2nd debate over/under thread

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    I'll bet Obama mentions "47%" 5,700 times
     
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    Which will come in UNDER the number of references he makes to himself ("I," "me," "mine," etc.) and roughly equal to the number of times he claims to have killed Osama bin Laden.

    All will pale in comparison, however, to "uh," "ahh," "uhhhm," and "as I was saying."
     
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    I bet he says HE didn't tell biden about the security requests in Libya cause Biden would have screwed it all up. HE SCREWED IT UP ANYWAY! Lol!
     
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    It's a town hall.

    It will be a challenge for Romney.

    I no longer worry.

    If Romney loses...he's still done well enough to pull senate seats in the direction of the GOP.

    I'd like to see the country get fixed, but our conflicted society can't seem to bring itself to give Obama a congress that is as whacked out and foolish as he is.

    If he wins, he'll be a lame duck for four years.
     
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    I don't know about that. It makes a good Attack ad, Not as good in a debate, where Romney will be able to explain what he meant. Besides I don't think It works great for Obama to Highlight the fact that 47% of Americans pay no Federal Income Tax at all. It does not fit into his "fair share" argument at all.
     
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    President Obama is a transcendent figure, whether you love him or hate him.

    The nature of his story and ascendency to the White House conjures up the notion of what's at the heart of the dream of America.

    He can only win if he goes big, not small. He went small in the first debate, and that's where he loses.

    If he wins tomorrow night it will be because he successfully answered those individual questions from regular Americans in a way that describes what he inherited, what he did to stop it, what is happening now and what we need to do moving forward.

    I expect him to use the word "forward" a lot. I would like for him to use the word "change" a lot, as in, "We finally passed health care for nearly all Americans after almost 50 years of doing nothing. That matters. That was the change that you voted for. Middle class folks are no longer responsible for bailing out huge corporations because of the laws we passed, and that's more change we wanted to see."

    Regular folks ask these guys the questions tomorrow night, and I expect the the guy who understands them best will do better with them than the one who panders to them while hiding his real agenda.
     
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    There is nothing "transcendent" about the incumbent.

    He is a plodding liberal/socialist-inclined party hack with just a tad more willingness to try to actually "go there" than many of his more more insipid Democrat predecessors.

    Thankfully, he cannot defend his Administration's "record." He will flop around and Mitt is not going to let him off any hook very easily.

    The incumbent is toast.
     
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    I bet you are right. It's all he's got. The subject of Libya should be the main topic and Obama will have to get creative to keep the spotlight off his dismal record and the outright lies he told to the American people. I do hope the moderator doesn't allow him to interrupt Romney and do the same crap Biden did. I saw the headline stating that Obama intends to be more feisty. I wonder if that means he will even address the real issues surrounding his Libya lies. That is at the heart of the matter right now. He lied and neglected to do his sworn duty. Only some fast talking (bullshit) and some fancy footwork will get him through that. I just hope Romney is ready to throw facts out there that Obama has yet to explain.

    As for the 47%, the only thing Romney may be wrong about is the actual percentage of people who are dyed-in-the-wool government dependents. I hope like hell that number is wrong, though fear the real number isn't exactly small. With welfare rolls doubled since Obama took office, it is a concern and we all know people aren't likely to bite the hand that feeds them. The able-bodied who are using their EBT cards for totally unnecessary items, like cigarettes, tattoos and gambling, proves that they are taking too much from the workers. It may be good for Romney to get into all this and fully explain his position. Those who are takers may not like it, but the ones who are being taken for a ride might be interested to know how badly we are being swindled.

    At tomorrow night's debate, however, I think the focus has to be on foreign policy, but the last debate will cover everything.
     
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    Obama's going to hurt Romney in this town hall debate. By this time, Obama has all the answers about Libya and is armed by the ambassador's father and his wish that Romney stop using his son's death as a political football.

    Try to watch a little of Obama's townhall with McCain and you'll see what I mean about Obama having the ability to engage an audience. Romney won't know what hit him.
     
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    The flip Mitt Romney will be the one flopping. The flip flopping will come up, btw.
     

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