6th Circuit Federal Appeals Court Gives Thumb's Up to States' Choice on Gay Marriage

Should the definition of marriage be up to the states?

  • Yes

    Votes: 11 57.9%
  • No

    Votes: 8 42.1%

  • Total voters
    19
Because government power is derived from the barrel of a gun, not the will of the people of, Chairman Mao?
When people get to vote on the rights of others pretty soon nobody has any. Why do you think the Founders hated Democracy, was it just for fun?
Thats why the Supreme Court needs to affirm that voters in states have the right to decide these issues.
You want gay marriage? Fine, get it passed legislatively. Dont rely on activist judges to do the work for you.
The voters don't have the right, obviously, and the court has let that stand. Sorry.
The SCOTUS has an obligation when the lower Federal Courts disagree on an issue.............which is currently happening...........

This decision HAS TO BE MADE BY SCOTUS.................whether they like it our not..............and it is a Catch 22 issue as it will FORCE A DECISION ON STATE'S RIGHTS......................and they know this.
They don't have to decide this, but they most likely will. They could let it stand as it is if they like. They are under no obligation either way.
Yes they do have an obligation to decide this............

Because there are conflicting findings in the lower Federal Courts.
 
I didn't say it was..............I proposed making it so.............and end this discussion once and for all.............Let the people decide via Amending the Constitution................If the people agree that we should not recognize Gay Marriage then the argument would be over once and for all.

The people have the right to decide what they believe should be acceptable in a society..............and since it takes a lot of numbers to pass an amendment it would be extremely difficult to pass.................but if it passed then it's over.
The People don't have the right, and they have already decided.
Bullshit and bullshit.
10th A disagrees with you.
Most people decided they didnt want this crap.
Learn to do math.
Quit whining.
You're getting your ass soundly beaten here.
Beaten by you little morons? Not a chance Sweetcheeks.
In your mind.
 
Bottom line most in America don't agree in principle with gay marriage whether you like it or not..
Bottom line is you need to check your numbers again. Your side has lost on that just as it has in court, for the most part until now.
Check the numbers.............LOL

In the Liberal State of California they passed that marriage to be between a man and a woman..............The Courts rejected it..................

Now a court has stated that the states DO HAVE THE RIGHT to make this judgement................FORCING A SCOTUS ACTION...........

And the will of the people in California had stated that they openly rejected same sex marriage..............In one of the most Liberal States in this country..............

If this was placed as an Amendment to the Constitution in America the Gay movement would lose.
Your opinion is noted, but the actual math says otherwise.
No math has been put forward.............What is this imaginary math you keep talking about..........I haven't seen a single math equation put forward on this thread............Perhaps the fuzzy math is in your head.
 
The People don't have the right to decide what THIS NATION ACCEPTS OR REJECTS.
That depends very much on what is being decided. It's a not a blanket policy.
That applies to a very narrow band of issues. This isnt one of them.
Oh but it is, which is why gay marriage is now legal in most of the country. Soon enough, all of the country.
The 6th Circuit seems to disagree.
 
When people get to vote on the rights of others pretty soon nobody has any. Why do you think the Founders hated Democracy, was it just for fun?
Thats why the Supreme Court needs to affirm that voters in states have the right to decide these issues.
You want gay marriage? Fine, get it passed legislatively. Dont rely on activist judges to do the work for you.
The voters don't have the right, obviously, and the court has let that stand. Sorry.
The SCOTUS has an obligation when the lower Federal Courts disagree on an issue.............which is currently happening...........

This decision HAS TO BE MADE BY SCOTUS.................whether they like it our not..............and it is a Catch 22 issue as it will FORCE A DECISION ON STATE'S RIGHTS......................and they know this.
They don't have to decide this, but they most likely will. They could let it stand as it is if they like. They are under no obligation either way.
Yes they do have an obligation to decide this............

Because there are conflicting findings in the lower Federal Courts.
No, the court can do as it damn well pleases, including letting this work itself out. Eventually this is a Loving, but not quite yet.
 
Bottom line most in America don't agree in principle with gay marriage whether you like it or not..
Bottom line is you need to check your numbers again. Your side has lost on that just as it has in court, for the most part until now.
Check the numbers.............LOL

In the Liberal State of California they passed that marriage to be between a man and a woman..............The Courts rejected it..................

Now a court has stated that the states DO HAVE THE RIGHT to make this judgement................FORCING A SCOTUS ACTION...........

And the will of the people in California had stated that they openly rejected same sex marriage..............In one of the most Liberal States in this country..............

If this was placed as an Amendment to the Constitution in America the Gay movement would lose.
Your opinion is noted, but the actual math says otherwise.
No math has been put forward.............What is this imaginary math you keep talking about..........I haven't seen a single math equation put forward on this thread............Perhaps the fuzzy math is in your head.
He thinks that because gay activist judges have decided this issue against the will of the people then that makes a majority. He's channeling his inner Mao.
 
Bottom line most in America don't agree in principle with gay marriage whether you like it or not..
Bottom line is you need to check your numbers again. Your side has lost on that just as it has in court, for the most part until now.
Check the numbers.............LOL

In the Liberal State of California they passed that marriage to be between a man and a woman..............The Courts rejected it..................

Now a court has stated that the states DO HAVE THE RIGHT to make this judgement................FORCING A SCOTUS ACTION...........

And the will of the people in California had stated that they openly rejected same sex marriage..............In one of the most Liberal States in this country..............

If this was placed as an Amendment to the Constitution in America the Gay movement would lose.
Your opinion is noted, but the actual math says otherwise.
No math has been put forward.............What is this imaginary math you keep talking about..........I haven't seen a single math equation put forward on this thread............Perhaps the fuzzy math is in your head.
The math is on you. Go read the polls. I already have.
 
Bottom line most in America don't agree in principle with gay marriage whether you like it or not..
Bottom line is you need to check your numbers again. Your side has lost on that just as it has in court, for the most part until now.
Check the numbers.............LOL

In the Liberal State of California they passed that marriage to be between a man and a woman..............The Courts rejected it..................

Now a court has stated that the states DO HAVE THE RIGHT to make this judgement................FORCING A SCOTUS ACTION...........

And the will of the people in California had stated that they openly rejected same sex marriage..............In one of the most Liberal States in this country..............

If this was placed as an Amendment to the Constitution in America the Gay movement would lose.
Your opinion is noted, but the actual math says otherwise.
No math has been put forward.............What is this imaginary math you keep talking about..........I haven't seen a single math equation put forward on this thread............Perhaps the fuzzy math is in your head.
He thinks that because gay activist judges have decided this issue against the will of the people then that makes a majority. He's channeling his inner Mao.
No, I read the polls, as should you.
 
Thats why the Supreme Court needs to affirm that voters in states have the right to decide these issues.
You want gay marriage? Fine, get it passed legislatively. Dont rely on activist judges to do the work for you.
The voters don't have the right, obviously, and the court has let that stand. Sorry.
The SCOTUS has an obligation when the lower Federal Courts disagree on an issue.............which is currently happening...........

This decision HAS TO BE MADE BY SCOTUS.................whether they like it our not..............and it is a Catch 22 issue as it will FORCE A DECISION ON STATE'S RIGHTS......................and they know this.
They don't have to decide this, but they most likely will. They could let it stand as it is if they like. They are under no obligation either way.
Yes they do have an obligation to decide this............

Because there are conflicting findings in the lower Federal Courts.
No, the court can do as it damn well pleases, including letting this work itself out. Eventually this is a Loving, but not quite yet.
Which part of conflicting decisions from the lower courts can you figure out.

They have lower courts giving different conclusions on the same issue................meaning they have got to decide this.
 
The People don't have the right to decide what THIS NATION ACCEPTS OR REJECTS.
That depends very much on what is being decided. It's a not a blanket policy.
That applies to a very narrow band of issues. This isnt one of them.
Oh but it is, which is why gay marriage is now legal in most of the country. Soon enough, all of the country.
The 6th Circuit seems to disagree.
Yes, I noticed that, but they are wrong and that will be fixed soon enough.
 
The voters don't have the right, obviously, and the court has let that stand. Sorry.
The SCOTUS has an obligation when the lower Federal Courts disagree on an issue.............which is currently happening...........

This decision HAS TO BE MADE BY SCOTUS.................whether they like it our not..............and it is a Catch 22 issue as it will FORCE A DECISION ON STATE'S RIGHTS......................and they know this.
They don't have to decide this, but they most likely will. They could let it stand as it is if they like. They are under no obligation either way.
Yes they do have an obligation to decide this............

Because there are conflicting findings in the lower Federal Courts.
No, the court can do as it damn well pleases, including letting this work itself out. Eventually this is a Loving, but not quite yet.
Which part of conflicting decisions from the lower courts can you figure out.

They have lower courts giving different conclusions on the same issue................meaning they have got to decide this.
No, they do not have to do anything, so stop saying it.
 
Bottom line most in America don't agree in principle with gay marriage whether you like it or not..
Bottom line is you need to check your numbers again. Your side has lost on that just as it has in court, for the most part until now.
Check the numbers.............LOL

In the Liberal State of California they passed that marriage to be between a man and a woman..............The Courts rejected it..................

Now a court has stated that the states DO HAVE THE RIGHT to make this judgement................FORCING A SCOTUS ACTION...........

And the will of the people in California had stated that they openly rejected same sex marriage..............In one of the most Liberal States in this country..............

If this was placed as an Amendment to the Constitution in America the Gay movement would lose.
Your opinion is noted, but the actual math says otherwise.
No math has been put forward.............What is this imaginary math you keep talking about..........I haven't seen a single math equation put forward on this thread............Perhaps the fuzzy math is in your head.
The math is on you. Go read the polls. I already have.
The only polls that count are the actual referenda. And gay marriage has largely been a loser.
 
Bottom line most in America don't agree in principle with gay marriage whether you like it or not..
Bottom line is you need to check your numbers again. Your side has lost on that just as it has in court, for the most part until now.
Check the numbers.............LOL

In the Liberal State of California they passed that marriage to be between a man and a woman..............The Courts rejected it..................

Now a court has stated that the states DO HAVE THE RIGHT to make this judgement................FORCING A SCOTUS ACTION...........

And the will of the people in California had stated that they openly rejected same sex marriage..............In one of the most Liberal States in this country..............

If this was placed as an Amendment to the Constitution in America the Gay movement would lose.
Your opinion is noted, but the actual math says otherwise.
No math has been put forward.............What is this imaginary math you keep talking about..........I haven't seen a single math equation put forward on this thread............Perhaps the fuzzy math is in your head.
The math is on you. Go read the polls. I already have.
I din't bring in math equations to this discussion...............You did..............and the burden of proof is on you to prove math equations...........

Yet I'm supposed to do research to legitimize your side of the equation to challenge numbers you never posted.

Don't think so.
 
Bottom line is you need to check your numbers again. Your side has lost on that just as it has in court, for the most part until now.
Check the numbers.............LOL

In the Liberal State of California they passed that marriage to be between a man and a woman..............The Courts rejected it..................

Now a court has stated that the states DO HAVE THE RIGHT to make this judgement................FORCING A SCOTUS ACTION...........

And the will of the people in California had stated that they openly rejected same sex marriage..............In one of the most Liberal States in this country..............

If this was placed as an Amendment to the Constitution in America the Gay movement would lose.
Your opinion is noted, but the actual math says otherwise.
No math has been put forward.............What is this imaginary math you keep talking about..........I haven't seen a single math equation put forward on this thread............Perhaps the fuzzy math is in your head.
The math is on you. Go read the polls. I already have.
The only polls that count are the actual referenda. And gay marriage has largely been a loser.
Not anymore. If that's your criteria then you've lost in all recent cases.
 
Bottom line is you need to check your numbers again. Your side has lost on that just as it has in court, for the most part until now.
Check the numbers.............LOL

In the Liberal State of California they passed that marriage to be between a man and a woman..............The Courts rejected it..................

Now a court has stated that the states DO HAVE THE RIGHT to make this judgement................FORCING A SCOTUS ACTION...........

And the will of the people in California had stated that they openly rejected same sex marriage..............In one of the most Liberal States in this country..............

If this was placed as an Amendment to the Constitution in America the Gay movement would lose.
Your opinion is noted, but the actual math says otherwise.
No math has been put forward.............What is this imaginary math you keep talking about..........I haven't seen a single math equation put forward on this thread............Perhaps the fuzzy math is in your head.
The math is on you. Go read the polls. I already have.
I din't bring in math equations to this discussion...............You did..............and the burden of proof is on you to prove math equations...........

Yet I'm supposed to do research to legitimize your side of the equation to challenge numbers you never posted.

Don't think so.
If you wish to try as disprove what I said, that the majority of Americans now support gay marriage, then do so. It will do you good to read the polls and realize that this dog no longer hunts.
 
Mr. Paint............

I have read polls that America wants all men to wear Panty hose............

Disprove me.............I have read the polls and you are obligated to disprove my information.......If you fail to do so then I obviously am right.

:bang3:
 
Check the numbers.............LOL

In the Liberal State of California they passed that marriage to be between a man and a woman..............The Courts rejected it..................

Now a court has stated that the states DO HAVE THE RIGHT to make this judgement................FORCING A SCOTUS ACTION...........

And the will of the people in California had stated that they openly rejected same sex marriage..............In one of the most Liberal States in this country..............

If this was placed as an Amendment to the Constitution in America the Gay movement would lose.
Your opinion is noted, but the actual math says otherwise.
No math has been put forward.............What is this imaginary math you keep talking about..........I haven't seen a single math equation put forward on this thread............Perhaps the fuzzy math is in your head.
The math is on you. Go read the polls. I already have.
I din't bring in math equations to this discussion...............You did..............and the burden of proof is on you to prove math equations...........

Yet I'm supposed to do research to legitimize your side of the equation to challenge numbers you never posted.

Don't think so.
If you wish to try as disprove what I said, that the majority of Americans now support gay marriage, then do so. It will do you good to read the polls and realize that this dog no longer hunts.
You have not pushed forward anything to disprove..............and since when are polls the defining act in law.

I could start a poll on this board and only ask people I want to vote and justify that people here think you are a loser..................In other words a polled 10 people that think Paint is a loon and they agreed that he is a loon and therefore it is proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Paint is a lunatic......................

The polls say so.........

and why should I place so much confidence in polls that are usually skewed to the sector applying them.
 
The People don't have the right to decide what THIS NATION ACCEPTS OR REJECTS.
That depends very much on what is being decided. It's a not a blanket policy.
That applies to a very narrow band of issues. This isnt one of them.
Oh but it is, which is why gay marriage is now legal in most of the country. Soon enough, all of the country.
The 6th Circuit seems to disagree.
Yes, I noticed that, but they are wrong and that will be fixed soon enough.
Because you, great legal scholar, says so.
LOL!
 
Mr. Paint............

I have read polls that America wants all men to wear Panty hose............

Disprove me.............I have read the polls and you are obligated to disprove my information.......If you fail to do so then I obviously am right.

:bang3:
I know the polling. Your turn.
Negative.........that discussion is over. Polls are not laws..............and they can be biased based on the site...........and you have provided nothing to even do math on.

I'm done discussing imaginary polls with you...............
 

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