course thousands of returning VETS are having trouble finding employment that pays nearly as well as their cushy military salaries and benefits.

The civilian world just doesn't pay all that well by comparison to what the military pays.

What is a Grunt actually worth to most businesses?

Zip!

Cushy military salaries? Someone doing a couple of tours and getting out at 4 years is probably an E-5, max. You call that "cushy" money? As far as those "cushy" benefits.....they fucking EARNED them. Doncha think? Which benny was cushy by the way, them getting medical treatment for injuries they got in war? Perhaps education? Housing for their families? What?

Not all homeless vets are "grunts"either asshole. You would know this if you volunteered some time at a homeless shelter. I used to do it all the time in san diego when I was in and I do it now that I am retired.

 

[High_Gravity]

Of course thousands of returning VETS are having trouble finding employment that pays nearly as well as their cushy military salaries and benefits.

The civilian world just doesn't pay all that well by comparison to what the military pays.

What is a Grunt actually worth to most businesses?

Zip!

Cushy military salaries? Someone doing a couple of tours and getting out at 4 years is probably an E-5, max. You call that "cushy" money? As far as those "cushy" benefits.....they fucking EARNED them. Doncha think? Which benny was cushy by the way, them getting medical treatment for injuries they got in war? Perhaps education? Housing for their families? What?

Not all homeless vets are "grunts"either asshole. You would know this if you volunteered some time at a homeless shelter. I used to do it all the time in san diego when I was in and I do it now that I am retired.

I'm telling you peoples ignorance about our Service men and women astounds me, we are seeing a real disconnect between the civilian sector and the Military and I fear its only going to get even worse, plus the sad thing is I have a feeling the guy that made this post is probably in a management position in charge of hiring and firing.

 

[Douger]

When the dog quits hunting you throw it away or put it to sleep. Simple.
Fido. You were a good boy but I can't feed you any more.

 

[High_Gravity]

When the dog quits hunting you throw it away or put it to sleep. Simple.
Fido. You were a good boy but I can't feed you any more.

Go fuck yourself for this one Douger.

 

[Trajan]

heres is what I found-

The National Center on Homelessness Among Veterans - Homeless Veterans

this is what you should have linked to

http://www.hudhre.info/documents/2009AHARVeteransReport.pdf

its inside a few links from the VA..PLEASE read the pdf....( it does support your no. as of 2009 75,609..BUT please read the report).

From your link..

According to the 2008 Annual Homeless Assessment Report to Congress, more than 135,000 adults who served in the armed forces were homeless in a shelter at some point between October 2007 and September 2008, the majority residing in emergency rather than transitional shelters.

I know exactly what the link I posted says.....did you read the pdf?

here ya go...

Reading Comprehension Connection: Home

 

[SFC Ollie]

Of course thousands of returning VETS are having trouble finding employment that pays nearly as well as their cushy military salaries and benefits.

The civilian world just doesn't pay all that well by comparison to what the military pays.

What is a Grunt actually worth to most businesses?

Zip!

Cushy? Are you out of your fucking mind?

 

[High_Gravity]

Of course thousands of returning VETS are having trouble finding employment that pays nearly as well as their cushy military salaries and benefits.

The civilian world just doesn't pay all that well by comparison to what the military pays.

What is a Grunt actually worth to most businesses?

Zip!

Cushy? Are you out of your fucking mind?

Alot of people think this way Ollie, alot of people in management positions think the Military pays really well like the private contractors overseas like Dynocorp and Blackwater, and they think that the Military are all just infantry soldiers and cold blooded killers, people in MANAGEMENT positions think this, not stupid college kids or unemployed bums.

 

[pinqy]

The unemployment rate among American young veterans stood at nearly 21 percent last year according to the US Labor Department.

That unemployment rate is a little misleading. Here are the . The 20% rate (actrually 20.9%) refers to veterans age 18-24. There were only 298,000, and 79,000 were not in the labor force (not working or trying to work...full time students, disabled, married with earning spouse etc). So that leaves a labor force of 219,000 of which 46,000 were unemployed. 20% sounds frightening, but that's only 46,000 people. The non-veteran UE rate for 18-24 year olds was 17.3%. Overall, the UE rate for all veterans was 8.7% compared to 9.4% for all non-veterans.

Note that veteran does not necessarilly mean "war veteran" and it includes any time at all on active duty. So some kid kicked out for failure to adapt is still counted as a veteran for these purposes.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Of course thousands of returning VETS are having trouble finding employment that pays nearly as well as their cushy military salaries and benefits.

The civilian world just doesn't pay all that well by comparison to what the military pays.

What is a Grunt actually worth to most businesses?

Zip!

Cushy? Are you out of your fucking mind?

Alot of people think this way Ollie, alot of people in management positions think the Military pays really well like the private contractors overseas like Dynocorp and Blackwater, and they think that the Military are all just infantry soldiers and cold blooded killers, people in MANAGEMENT positions think this, not stupid college kids or unemployed bums.

I know, I wrote a letter to the editor of the local paper after an article they ran said that Military retirees got free healthcare and made $50,000 a year on their pension. I was actually surprised when they printed it.

 

[High_Gravity]

Cushy? Are you out of your fucking mind?

Alot of people think this way Ollie, alot of people in management positions think the Military pays really well like the private contractors overseas like Dynocorp and Blackwater, and they think that the Military are all just infantry soldiers and cold blooded killers, people in MANAGEMENT positions think this, not stupid college kids or unemployed bums.

I know, I wrote a letter to the editor of the local paper after an article they ran said that Military retirees got free healthcare and made $50,000 a year on their pension. I was actually surprised when they printed it.

There is a serious disconnect between civilians and the Military and its growing by the day, our Military really isn't all that big and not alot people choose to serve anymore so they have no idea what Military life is like, and they go by what they see on war movies and video games like Medal of Honor, some of the shit people think these days is actually quite alarming.

 

[Patrick2]

The country should take care of its vets, no ifs.

But I would like to see a difference of benefits between those who were combat soldiers, and those who just sat at a desk or something. Being a member of the 108th Emergency Shoe Repair Brigade just doesn't cut it.

 

[Lovebears65]

Of course thousands of returning VETS are having trouble finding employment that pays nearly as well as their cushy military salaries and benefits.

The civilian world just doesn't pay all that well by comparison to what the military pays.

What is a Grunt actually worth to most businesses?

Zip!

are you freaking kidding me.. You know most people under E6( it only gets to E9) qualify for food stamps for a family of 4..

 

[SFC Ollie]

The country should take care of its vets, no ifs.

But I would like to see a difference of benefits between those who were combat soldiers, and those who just sat at a desk or something. Being a member of the 108th Emergency Shoe Repair Brigade just doesn't cut it.

Wrong fucking answer. Anyone in uniform today can come under fire. Ask Private First Class Jessica Lynch how safe she was driving a truck. Or talk to the Marines who were sitting in their barracks in Beirut. You wear the uniform you have my respect, and I don't give a shit if you were an underwater mess kit repairman. A soldier is a soldier.

 

[Big Black Dog]

I am 100% pro-veteran having served for 20 years in the military; however, there are two sides to this "hire the veteran" coin. As SFC Ollie has posted, there are many excellent reasons that an employer should hire a veteran - and I applaud the companies that do that BUT just being a veteran should not automatically give you a place in line in the employment world. As with all employment opportunities, often a person needs to start at the bottom and work his way up the ladder of success. A quality veteran with a good work ethic will outshine others and quickly advance as a general rule. I've seen this happen to both myself and many others. The sad side of the coin is that I have seen many veterans unwilling to begin a job in the trenches and work his way out and expects placement above others with nothing to offer the employer except a "veteran's status" as a reason for employment. So, as I have stated, I am fully supportive of "hiring a vet", that same vet needs to do his part too and not expect employment to be simply given because he is a veteran.

 

[midcan5]

Veterans like all Americans are facing a changing work environment, a changing America, it seems the American worker since Reagan - hate to blame him all the time but he started it or helped sanction it - simply don't have the opportunity even my generation had. Today corporations manage a message that makes taxes, unions, and government the foe and the lemmings vote in the corporate singers. Witness the tea party stooges. Until America starts supporting it own this will continue till .... who knows where it ends, all empires eventually collapse and who knows whither our plutocracy goes....

Add Obama to this list if he too fails the American worker and veteran. "Not only does there seem to be widespread social fragmentation and disillusionment with democracy in the United States, but the possibility of reversing this sense of alienation appears to many of us to be already lost. Any democratic president who wants to institute the desperately needed reforms in health, welfare and the environment faces one of two options. He can stick by his reform program and suffer a loss of public confidence through orchestrated campaigns to publicly portray him as 'too liberal' and ineffectual (the Carter image) or too indecisive or sexually indiscreet (the Clinton image). Alternatively, a reforming democratic president can move further to the Right, forget his promises and become part of the propaganda campaign. Given the history of democratic propaganda in the United States, some of us doubt that another Roosevelt or New Deal is possible. The political system is now so attuned to business interests that this kind of reformer could no longer institute the substantial health, welfare, education, environmental and employment reforms the country needs." Andrew Lohrey, Introduction, Alex Carey "Taking the Risk Out of Democracy"

 

[SFC Ollie]

I am 100% pro-veteran having served for 20 years in the military; however, there are two sides to this "hire the veteran" coin. As SFC Ollie has posted, there are many excellent reasons that an employer should hire a veteran - and I applaud the companies that do that BUT just being a veteran should not automatically give you a place in line in the employment world. As with all employment opportunities, often a person needs to start at the bottom and work his way up the ladder of success. A quality veteran with a good work ethic will outshine others and quickly advance as a general rule. I've seen this happen to both myself and many others. The sad side of the coin is that I have seen many veterans unwilling to begin a job in the trenches and work his way out and expects placement above others with nothing to offer the employer except a "veteran's status" as a reason for employment. So, as I have stated, I am fully supportive of "hiring a vet", that same vet needs to do his part too and not expect employment to be simply given because he is a veteran.

So true. I started with one company as a commissioned part time estimator 6 months later I was the general manager. Leadership shines..............

 

[Grace]

I wasn't in the service. But I may wind up homeless. Anyone got a shed I can live in with my 3 dogs and 1 cat, 1 pc, and my tv?

 

[SFC Ollie]

I wasn't in the service. But I may wind up homeless. Anyone got a shed I can live in with my 3 dogs and 1 cat, 1 pc, and my tv?

Sorry Grace, hardfast rule, No Cats..... Colonel would be too happy to have them for Dinner.......

 

[Patrick2]

The country should take care of its vets, no ifs.

But I would like to see a difference of benefits between those who were combat soldiers, and those who just sat at a desk or something. Being a member of the 108th Emergency Shoe Repair Brigade just doesn't cut it.

Wrong fucking answer. Anyone in uniform today can come under fire. Ask Private First Class Jessica Lynch how safe she was driving a truck. Or talk to the Marines who were sitting in their barracks in Beirut. You wear the uniform you have my respect, and I don't give a shit if you were an underwater mess kit repairman. A soldier is a soldier.

Jessica Lynch was in a COMBAT ZONE. That's not the same as someone sitting out the war behind a desk in the US, where the biggest danger is from paper cuts.

 

[Patrick2]

Veterans like all Americans are facing a changing work environment, a changing America, it seems the American worker since Reagan - hate to blame him all the time but he started it or helped sanction it - simply don't have the opportunity even my generation had. Today corporations manage a message that makes taxes, unions, and government the foe and the lemmings vote in the corporate singers. Witness the tea party stooges. Until America starts supporting it own this will continue till .... who knows where it ends, all empires eventually collapse and who knows whither our plutocracy goes....

A little cold water in your entitlement-obsessed face, sport.

Back in the fifties, sixties, maybe seventies - the US did an absolute majority of the world's manufacturing. After WWII, europe and japan were in ruins. India and china were still hobbling themselves with socialism. In that environment, workers in the US could be paid huge wages and benefits for unskilled or low skilled work.

That world , a very rare fluke period in world history, is GONE. All those places are strong competitors of the US. It doesn't have anything to do with Reagan, and all you libs doing circle jerks with your anti-corporate blather isn't going to bring it back.