3 things liberals can't lie about

Unemployment when Bush left office 7.2
Unemployment now. 8.3
Gasoline prices when Bush left office. 1.78
Gasoline prices now. 3.76
Debt when Bush left office. 10 trillion
Debt now. 15 trillion.

Spin away.
Since a half-truth is a whole lie, obviously only CON$erviNutzis are allowed to lie about those 3 things.

UE was 7.2 and SKYROCKETING UPWARD when Bush left in disgrace.
UE is 8.3 and DROPPING DOWN now.
Gas peaked over $4 and oil over $140 during Bush, it is lower now and even lower in real dollars. If you remember, during the Bush years CON$ were telling us that gas was a bargain, see Stossel below!
The GOP debt was over $10 trillion with carryover expenses of interest on the GOP debt, 2 wars started by Bush, and a medicare part D started by Bush and not funded at all. If you back out the GOP's carryover expenses, Obama's budget is breaking even. The GOP owns the $15 trillion in debt.

Gasoline Prices in Perspective [Mackinac Center]
Gasoline Prices in Perspective


By Christina M. Kohn, published on July 21, 2006

"Gasoline is a bargain," writes ABC News Correspondent John Stossel in his new book, "Myths, Lies and Downright Stupidity." Stossel contends that by failing to account for inflation and by disregarding federal and state taxes, the media and politicians exaggerate the real price of gas. He claims that this distorted perspective has frightened consumers into believing gas is more expensive than many of the products they purchase daily. To illustrate his point, Stossel showed that on a per-gallon basis, bottled water sold for three times the price of gas at a gas station.
A trip to the local Meijer confirms Stossel’s observations. At this grocery store, shoppers can purchase a 42-ounce bottle of Michigan’s famous ice cream topping, Sanders Hot Fudge, for $11.99. That translates to $36.54 for a gallon of fudge, which is 12 times the price of gasoline (Meijer was selling gas for $3.04 per gallon at that time). A gallon of Starbucks Frappuccino coffee beverage sells for about $17 per gallon. French’s mustard costs $10.88 per gallon. A gallon of A.1. Steak Sauce would cost $66.30!
Skeptics could argue that these products are not necessities. But many everyday items are also more expensive per gallon than gasoline. Colgate Cavity Protection toothpaste, at $2.24 a tube, costs $34.97 a gallon. Banana Boat sunscreen with a sun protection factor of 15, a summer essential, costs $103.52 per gallon. Visine eye drops cost about $1,000 per gallon, or 327 times the price of gasoline!
Those who still aren’t impressed might contend that brand name products tend to be more expensive than their generic counterparts. While generic items do produce a savings, Meijer brand mustard costs $7.92 a gallon, still three times the price of gasoline, and a gallon of Meijer brand eye drops would sell for $816.64.
Granted, most individuals do not consume as much toothpaste or steak sauce in one day as they do gasoline. But after accounting for inflation, gas today is no more expensive than it was in 1981 when President Reagan deregulated energy markets. The point is that politicians and the media are successfully convincing consumers that gasoline prices are exorbitantly high — creating a false sense of crisis — and that government can provide the remedy.
 
Unemployment when Bush left office 7.2
Unemployment now. 8.3
Gasoline prices when Bush left office. 1.78
Gasoline prices now. 3.76
Debt when Bush left office. 10 trillion
Debt now. 15 trillion.

Spin away.
Tooooooooooooooooooo easy.....​

January 13, 2008

"The recession-deniers were muzzled by a horrendous last two weeks of December, and the gloom-and-doomers are now out in force. Their key arguments:

* Plummeting housing will now drag down the rest of the economy.

*The "bad debt" problem is not just "sub-prime" folks who should never have have taken out mortgages in the first place. It includes credit card debt, "high quality" mortgages, car loans, and other leverage that have recently become a consumer way of life.

*Pressure on consumers is leading to a reduction in consumer spending (70% of economy), which, in turn, will lead to a reduction in spending by companies that sell stuff to consumers.

*The question now is not "will there be a recession?" but "how bad will it get?"

*The most optimistic forecasts in a NYT gloom-and-doom round-up are for three crappy quarters, regardless of what the Fed does. Less optimistic forecasts suggest that we are, well, screwed.

After blowing the last downturn, we've been worried this one since last summer (see below). We also suspect that, given the importance of housing to the economy and debt to consumer spending, the recession will be deeper and more prolonged than people think."



Check & Mate!!
 
It appears to me that gas prices peaked at the end of Bush II, and started to drop when it became apparent that the Republicans were going to lose big time. When it looked like the country might recover from the Bush years, gas prices started to climb.

ch.gaschart
 
Unemployment when Bush left office 7.2
Unemployment now. 8.3
Gasoline prices when Bush left office. 1.78
Gasoline prices now. 3.76
Debt when Bush left office. 10 trillion
Debt now. 15 trillion.

Spin away.


Unemployment when Bush took office 4.2
Unemployment when Bush left office 7.2


Does the President control the price of gasoline?

Yeah, and not all Republicans were happy with Bush, either.
Yeah....right....NOW!!!

Funny how that works-out.​
 
It appears to me that gas prices peaked at the end of Bush II, and started to drop when it became apparent that the Republicans were going to lose big time. When it looked like the country might recover from the Bush years, gas prices started to climb.

ch.gaschart
What I read elsewhere and, admittedly, cannot verify because I don't have the facts nor talent to crunch the numbers, is this: When the housing bubble burst, investors panicked and held their money. When they felt more comfortable with investing again, they chose oil commodities rather than real estate, which drove and continues to push up the price of oil. This explains why prices trend upwards even though demand is trending downwards.
 
I mean, what affects the price of oil?
- Supply: How much oil is there on the world market?
- Demand: How strong is demand from the world and locally?
- MidEast Instability: How bad are things where most oil is taken from?
- Perceived Changes: Do people believe (real or not) that changes are coming to supply, demand, or stability?

The Keystone pipeline and renewed drilling in the gulf, as far as I've read, will not make much of a dent in the world supply, especially since OPEC can simply rachet down production. This would likely have an effecty on perceived changes. No one knows how much.

Under Bush II, stability changed drastically thanks to the Iraqi War. This pushed up gas prices despite more drilling.

Under Obama, the 2-month moritorium on gulf drilling had a negligable effect on prices. However, continued instability in Iran and increased speculation has led to price increases.
 
Unemployment when Bush left office 7.2
Unemployment now. 8.3
Gasoline prices when Bush left office. 1.78
Gasoline prices now. 3.76
Debt when Bush left office. 10 trillion
Debt now. 15 trillion.

Spin away.

I believe unemployment was at 7.8 but why quibble. The economy was shedding 750,000 jobs a month when Bush finally left office. It is now gaining 250,000 jobs a month. The Obama economy is making a million jobs a month more than Bush left him with

Gas dropped momentarily to $1.78 and then quickly shot up again. Lest we forget, Bush gave us our first $4.00 a gallon gas

Bush debt was $11.3 trillion and he was given a budget surplus when he started. Bush doubled his debt. Obamas budget has to compensate for two Bush wars, an unfunded Medicare Part D and a $2 trillion Bush tax cut

Bush added at most 6 trillion to the debt in 8 YEARS. Obama will add 5 in 4. Explain that away.
Seeing-as-how Lil' Dumbya's tax-cuts were never intended to.....

....generate revenue$....

.....Republicans had some OTHER "magical" way o' paying-off his credit-card, without borrowing the buck$????

:eusa_eh:

Yeah...."great! idea!! You gave the rest-of-us a Presidunce you could "have a beer, with"....and, that little prick SPLIT (out the back-door)....and, left the tab for everyone-else.

Any chance you stupid-shits bought some "magic-beans", from him, as WELL??!!!

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Unemployment when Bush left office 7.2
Unemployment now. 8.3
Gasoline prices when Bush left office. 1.78
Gasoline prices now. 3.76
Debt when Bush left office. 10 trillion
Debt now. 15 trillion.

Spin away.

I believe unemployment was at 7.8 but why quibble. The economy was shedding 750,000 jobs a month when Bush finally left office. It is now gaining 250,000 jobs a month. The Obama economy is making a million jobs a month more than Bush left him with

Gas dropped momentarily to $1.78 and then quickly shot up again. Lest we forget, Bush gave us our first $4.00 a gallon gas

Bush debt was $11.3 trillion and he was given a budget surplus when he started. Bush doubled his debt. Obamas budget has to compensate for two Bush wars, an unfunded Medicare Part D and a $2 trillion Bush tax cut

It would be nice if conservatives could answer a simple question with some factual truth.
Why is it that the biggest deficit hawks (conservatives Republicans, mind you) like Reagan, Bush 41, and Bush 43 constantly ran HUGE budget deficts, thereby running up the national debt?
 
The economy shed 533,000 jobs in November, according to a government report Friday - bringing the year's total job losses to 1.9 million.

November had the largest monthly job loss total since December 1974.

November: Most jobs lost since 1974 - Dec. 5, 2008


History of gas prices in 2008.

10/19/2008 3.4990
11/04/2008 2.2390
11/24/2008 1.8790
12/16/2008 1.7490
12/19/2008 1.9990
12/24/2008 1.7490
12/29/2008 1.5890
 
Unemployment when Bush left office 7.2
Unemployment now. 8.3
Gasoline prices when Bush left office. 1.78
Gasoline prices now. 3.76
Debt when Bush left office. 10 trillion
Debt now. 15 trillion.

Spin away.


Unemployment when Bush took office 4.2
Unemployment when Bush left office 7.2

US Debt January 20, 2001: $5,727,776,738,304.64
US Debt January 20, 2009: $10,626,877,048,913.08


Republican Party: Cut taxes and spend, spend, spend
Democratic Party: Raise taxes and spend, spend, spend

.....To cover REPUBLICAN-DEBT!!!!

Are you Dead-O-Heads/Teabaggers (purposely) TRYING to look stupid.....or, is it some kind o' inbred genetic-defect??

:eusa_eh:

It's no WONDER the high-roller$/1%ers are trying to get Romney into the Oval Office!!

After watching you suckers fall for the FRAT-BOY'S hu$tle, they figure....with Romney....they won't (even) BREAK A SWEAT, fuckin' you, next!!

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Unemployment when Bush left office 7.2
Unemployment now. 8.3
Gasoline prices when Bush left office. 1.78
Gasoline prices now. 3.76
Debt when Bush left office. 10 trillion
Debt now. 15 trillion.

Spin away.

GDP is at an all-time high
Corporate profits are at an all-time high
Interest rates are at an all-time low
Taxes are their lowest since WW2

Spin away.

Yeah, debt to GDP is over 100%. Congratu-fucking-lations on your special presidency.

Please!

You stupid shits allowed THIS to happen.....


Natl_Debt_Chart.jpg


.....and, now, you wanna blame someone ELSE for your fuck-up??!!!

:eusa_eh:

Whatever HAPPENED to:

Accepting Responsibility For Your OWN Actions????
 
US Debt January 20, 2001: $5,727,776,738,304.64
US Debt January 20, 2009: $10,626,877,048,913.08


Republican Party: Cut taxes and spend, spend, spend
Democratic Party: Raise taxes and spend, spend, spend

I kinda like the way David Mamet put it in "The Secret Knowledge,"...


1.”In the election of 2008, environmental, social and financial change were the concerns of both parties. The Right held that a return to first principles would arrest or re-channel this momentum toward bankruptcy and its attendant geopolitical dangers. It suggested fiscal conservatism, greater and more efficient exploitation of natural resources, lower taxes, a strong military. The Left’s view was to suggest that Change was good in itself- the problem need not be dealt with mechanically (by acts whose historical efficacy was demonstrable) but could be addressed psychologically, by identifying “change itself” as a solution.”

a. How to deal with this problematic change? The Conservative answer was increased exploitation of the exploitable and conservation of needless expenditure- in effect, sound business practice. The Liberal answer…cessation of the same.

b. Each side was interested in Justice: Conservatives held that it was best served by strict adherence to the rule of law; Liberals, by an increase in the granting of Rights.

Wow a playwright?
how appropriate coming from you

A playwright, also called a dramatist and dramaturge, is a person who...

:lol:

Oh the drama!

But, he's correct, isn't he.
 
Oh, i can explain it. But I see absolutely no point in doing so if you think it is irrelevant. But please, by all means, let us all see your explanation.

You want me to explain why it doesn't matter? While you refuse to explain why it does?

You never took a Logic class did you?

Is that you rdodge from explaining why debt to GDP @ over 100% doesn't matters?

Ok ok. Are you ready? Here we go.

Debt over 100% of GDP does not matter because there are no negative consequences.

There we go! I'm sure you disagree, so I await your reasons why you disagree.
 
Unemployment when Bush left office 7.2
Unemployment now. 8.3
Gasoline prices when Bush left office. 1.78
Gasoline prices now. 3.76
Debt when Bush left office. 10 trillion
Debt now. 15 trillion.

Spin away.


Unemployment when Bush took office 4.2
Unemployment when Bush left office 7.2

US Debt January 20, 2001: $5,727,776,738,304.64
US Debt January 20, 2009: $10,626,877,048,913.08


Republican Party: Cut taxes and spend, spend, spend
Democratic Party: Raise taxes and spend, spend, spend
Obama added the cost of the two wars that Bush started and Medicare D to the budget. That takes care of the increase.
 
I believe unemployment was at 7.8 but why quibble. The economy was shedding 750,000 jobs a month when Bush finally left office. It is now gaining 250,000 jobs a month. The Obama economy is making a million jobs a month more than Bush left him with

Gas dropped momentarily to $1.78 and then quickly shot up again. Lest we forget, Bush gave us our first $4.00 a gallon gas

Bush debt was $11.3 trillion and he was given a budget surplus when he started. Bush doubled his debt. Obamas budget has to compensate for two Bush wars, an unfunded Medicare Part D and a $2 trillion Bush tax cut

Bush added at most 6 trillion to the debt in 8 YEARS. Obama will add 5 in 4. Explain that away. The left insisted twice under Bush that gas prices WERE his fault, now suddenly the President has no control over gas prices.

As for jobs lets look at Congress, what was the unemployment rate in 2006 and when did it start to climb?

I'll explain.

When you are facing an eminent depression you have to pump money into the economy SOON.
....For OBVIOUS REASONS!!!!

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"Vice President Dick Cheney has spent most of the past year in hiding, ostensibly from terrorists, but increasingly it seems obvious that it is Congress, the Securities and Exchange Commission, the media and the public he fears."
 
Unemployment when Bush left office 7.2
Unemployment now. 8.3
Gasoline prices when Bush left office. 1.78
Gasoline prices now. 3.76
Debt when Bush left office. 10 trillion
Debt now. 15 trillion.

Spin away.

OK, I won't lie. Every president is stuck with the budget of the previous president for the first ten months he's in office. On the last day of Clinton's last budget, unemployment was 5.3%. On the last day of Bush's last budget, unemployment was 10.1%.

Hmmm, funny how that works out.

Now, explain all that "cheap gas" we were going to get from Iraq.
Well.....things didn't exactly work-out the way Lil' Dumbya had planned them. He kinda figured the Taliban would fall for his big, bad cowboy routine!!!


"....the oil and gas reserves of Central Asia have been controlled by Russia. The Bush government wanted to change all that."

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"Ah kin do it, Daddy!!!"
 
Unemployment when Bush left office 7.2
Unemployment now. 8.3
Gasoline prices when Bush left office. 1.78
Gasoline prices now. 3.76
Debt when Bush left office. 10 trillion
Debt now. 15 trillion.

Spin away.


Unemployment when Bush took office 4.2
Unemployment when Bush left office 7.2


Does the President control the price of gasoline?




if he doesn't then explain to us why you loonatics on da left hammered President George Bush about gas prices? we shall wait.
 

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