22 US soldiers killed in two days

[CurveLight]

Offering evidence to Sheik Omar who knew in advance that 9/11 was going to happen and how because he is Osama's father-in-law? What would be the point? It was a stalling tactic on the part of the Taliban and nothing more.

That totally ignores the facts as we know them. The Taliban made a publicly international offer for evidence and the Bush admin brushed it off. Why? They knew many Americans are made up of fear-soaked Nationalistic fibers who would never have the courage to demand something as simple as evidence.

 

[CurveLight]

There's no point in arguing with the 9/11 truthers, Mr. Stucker. You'd have better luck convincing a Baptist that God is dead...

I had no idea that Curvelight is a troother. That explains a lot.

Curvedlight hides it well, to maintain his credibility, but still reveals himself in threads like these.

I haven't tried to hide anything. If anyone had asked I would have said straight up I don't know who was responsible for 9/11.

 

[CurveLight]

There's no point in arguing with the 9/11 truthers, Mr. Stucker. You'd have better luck convincing a Baptist that God is dead...

I had no idea that Curvelight is a troother. That explains a lot.

What does it explain? That I have no problem admitting I don't know who was responsible? Let's look at the two most basic options:

1. Say I don't know what happened.

2. Believe the Bush admin.

Who in the hell in their right mind would feel comfortable about believing that group? The really sick part here is trying to disparage people who say they don't know what happened. All that does is show the collective insecurity and fragility of those gullible enough to believe the Bush Admin.

 

[Contumacious]

I had no idea that Curvelight is a troother. That explains a lot.

Curvedlight hides it well, to maintain his credibility, but still reveals himself in threads like these.

I haven't tried to hide anything. If anyone had asked I would have said straight up I don't know who was responsible for 9/11.

The Neocrazies:

January 26, 1998

The Honorable William J. Clinton
President of the United States
Washington, DC

Dear Mr. President:

We are writing you because we are convinced that current American policy toward Iraq is not succeeding, and that we may soon face a threat in the Middle East more serious than any we have known since the end of the Cold War. In your upcoming State of the Union Address, you have an opportunity to chart a clear and determined course for meeting this threat. We urge you to seize that opportunity, and to enunciate a new strategy that would secure the interests of the U.S. and our friends and allies around the world. That strategy should aim, above all, at the removal of Saddam Hussein’s regime from power. We stand ready to offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor.

The policy of “containment” of Saddam Hussein has been steadily eroding over the past several months. As recent events have demonstrated, we can no longer depend on our partners in the Gulf War coalition to continue to uphold the sanctions or to punish Saddam when he blocks or evades UN inspections. Our ability to ensure that Saddam Hussein is not producing weapons of mass destruction, therefore, has substantially diminished. Even if full inspections were eventually to resume, which now seems highly unlikely, experience has shown that it is difficult if not impossible to monitor Iraq’s chemical and biological weapons production. The lengthy period during which the inspectors will have been unable to enter many Iraqi facilities has made it even less likely that they will be able to uncover all of Saddam’s secrets. As a result, in the not-too-distant future we will be unable to determine with any reasonable level of confidence whether Iraq does or does not possess such weapons.

Such uncertainty will, by itself, have a seriously destabilizing effect on the entire Middle East. It hardly needs to be added that if Saddam does acquire the capability to deliver weapons of mass destruction, as he is almost certain to do if we continue along the present course, the safety of American troops in the region, of our friends and allies like Israel and the moderate Arab states, and a significant portion of the world’s supply of oil will all be put at hazard. As you have rightly declared, Mr. President, the security of the world in the first part of the 21st century will be determined largely by how we handle this threat.

Given the magnitude of the threat, the current policy, which depends for its success upon the steadfastness of our coalition partners and upon the cooperation of Saddam Hussein, is dangerously inadequate. The only acceptable strategy is one that eliminates the possibility that Iraq will be able to use or threaten to use weapons of mass destruction. In the near term, this means a willingness to undertake military action as diplomacy is clearly failing. In the long term, it means removing Saddam Hussein and his regime from power. That now needs to become the aim of American foreign policy.

We urge you to articulate this aim, and to turn your Administration's attention to implementing a strategy for removing Saddam's regime from power. This will require a full complement of diplomatic, political and military efforts. Although we are fully aware of the dangers and difficulties in implementing this policy, we believe the dangers of failing to do so are far greater. We believe the U.S. has the authority under existing UN resolutions to take the necessary steps, including military steps, to protect our vital interests in the Gulf. In any case, American policy cannot continue to be crippled by a misguided insistence on unanimity in the UN Security Council.

We urge you to act decisively. If you act now to end the threat of weapons of mass destruction against the U.S. or its allies, you will be acting in the most fundamental national security interests of the country. If we accept a course of weakness and drift, we put our interests and our future at risk.

Sincerely,

Elliott Abrams Richard L. Armitage William J. Bennett

Jeffrey Bergner John Bolton Paula Dobriansky

Francis Fukuyama Robert Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad

William Kristol Richard Perle Peter W. Rodman

Donald Rumsfeld William Schneider, Jr. Vin Weber

Paul Wolfowitz R. James Woolsey Robert B. Zoellick

.

 

[CurveLight]

Historians will look at those mediums of information and scratch their heads at how we had a government who publicly announced plans for colonialism, followed through on those plans and somehow convinced the general public our military was used to defend "freedom." We have dirty diaper quality nationalists who are aware but dismiss it as "theories" and this is nothing new but not everyone nor the majority fall into that category. Maybe we're just collectively so selfish we don't care as long as we can watch sports and figure out how to get a variety of cheeses into a squirt can?

 

[Freeman]

Taliban was created and financed by US, for that reason they are always not listed as terrorist organisation.
they are just extremists, but they never committed massacres nor target civilians like the bloody coalition and nato!

in late 90s, alqaeda was created by CIA to terrorize ME citizens and find motives to invade those countries.

Are you really that ignorant of events in Afghanistan. How can you sit there and type such absolute bollocks on the page and expect anyone with a shred of knowledge to swallow your platitudes of utter crap!

The Taliban never committed massacres against civilians!??? Where the fuck did you pull that bullshit from? You need to spend some time researching the Taliban before you speak out of that arsehole of yours. Here, to set you on your way from utter ignorance within which the remnants of your mind is trapped, is an article from the Sunday Times in 1998:

No mercy: men, women and children were murdered in their homes as Taliban gunmen took over Mazar-e-Sharif

The Sunday Times , Nov.1,1998
By Michael Sheridan
THE first detailed eyewitness accounts of the massacre of up to 8,000 people by Islamic fundamentalist Taliban fighters who ran amok in the northern Afghan city of Mazar-e-Sharif last August have been passed to western governments.

Testimony compiled by international observers and handed to western diplomats in Pakistan reveals that hundreds of people were packed into containers where they suffocated when the doors were locked in the searing midday heat. Men, women and children were shot in their homes and on the street, and hospital patients were murdered in their beds.

The massacre occurred when, during an offensive aimed at seizing full control of Afghanistan for the first time, Mazar-e-Sharif was overrun by the Taliban, who have imposed the world's most extreme interpretation of Islam, barring women from education, banning television and forcing men to wear beards.

Statements made available to The Sunday Times describe a campaign of slaughter directed against a Shia Muslim minority, the Hazara. The evidence, regarded by experienced aid officials as "highly credible", paints a ghastly picture of butchery and rape as the Taliban shot and cut the throats of Hazaras.

The claims are supported by the influential American group Human Rights Watch, which is due to reveal its own findings on the massacre today and will call on the United Nations to investigate what it describes as "one of the single worst examples of killings of civilians in Afghanistan's 20-year war".

How the Taliban slaughtered thousands of people

Read the rest of the article and educate yourself. This is just ONE example of how the Taliban treat the civilian population. Who do you think are STILL killing women and children in large numbers in both Afghanistan and Pakistan. Who do you think is responsible for the recent car bomb atrocities? The fucking Taliban, you idiot!

I could link you to example after example demonstrating Taliban massacres against civilians, but I will not put more effort in for a turd like you. Go educate yourself before shitting on the pages of USMB!

hoax, wake up!
nor US nor Karzai govt consider talibans as terrorists

US does not consider Taliban terrorists | The Agonist
Karzai offers to meet Taliban leader

the creator of the first cell of taliban is the supremacist Zbigniew Brzezinski in Pakistan

 

[Freeman]

NEWS

7 U.S. soldiers killed in Afghanistan - Afghanistan- msnbc.com

 

[CurveLight]

Taliban was created and financed by US, for that reason they are always not listed as terrorist organisation.
they are just extremists, but they never committed massacres nor target civilians like the bloody coalition and nato!

in late 90s, alqaeda was created by CIA to terrorize ME citizens and find motives to invade those countries.

Are you really that ignorant of events in Afghanistan. How can you sit there and type such absolute bollocks on the page and expect anyone with a shred of knowledge to swallow your platitudes of utter crap!

The Taliban never committed massacres against civilians!??? Where the fuck did you pull that bullshit from? You need to spend some time researching the Taliban before you speak out of that arsehole of yours. Here, to set you on your way from utter ignorance within which the remnants of your mind is trapped, is an article from the Sunday Times in 1998:

No mercy: men, women and children were murdered in their homes as Taliban gunmen took over Mazar-e-Sharif

The Sunday Times , Nov.1,1998
By Michael Sheridan
THE first detailed eyewitness accounts of the massacre of up to 8,000 people by Islamic fundamentalist Taliban fighters who ran amok in the northern Afghan city of Mazar-e-Sharif last August have been passed to western governments.

Testimony compiled by international observers and handed to western diplomats in Pakistan reveals that hundreds of people were packed into containers where they suffocated when the doors were locked in the searing midday heat. Men, women and children were shot in their homes and on the street, and hospital patients were murdered in their beds.

The massacre occurred when, during an offensive aimed at seizing full control of Afghanistan for the first time, Mazar-e-Sharif was overrun by the Taliban, who have imposed the world's most extreme interpretation of Islam, barring women from education, banning television and forcing men to wear beards.

Statements made available to The Sunday Times describe a campaign of slaughter directed against a Shia Muslim minority, the Hazara. The evidence, regarded by experienced aid officials as "highly credible", paints a ghastly picture of butchery and rape as the Taliban shot and cut the throats of Hazaras.

The claims are supported by the influential American group Human Rights Watch, which is due to reveal its own findings on the massacre today and will call on the United Nations to investigate what it describes as "one of the single worst examples of killings of civilians in Afghanistan's 20-year war".

How the Taliban slaughtered thousands of people

Read the rest of the article and educate yourself. This is just ONE example of how the Taliban treat the civilian population. Who do you think are STILL killing women and children in large numbers in both Afghanistan and Pakistan. Who do you think is responsible for the recent car bomb atrocities? The fucking Taliban, you idiot!

I could link you to example after example demonstrating Taliban massacres against civilians, but I will not put more effort in for a turd like you. Go educate yourself before shitting on the pages of USMB!

hoax, wake up!
nor US nor Karzai govt consider talibans as terrorists

US does not consider Taliban terrorists | The Agonist
Karzai offers to meet Taliban leader

the creator of the first cell of taliban is the supremacist Zbigniew Brzezinski in Pakistan

Thanks for the info! It is interesting the Taliban have never been listed as terrorists.