Consumers creates jobs

[LilOlLady]

CONSUMERS CREATES JOBS

Other than government. Federal and state government. How many government agencies, services and programs and how many do they employ? Without government jobs we would be just another third world country
.http://www.usa.gov/Agencies/Federal/All ... ndex.shtml

The total number of local government employees in the United States as of 2002 is 13.2 million. There are 10.15 million full-time and 3.13 million part-time
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_emp ... ted_States
Maybe the really big spenders are State government and not federal government?

The biggest job killer was corporations that took jobs overseas in search of cheap labor and put millions of consumers out of jobs with no purchasing power. Business that were left here were not selling because unemployed consumers do not purchase products and services. Bring back those jobs and put consumers back to work and they will purchase products and services creating tax revenue and business that sell more will hire more to sell more and the circle of a growing economy and more jobs, etc.

Cutting entitlement programs is a jobs killer, and economy buster. Dead beat presidents Bush, inheriting the biggest surplus in history and creating the biggest deficit in history, spending money we did not have on two wars, giving billions to foreign countries for their friendship, cutting taxes to the wealthy, supporting illegal immigration of poverty was the ultimate job killer and economy buster.

If Dead Beat Bush had been stopped, we would not be dealing with this mess today. But the right wing idiots just stood by and looked the other way. Now they expect Obama to fix the mess overnight what Dead Beat Bush took 8 years to break. It may take decades to do that.

Until those jobs return and put consumers back to work and tax cuts for the wealthy expire, there is no end in sight for our failing economy. Cannot do it with cuts in government spending and cutting entitlement programs which creates more poverty and more government spending. Because of cut in entitlements we are seeing record number of people applying for food stamps, etc.

 

[FuelRod]

Who do you think consumes the most?

 

[LilOlLady]

World War II and recovery
A female factory worker in 1942, Fort Worth, Texas. Women entered the workforce as men were drafted into the armed forces.The common view among economic historians is that the Great Depression ended with the advent of World War II. Many economists believe that government spending on the war caused or at least accelerated recovery from the Great Depression. However, some consider that it did not play a very large role in the recovery, although it did help in reducing unemployment.[9][50][51]

The massive rearmament policies leading up to World War II helped stimulate the economies of Europe in 1937–39. By 1937, unemployment in Britain had fallen to 1.5 million. The mobilization of manpower following the outbreak of war in 1939 finally ended unemployment.[52]

America's entry into the war in 1941 finally eliminated the last effects from the Great Depression and brought the unemployment rate down below 10%.[53] In the U.S., massive war spending doubled economic growth rates, either masking the effects of the Depression or essentially ending the Depression. Businessmen ignored the mounting national debt and heavy new taxes, redoubling their efforts for greater output to take advantage of generous government contracts.

Great Depression - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[LilOlLady]

What Ended the Great Depression of 1929?:

In 1932, Franklin Delano Roosevelt was elected President based on his promises to create Federal Government programs to end the Great Depression. Within 100 days the “New Deal” was signed into law. This created 42 new agencies designed to create jobs, allow unionization, and provide unemployment insurance. Many of these programs, such as Social Security, the SEC (Securities and Exchange Commission), and FDIC (Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation) are still here today, helping to safeguard the economy.
However, the extent of the Great Depression was so great that government programs alone could not end it. Unemployment remained in the double-digits until 1941, when the U.S. entry into World War II created defense-related jobs.
The Great Depression of 1929 - Causes of the Great Depression of 1929 - Unemployment During the Great Depression

 

[KissMy]

Obama's Director of the White House National Economic Council & Clinton's Secretary of the Treasury Lawrence Summers at 22:00 in video

"If Hitler had not come along, Franklin Roosevelt would have left office in the beginning of 1941 with an unemployment rate in excess of 15% and an economic recovery strategy that had basically failed."

We had a tax rate of over 90% back then so government spending was the economy & it sucked until we started selling weapons to foreigners. We sold weapons to other countries in WWII. That is what brought us out of the depression. Not our own government spending.

There are 22.5 million government employees who make double the private sector wage. They all must go away or take a 50% pay cut. The tax & debt burden they create for this country is costing the rest of us jobs. The worst thing that happened during the Bush presidency was government pay & benefits escalated far faster than the private sector due to a law Bill Clinton signed at the end of his presidency. Bush also allowed the size of government to explode.

This country is doomed unless we get rid of the government employees & their defined benefit pensions. No one gets defined benefits except government employees. Notice how I always call the leaches government employees & not workers. They are the least productive segment of our society, but the best paid.

 

[KissMy]

WSJ: We've Become a Nation of Takers, Not Makers

If you want to understand better why so many states—from New York to Wisconsin to California—are teetering on the brink of bankruptcy, consider this depressing statistic: Today in America there are nearly twice as many people working for the government (22.5 million) than in all of manufacturing (11.5 million). This is an almost exact reversal of the situation in 1960, when there were 15 million workers in manufacturing and 8.7 million collecting a paycheck from the government.

It gets worse. More Americans work for the government than work in construction, farming, fishing, forestry, manufacturing, mining and utilities combined. We have moved decisively from a nation of makers to a nation of takers. Nearly half of the $2.2 trillion cost of state and local governments is the $1 trillion-a-year tab for pay and benefits of state and local employees. Is it any wonder that so many states and cities cannot pay their bills?...

Don't expect a reversal of this trend anytime soon. "Surveys of college graduates are finding that more and more of our top minds want to work for the government"...

The employment trends described here are explained in part by hugely beneficial productivity improvements in such traditional industries as farming, manufacturing, financial services and telecommunications. These produce far more output per worker than in the past. The typical farmer, for example, is today at least three times more productive than in 1950.

Where are the productivity gains in government? Consider a core function of state and local governments: schools. Over the period 1970-2005, school spending per pupil, adjusted for inflation, doubled, while standardized achievement test scores were flat. Over roughly that same time period, public-school employment doubled per student, according to a study by researchers at the University of Washington. That is what economists call negative productivity.

But education is an industry where we measure performance backwards: We gauge school performance not by outputs, but by inputs. If quality falls, we say we didn't pay teachers enough or we need smaller class sizes or newer schools. If education had undergone the same productivity revolution that manufacturing has, we would have half as many educators, smaller school budgets, and higher graduation rates and test scores.

The same is true of almost all other government services. Mass transit spends more and more every year and yet a much smaller share of Americans use trains and buses today than in past decades. One way that private companies spur productivity is by firing underperforming employees and rewarding excellence. In government employment, tenure for teachers and near lifetime employment for other civil servants shields workers from this basic system of reward and punishment. It is a system that breeds mediocrity, which is what we've gotten.

Most reasonable steps to restrain public-sector employment costs are smothered by the unions. Study after study has shown that states and cities could shave 20% to 40% off the cost of many services—fire fighting, public transportation, garbage collection, administrative functions, even prison operations—through competitive contracting to private providers. But unions have blocked many of those efforts. Public employees maintain that they are underpaid relative to equally qualified private-sector workers, yet they are deathly afraid of competitive bidding for government services.