2016 analysis and 2020 outcome.

[Ray9]

What happened in 2016? A US president was elected on a platform of reduced taxation on citizens which took power away from government. That same president put our relationship with the People’s Republic of China front and center and challenged the notion that our society was benefiting from that relationship. That president rejuvenated America’s economy and began to call for less dependence on China, a country with over a billion citizens that was sapping our economic strength and putting us at a disadvantageous standpoint.

Oddly, the new president did not get the White House in a conventional sense. He commandeered one of the political parties and used it to appeal to millions of Americans who were disenchanted with a permanent centralized government that operated in its own interest not those of the average citizen. The previous administration had tried unsuccessfully to shackle every American to government plantation slavery by forcing them into a healthcare system controlled exclusively by bureaucrats that had failed in every corner of the world.

The people went to the polls and voted in the new president to steer America backs to its roots as an independent sovereign nation. This angered the government that had been corroding America’s character and plotting with global allies to sell out America’s middle class. The People’s Republic of China has no middle class. It has a master/slave relationship with its citizens with the government in charge in a system much like the Affordable Care Act would have subjugated Americans to. When it failed the Chinese were watching.

The corrupted US government went into overdrive to protect its plan to sell out America concocting all kinds of propagandized false flag attacks against the new president accusing him of treason with enemies. Many were fooled but it did not work as planned and the president’s economy was making it all but lead pipe cinch that he would be re-elected.

Then a new dangerous virus emerged from China in an area where laboratory experiments to create weaponized superbugs had been underway for many years. Cui Bono? (who profits?). America was the last thing standing in the way of world domination. Now America’s economy is stalled as well as the economies of the entire world. It was a biological attack to bring the world and America to its knees.

That new president had to be stopped. You do not need to be a genius to figure that out.

 

[rightwinger]

The People’s Republic of China has no middle class. It has a master/slave relationship with its citizens

China has a strong middle class and a highly educated workforce. They are major consumers of goods and services in the world

 

[gipper]

Nice conspiracy theory Raymond.

 

[rightwinger]

Trump started an unnecessary trade war with China and our allies

It has been a disaster. He has destabilized the world and strengthened Chinas and Russia’s standing on the world stage.

In a recent Pew Poll of global powers, Xi was trusted more than Trump

 

[Ray9]

The People’s Republic of China has no middle class. It has a master/slave relationship with its citizens

China has a strong middle class and a highly educated workforce. They are major consumers of goods and services in the world

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/26/how-many-americans-qualify-as-middle-class.html

That would mean that China has over 500,000,000 middle class citizens. Ridiculous.

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/China/United-States/Cost-of-living

 

[rightwinger]

The People’s Republic of China has no middle class. It has a master/slave relationship with its citizens

China has a strong middle class and a highly educated workforce. They are major consumers of goods and services in the world

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/26/how-many-americans-qualify-as-middle-class.html

That would mean that China has over 500,000,000 middle class citizens. Ridiculous.

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/China/United-States/Cost-of-living

How well-off is China's middle class?

China’s economic development has lifted hundreds of millions of Chinese out of poverty and resulted in a burgeoning middle class.

chinapower.csis.org

Over the past several decades, China’s economic development has lifted hundreds of millions of Chinese out of poverty and resulted in a burgeoning middle class. Middle class households typically have enough income to satisfy their primary needs – food, clothing, and shelter – with some disposable income left over for additional consumption and savings. In 2002, China’s middle class was only four percent of its population. A decade later, this number had climbed to 31 percent, constituting over 420 million people

 

[MisterBeale]

 

[harmonica]

Trump started an unnecessary trade war with China and our allies

It has been a disaster. He has destabilized the world and strengthened Chinas and Russia’s standing on the world stage.

In a recent Pew Poll of global powers, Xi was trusted more than Trump

......should've been done decades ago--we are getting screwed by China...I guess you like taking it in the a$$!!!!!!!!!????

 

[harmonica]

The People’s Republic of China has no middle class. It has a master/slave relationship with its citizens

China has a strong middle class and a highly educated workforce. They are major consumers of goods and services in the world

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/26/how-many-americans-qualify-as-middle-class.html

That would mean that China has over 500,000,000 middle class citizens. Ridiculous.

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/China/United-States/Cost-of-living

How well-off is China's middle class?

China’s economic development has lifted hundreds of millions of Chinese out of poverty and resulted in a burgeoning middle class.

chinapower.csis.org

Over the past several decades, China’s economic development has lifted hundreds of millions of Chinese out of poverty and resulted in a burgeoning middle class. Middle class households typically have enough income to satisfy their primary needs – food, clothing, and shelter – with some disposable income left over for additional consumption and savings. In 2002, China’s middle class was only four percent of its population. A decade later, this number had climbed to 31 percent, constituting over 420 million people

hahhahahah from: Chinapower!!!!!!!! hahahah not biased there

 

[rightwinger]

The People’s Republic of China has no middle class. It has a master/slave relationship with its citizens

China has a strong middle class and a highly educated workforce. They are major consumers of goods and services in the world

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/26/how-many-americans-qualify-as-middle-class.html

That would mean that China has over 500,000,000 middle class citizens. Ridiculous.

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/China/United-States/Cost-of-living

How well-off is China's middle class?

China’s economic development has lifted hundreds of millions of Chinese out of poverty and resulted in a burgeoning middle class.

chinapower.csis.org

Over the past several decades, China’s economic development has lifted hundreds of millions of Chinese out of poverty and resulted in a burgeoning middle class. Middle class households typically have enough income to satisfy their primary needs – food, clothing, and shelter – with some disposable income left over for additional consumption and savings. In 2002, China’s middle class was only four percent of its population. A decade later, this number had climbed to 31 percent, constituting over 420 million people

hahhahahah from: Chinapower!!!!!!!! hahahah not biased there

You are welcome to provide another source that shows China has no middle class

 

[harmonica]

The People’s Republic of China has no middle class. It has a master/slave relationship with its citizens

China has a strong middle class and a highly educated workforce. They are major consumers of goods and services in the world

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/26/how-many-americans-qualify-as-middle-class.html

That would mean that China has over 500,000,000 middle class citizens. Ridiculous.

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/China/United-States/Cost-of-living

How well-off is China's middle class?

China’s economic development has lifted hundreds of millions of Chinese out of poverty and resulted in a burgeoning middle class.

chinapower.csis.org

Over the past several decades, China’s economic development has lifted hundreds of millions of Chinese out of poverty and resulted in a burgeoning middle class. Middle class households typically have enough income to satisfy their primary needs – food, clothing, and shelter – with some disposable income left over for additional consumption and savings. In 2002, China’s middle class was only four percent of its population. A decade later, this number had climbed to 31 percent, constituting over 420 million people

..and they don't take care of their citizens:

In China, the water you drink is as dangerous as the air you breathe | Deng Tingting

Nearly half the country has missed its five-year water quality targets, Greenpeace research shows – so what can be done about water pollution?

www.theguardian.com

 

[rightwinger]

The People’s Republic of China has no middle class. It has a master/slave relationship with its citizens

China has a strong middle class and a highly educated workforce. They are major consumers of goods and services in the world

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/26/how-many-americans-qualify-as-middle-class.html

That would mean that China has over 500,000,000 middle class citizens. Ridiculous.

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/China/United-States/Cost-of-living

How well-off is China's middle class?

China’s economic development has lifted hundreds of millions of Chinese out of poverty and resulted in a burgeoning middle class.

chinapower.csis.org

Over the past several decades, China’s economic development has lifted hundreds of millions of Chinese out of poverty and resulted in a burgeoning middle class. Middle class households typically have enough income to satisfy their primary needs – food, clothing, and shelter – with some disposable income left over for additional consumption and savings. In 2002, China’s middle class was only four percent of its population. A decade later, this number had climbed to 31 percent, constituting over 420 million people

..and they don't take care of their citizens:

In China, the water you drink is as dangerous as the air you breathe | Deng Tingting

Nearly half the country has missed its five-year water quality targets, Greenpeace research shows – so what can be done about water pollution?

www.theguardian.com

Air quality is bad too

Doesnt mean that the middle class in China has not exploded

 

[Moonglow]

The People’s Republic of China has no middle class. It has a master/slave relationship with its citizens

China has a strong middle class and a highly educated workforce. They are major consumers of goods and services in the world

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/26/how-many-americans-qualify-as-middle-class.html

That would mean that China has over 500,000,000 middle class citizens. Ridiculous.

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/China/United-States/Cost-of-living

How well-off is China's middle class?

China’s economic development has lifted hundreds of millions of Chinese out of poverty and resulted in a burgeoning middle class.

chinapower.csis.org

Over the past several decades, China’s economic development has lifted hundreds of millions of Chinese out of poverty and resulted in a burgeoning middle class. Middle class households typically have enough income to satisfy their primary needs – food, clothing, and shelter – with some disposable income left over for additional consumption and savings. In 2002, China’s middle class was only four percent of its population. A decade later, this number had climbed to 31 percent, constituting over 420 million people

..and they don't take care of their citizens:

In China, the water you drink is as dangerous as the air you breathe | Deng Tingting

Nearly half the country has missed its five-year water quality targets, Greenpeace research shows – so what can be done about water pollution?

www.theguardian.com

Ah, so it's like Michigan in China.

 

[kyzr]

[

Informative video.
China went from free and open to a police state.
More government control is not the direction we want the US to go toward.

 

[pyetro]

What happened in 2016? A US president was elected on a platform of reduced taxation on citizens which took power away from government. That same president put our relationship with the People’s Republic of China front and center and challenged the notion that our society was benefiting from that relationship. That president rejuvenated America’s economy and began to call for less dependence on China, a country with over a billion citizens that was sapping our economic strength and putting us at a disadvantageous standpoint.

Oddly, the new president did not get the White House in a conventional sense. He commandeered one of the political parties and used it to appeal to millions of Americans who were disenchanted with a permanent centralized government that operated in its own interest not those of the average citizen. The previous administration had tried unsuccessfully to shackle every American to government plantation slavery by forcing them into a healthcare system controlled exclusively by bureaucrats that had failed in every corner of the world.

The people went to the polls and voted in the new president to steer America backs to its roots as an independent sovereign nation. This angered the government that had been corroding America’s character and plotting with global allies to sell out America’s middle class. The People’s Republic of China has no middle class. It has a master/slave relationship with its citizens with the government in charge in a system much like the Affordable Care Act would have subjugated Americans to. When it failed the Chinese were watching.

The corrupted US government went into overdrive to protect its plan to sell out America concocting all kinds of propagandized false flag attacks against the new president accusing him of treason with enemies. Many were fooled but it did not work as planned and the president’s economy was making it all but lead pipe cinch that he would be re-elected.

Then a new dangerous virus emerged from China in an area where laboratory experiments to create weaponized superbugs had been underway for many years. Cui Bono? (who profits?). America was the last thing standing in the way of world domination. Now America’s economy is stalled as well as the economies of the entire world. It was a biological attack to bring the world and America to its knees.

That new president had to be stopped. You do not need to be a genius to figure that out.

This is rubber room material.
But the moderators here are Trump lovers so it won't happen.

 

[kyzr]

Trump started an unnecessary trade war with China and our allies

It has been a disaster. He has destabilized the world and strengthened Chinas and Russia’s standing on the world stage.

In a recent Pew Poll of global powers, Xi was trusted more than Trump

17% to 19% isn't much of a vote of confidence for either Trump or Xi. It wasn't "trust" but "confidence".

Negative views of both U.S. and China abound across advanced economies amid COVID-19

Few in 14 advanced countries have confidence in either Xi or Trump, and many are critical of how both countries have handled the coronavirus outbreak.

www.pewresearch.org

"Across 14 countries surveyed, including the U.S., a median of 19% say they have confidence in President Xi, and a median of 17% say the same of President Donald Trump."

 

[kyzr]

What happened in 2016? A US president was elected on a platform of reduced taxation on citizens which took power away from government. That same president put our relationship with the People’s Republic of China front and center and challenged the notion that our society was benefiting from that relationship. That president rejuvenated America’s economy and began to call for less dependence on China, a country with over a billion citizens that was sapping our economic strength and putting us at a disadvantageous standpoint.

Oddly, the new president did not get the White House in a conventional sense. He commandeered one of the political parties and used it to appeal to millions of Americans who were disenchanted with a permanent centralized government that operated in its own interest not those of the average citizen. The previous administration had tried unsuccessfully to shackle every American to government plantation slavery by forcing them into a healthcare system controlled exclusively by bureaucrats that had failed in every corner of the world.

The people went to the polls and voted in the new president to steer America backs to its roots as an independent sovereign nation. This angered the government that had been corroding America’s character and plotting with global allies to sell out America’s middle class. The People’s Republic of China has no middle class. It has a master/slave relationship with its citizens with the government in charge in a system much like the Affordable Care Act would have subjugated Americans to. When it failed the Chinese were watching.

The corrupted US government went into overdrive to protect its plan to sell out America concocting all kinds of propagandized false flag attacks against the new president accusing him of treason with enemies. Many were fooled but it did not work as planned and the president’s economy was making it all but lead pipe cinch that he would be re-elected.

Then a new dangerous virus emerged from China in an area where laboratory experiments to create weaponized superbugs had been underway for many years. Cui Bono? (who profits?). America was the last thing standing in the way of world domination. Now America’s economy is stalled as well as the economies of the entire world. It was a biological attack to bring the world and America to its knees.

That new president had to be stopped. You do not need to be a genius to figure that out.

This is rubber room material.
But the moderators here are Trump lovers so it won't happen.

Another useless TDS post with no rationale' to debate.

 

[harmonica]

The People’s Republic of China has no middle class. It has a master/slave relationship with its citizens

China has a strong middle class and a highly educated workforce. They are major consumers of goods and services in the world

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/26/how-many-americans-qualify-as-middle-class.html

That would mean that China has over 500,000,000 middle class citizens. Ridiculous.

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/China/United-States/Cost-of-living

How well-off is China's middle class?

China’s economic development has lifted hundreds of millions of Chinese out of poverty and resulted in a burgeoning middle class.

chinapower.csis.org

Over the past several decades, China’s economic development has lifted hundreds of millions of Chinese out of poverty and resulted in a burgeoning middle class. Middle class households typically have enough income to satisfy their primary needs – food, clothing, and shelter – with some disposable income left over for additional consumption and savings. In 2002, China’s middle class was only four percent of its population. A decade later, this number had climbed to 31 percent, constituting over 420 million people

..and they don't take care of their citizens:

In China, the water you drink is as dangerous as the air you breathe | Deng Tingting

Nearly half the country has missed its five-year water quality targets, Greenpeace research shows – so what can be done about water pollution?

www.theguardian.com

Ah, so it's like Michigan in China.

no, nothing like that--in numbers and pollution

 

[Moonglow]

 

[Gdjjr]

Anecdotally: I wonder about the hate for others- it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
Gov't's start wars- not citizens. And no matter what Country you *defend* you're still being "patriotic"- in the US, whose original intent, was to "secure our Liberty" it's sad to see so many succumb to propaganda to make their neighbor their enemy- and I ain't talking about China, per se-

I've always found Oriental people hospitable and pretty witty once the language barrier was over come.
Oh, I also like Mexicans- for pretty much the same reasons.

Addressing the anecdotally: Our very own Politicalchic claims she had to learn English after she moved here- I'd say she's done a pretty good job of it- and she can be quite witty- I also used to work on a race car that was kept in a shop next door to a Flooring Distributor- the owner traveled to China frequently and was very impressed with their education system, which, as he relayed it, readied students for employment in whatever field they liked and tested well for. (there were some red flags for me but I'll not go into that here)

Being a local school board member he was helping create that avenue into the local school district, so he wasn't just blowing smoke- oh, BTW, he was adamant about being a Christian-
I've been to Hong Kong (in the mid 60's as a sailor in the US Navy)- and while I was amazed at the number of people cooking and apparently living, on the streets, it was actually a pretty neat place with some great bargains on items we like- clothing, jewelry, etc- I didn't care much for the cuisine as I'm pretty much a meat and potato's guy- I saw the movie Bonnie and Clyde there in a nice theater- I bought a hand made uniform, a guitar and a pair of hand made cowboy boots too- all very reasonably priced- at the time, IMS, the exchange rate was 6 Hong Kong Dollars for 1 US Dollar- of course that was when the US used "Silver Certificates" as it's currency- the military paid in Monopoly Money, which could be exchanged as US Currency- funny how that worked, huh-

Anyway, the animosity people in the US have for others is all brought about because they're told they are our enemy, when in reality, the gov't's are enemies, not the citizens- we say; yeah, but their gov't tells them what they can do and believe- that's communist. So, we, the intellectuals we are, let the media (and obvious arm of our gov't) tell us who our enemies are