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Do you think the governing officials in California have a working understanding of the lessons from Atlas Shrugged?
Do you think Republicans have a working understanding or the lessons from Lord of the Rings?
How might that understanding encourage businesses to locate in a particular locale?
cali. was a wide open till oh, the mid 80's, then they started to ratchet things up. The co. I used to work for had an early footprint in silicon valley. Corp. HQ's, manufacturing sites etc. Slowly but surely the state started grinding the reg's, taxes etc.to say nothing of the epa.
One quick story-
One of my jobs was permitting our water and air purification processes for bay air air quality management board. It became almost Orwellian.
we had a manuf. site, 2 acres, we made equip. using some lead and other constituents that can be toxic or are toxic and dangerous IF left unabated. We were very careful, for years we had our permits redone every 4 years, during that time we took samples all according to their regs. The samples came back negative for levels breaching our agreement.
A day came where-in we created a new process and we were going to build a new site closer to another site for collaboration purposes etc. so we put the site up for sale.
When you dismantle processes for site like this you have inspections by everyone, local auth. epa, fire dept. etc etc. to so as to clear the title and ensure you are handing off a site minus any danger etc.
Well turns out after taking the building down, they took ground samples and told us we had a dangerous level of seepage ala a constituent we never used. wtf right?
Turns out the previous owners decades before had used this stuff but thy were long gone and it now became our problem. Forget that for now.
heres thing, cali auth. told us what they wanted us to do, the epa told us another, apparently they could not agree and we had 2 sets of regs we had to follow that were in fact contradictory, cali wanted us to treat the stuff on site and render it inert, the epa said truck it away to a treatment fac. and landfill. we were talking over 300.000 cubic feet of dirt....Cali. says no, don't move it and take a chance on psreading any risk or danger ( which as a envior. guy I totally agree with).
If we didn't satisfy these folks we could not sell,also, we could not wind back the clock, treat it as cali asked render the stuff inert and build anything for ourselves to just move forward,we were stuck. 4 years, lawyers, hearings with the epa in DC, the state auth. in Sacramento.
So, 4 years and over 20 millions dollars later, it just sits there tarped over.
the co. still pays property tax zoned for manufacturing, we still pay for a permit because they would not clear the other permit because we cannot treat as the state asks because the epa says not truck it all away which would cost another 5-8 millions dollars just to get the dirt our of there and treated, then find the dirt to fill it in and all that requires.
The co. built the new plant they were going to here in the valley, intead, in Oregon, they closed the collaboration facility, moved it to Oregon as well. The Co. ( who were pioneers in silicon valley) have NO manufacturing foot print left in cali. period, 5,000 jobs in 5 years, gone. good jobs too, 80-90k a year.
and there ya go, you'd have to be nuts to do anything here.
Do you think the governing officials in California have a working understanding of the lessons from Atlas Shrugged?
Wow lets see
Out of control state deficit
Education system in shambles
Out of control Taxs
Infrastructure in dire need of repair
Out of control Environmentalist
Democrats in control everything
Doesnt sound anything Ive ever heard of no idea why a company would want to move .oh wait
Makes sense. Why would a Business want to operate in California? The Socialist/Progressive nutters destroyed Business opportunities a long time ago out there. The Takers are beginning to outnumber the Producers in California. They're rapidly becoming a real Third World mess. It's sad.
"Many organizations and companies provide reasons why companies leave California. Below are some of the findings, updated in light of recent studies and reports.
#10 Reason (New!) Unprecedented Energy Costs:
#9 Severe Tax Treatment:
#8 Worst Regulatory Burden:
#7 Dreadful Legal Treatment:
#6 Most Expensive Business Locations:
#5 Provable Savings Elsewhere:
#4 Downright Unfriendly:
#3 Uncontrollable Spending:
#2 Excessively Adversarial:
#1 The Outpouring of Poor Rankings Continues: "
So why is it so damned impossible for some of those among us to get a grasp on the concept that if these "no-nos" are mandated coast-to-coast that America will go down the drain as well?
If they would just drill offshore of CA that would fix everything.
CA has been a land of dreams for decades. Not very well rooted in reality. The California bubble had to burst soooner or later.
I remember when CA invested more resources into education than imprisonment. They were leaders in many areas.
Sadly, times change. Many Californians are dumbfucks.
We still spend an enormous amount of money on education - but much of it goes to the futile attempt of mainstreaming special ed kids, administration, and pensions.
Do you think the governing officials in California have a working understanding of the lessons from Atlas Shrugged?
Do you think Republicans have a working understanding or the lessons from Lord of the Rings?
We still spend an enormous amount of money on education - but much of it goes to the futile attempt of mainstreaming special ed kids, administration, and pensions.
I absolutely agree with you. However, educators didn't cause CA mess.
Actually, they contributed to it.
I see the usual whining from the right - 'it's always their fault.'
Check this guy out, interesting and see cspan for video if you want to learn and not whine.
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Actually, they contributed to it.
How did educators cause the "Great Recession"?
CA has been a land of dreams for decades. Not very well rooted in reality. The California bubble had to burst soooner or later.
That's b'loney.
CA has vast natural resources, and once was a place of a great deal of opportunity.
The problem is that the parasites have bled out the state. That is the fault of the parasites.
Actually, they contributed to it.
How did educators cause the "Great Recession"?
Don't play that shitty bait and switch type of game.
You said educators didn't cause California's "mess". I said they contributed to it.
Anybody who benefited from the Public Employee Shakedown of the state has contributed to "the mess:.
